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Date: 14 Jan 2007 20:31:27
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Subject: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
gene in Oregon
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Date: 22 Jan 2007 07:01:42
From: DanKMTB@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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On Jan 21, 12:37 am, "zeke" <supp...@dltsoftware.com > wrote:
> I can't ride below freezing (32 degrees F). My fingers can't take it.
> I haven't found a pair of gloves that will prevent my fingers from
> freezing after about an hour.
>
> ----------------------------
> Bike: Trek 5500 Project One
> View my training log:http://dltsoftware.com/efitness/login?userID=demo&password=demo
A quick visit to your local motorcycle shop (and a ~$50US hit to your
wallet) can straighten that right out. I've got a pair of HJC
motorcycle/snowmobile gloves that were intended for sub-zero temps &
high speeds. In the past couple years Massachusetts & New Hampshire
have not gotten cold enough for even mild discomfort with these gloves.
If there's any gripe at all, it's that around 30F or warmer my hands
start sweating way too fast.
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Date: 23 Jan 2007 08:26:57
From: Pat Lamb
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
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> On Jan 21, 12:37 am, "zeke" <supp...@dltsoftware.com> wrote:
>> I can't ride below freezing (32 degrees F). My fingers can't take it.
>> I haven't found a pair of gloves that will prevent my fingers from
>> freezing after about an hour.
>
> A quick visit to your local motorcycle shop (and a ~$50US hit to your
> wallet) can straighten that right out. I've got a pair of HJC
> motorcycle/snowmobile gloves that were intended for sub-zero temps &
> high speeds. In the past couple years Massachusetts & New Hampshire
> have not gotten cold enough for even mild discomfort with these gloves.
> If there's any gripe at all, it's that around 30F or warmer my hands
> start sweating way too fast.
Lobster gloves (if your LBS carries them) are like that. I have two
pairs; the Nashbar is good down to 20F, and I only know the PI are good
down to 14F, as that's as cold as it's gotten here since I got them.
But above freezing, either makes my hands sweat, and then traps the sweat.
Pat
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Date: 20 Jan 2007 21:37:51
From: zeke
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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I can't ride below freezing (32 degrees F). My fingers can't take it.
I haven't found a pair of gloves that will prevent my fingers from
freezing after about an hour.
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Bike: Trek 5500 Project One
View my training log:
http://dltsoftware.com/efitness/login?userID=demo&password=demo
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Date: 20 Jan 2007 19:25:29
From: Brian Huntley
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Tom Keats wrote:
> The Jet Stream whips around like a busted headsaw
> in a saw mill. Some people think its movements are
> controlled by H.A.A.R.P. And some people think it's
> capricious shifts are ascribable to Climate Change.
The Hungarian-American Association of Retired People?
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Date: 20 Jan 2007 10:55:18
From: chadseelye@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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This summer I was in Frace riding in the Alps. We started in La Grave
68 degrees went over the Telegraph and then onto the Galibie. When we
were going up the Galib. temperatures dropped to 32 degrees, 25 mph
wind gust and hail! Aboslutly one of the coldest tougest days I spend
on the bike. However, it makes a great war story to tell ;)
On Jan 14, 11:31 pm, KGWe...@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
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Date: 19 Jan 2007 23:29:10
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <1169275840.436831.98240@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"Michie" <mieshie@comcast.net > writes:
>
>> I live in Norway now and I just got back from a 4 hour ride in sunny 8C
>> (46F). Go figure.
>
> It's not really how far north or above the arctic circle you are, but
> rather where the jet stream happens to lie.
This is true.
In the Northern Hemisphere, the north side of the Jet Stream
is where the cold weather is. The south side is where the
warmer weather is. And right underneath it is the soggy
Pacific Northwest.
> That's why places in
> nothern europe above the actic circle are many times warmer than the
> nothern midwest of the U.S.
The Jet Stream whips around like a busted headsaw
in a saw mill. Some people think its movements are
controlled by H.A.A.R.P. And some people think it's
capricious shifts are ascribable to Climate Change.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
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Date: 19 Jan 2007 22:50:40
From: Michie
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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> I live in Norway now and I just got back from a 4 hour ride in sunny 8C
> (46F). Go figure.
It's not really how far north or above the arctic circle you are, but
rather where the jet stream happens to lie. That's why places in
nothern europe above the actic circle are many times warmer than the
nothern midwest of the U.S.
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 21:06:09
From: Ron Wallenfang
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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I did my 21 mile commute on Feb. 18, 2006 with temperatures starting
out at -15F, warming to -10 by the time I got to downtown Milwaukee.
that's the coldest day we've had in recent years. Years ago, I did a
few miles in -24 F.
KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
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Date: 19 Jan 2007 14:46:10
From: H M Leary
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <1169183169.257049.325880@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com >,
"Ron Wallenfang" <rwallenfang@wi.rr.com > wrote:
> I did my 21 mile commute on Feb. 18, 2006 with temperatures starting
> out at -15F, warming to -10 by the time I got to downtown Milwaukee.
> that's the coldest day we've had in recent years. Years ago, I did a
> few miles in -24 F.
>
snip
Thats great, Ron.
Now we know what is wrong with ya....:)
HAND
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 03:23:27
From: Marz
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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nash wrote:
> here in the tropics<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Where? :)
Down here in Trinidad and Tobago, a glorious 10 degrees north of the
equator.
laters,
z
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 23:14:40
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <1s8tq2p59j69jegk0q4uq1d0961lb05d5g@4ax.com >,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com > writes:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:31:27 -0800, KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
>
>>Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
>>studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
>>in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>>
> Once, -13 F at night on a wide, well lit snow-free Winnipeg highway.
>
> I froze my junk. Hurt bad thawing out.
>
> An outlaw biker friend laughed at the look on my face and gave me a
> piece of sheepskin to stuff in my shorts for future jaunts.
>
> It may have been colder for some of those other rides but they
> weren't so excruciatingly memorable.
Ow.
I just got back home (check the time of this posting.)
I headed out into beautiful snow-melting rain, to
do a little shopping up at 39th & Cambie.
The temp is just hovering around freezing.
On the return trip, the rain decided to be snow
instead, with my helmet visor actually funneling &
scooping snowflakes into my eyes and driving them
under my eyelids, while I was bombing down 39th. Ugh!
Getting one's package frozen is pretty bad.
But eyeballs are directly connected to the brain
(which is also where absessed tooth roots and
inflamed sinuses always aim at.) The brain
is such a sissy wimp.
I found myself sucking it up and growling and
howling (well, sort of singing The Stones'
"Moonlight Mile[*]") at the elements like some sort
of wild predatory beast as I plowed through the
tempest, adamantly not veering my gaze even an
arc-second to the left or right. 'Cuz that would
have certainly invited a real eye-full of snow.
My fingers feel like two 5-packs of frozen wieners.
I can barely open what I went shopping for.
Heaven help me should I have to grasp any sort of
slippery, chrome-plated, hand-held pinching device.
Let alone pass it along to the next person without
fumbling it.
Ice gets ya. Cold gets ya. Wind gets ya. Darkness
gets ya. Humidity gets ya. Airborne precip gets ya.
Winter sux.
Anyways, sometimes helmet visors are good for
keeping precip out of our eyes. But sometimes
they devilishly work against us.
cheers,
Tom
[*] sort of a Joey "Shithead" Keithley/DOA rendition.
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 17:07:33
From:
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Bill Baka wrote:
> Lately it's been the weather in California. 20's in the AM and high 40's
> in the PM. Very 'un-California' like. No ice, but colder than snot for
> this state. As a kid in Illinois I did it sometimes, but there the ice
> and snow were limiting factors for a kid with no spikes.
It's been teaching me daily what a narrow range of temperatures my
riding clothes work in. I've been riding home from palo alto to san
jose at one am. I like riding in the cold but haven't figured out how
to do it yet without bringing a whole freaking backpack full of extra
clothes.
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 15:21:48
From: ryan
Subject: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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earlier this week I rode in mid-upper twenties not very long (1.7)
miles just a trip to school
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 14:41:21
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:31:27 -0800, KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
>Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
>studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
>in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
Once, -13 F at night on a wide, well lit snow-free Winnipeg highway.
I froze my junk. Hurt bad thawing out.
An outlaw biker friend laughed at the look on my face and gave me a
piece of sheepskin to stuff in my shorts for future jaunts.
It may have been colder for some of those other rides but they
weren't so excruciatingly memorable.
--
zk
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Date: 18 Jan 2007 11:36:20
From: fluffy bunny
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <1s8tq2p59j69jegk0q4uq1d0961lb05d5g@4ax.com >,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:31:27 -0800, KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
>
> >Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> >studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> >in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
> >
> Once, -13 F at night on a wide, well lit snow-free Winnipeg highway.
>
> I froze my junk. Hurt bad thawing out.
>
> An outlaw biker friend laughed at the look on my face and gave me a
> piece of sheepskin to stuff in my shorts for future jaunts.
>
> It may have been colder for some of those other rides but they
> weren't so excruciatingly memorable.
That happened to me yesterday. Wardrobe malfunction. badness!
I've ridden in much colder but yesterday was an unanticipated first.
.max
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 10:42:57
From: Marz
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
Sorry, no snow or ice (except in the drinks) here in the tropics. I
think it may have dipped to 75f the other day, brrrrrrr.
laters,
z
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 19:44:34
From: nash
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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here in the tropics<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Where? :)
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 23:15:51
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:31:27 -0800, KGWebby wrote:
Last winter I rode to a bike club meeting at around 7PM, on the coldest
day of the year. It was probably in the teens but really windy, so the
wind chill was supposedly -7F.
It wasn't bad riding there because it was mostly downhill and a pretty
quick trip. But coming home, my hands were freezing because the
handlebars were so cold, having been outside for a couple of hours. The
heat got sucked right out of my hands. I didn't realize what a difference
there could be, between a warm bike and a cold one!
Matt O.
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 18:06:04
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Matt O'Toole wrote:
> quick trip. But coming home, my hands were freezing because the
> handlebars were so cold, having been outside for a couple of hours. The
> heat got sucked right out of my hands. I didn't realize what a difference
> there could be, between a warm bike and a cold one!
I have both my winter bike's bars completely wrapped in multiple
layers of handlebar tape.
Both bikes have bar ends of one kind or another and not having to
put my gloved hands on bare metal makes a huge difference in how
fast the hands chill down.
SMH
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 17:01:40
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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-32F many years ago before global warming became a pop word.
My daily comute was just 3 miles and that was about all I could stand
in that weather. Wore so much clothing I could hardly move.
brrrr Rick.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 17:30:02
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <29761-45AB039F-691@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net >, KGWebby@webtv.net
says...
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
+5F last winter.
Coldest this season was this afternoon, at 18F or so (sun was setting, so temp
was starting to drop). With the residual snow and ice from the weekend's storm
(the plows didn't do the greatest job, and the sub-freezing high impeded
melting), today's ride was more treacherous than I cared for once I left the
main streets in my 'hood. I only lost traction completely once, but I managed
to extract from the toe clips fast enough to slide to a standing stop.
It's supposed to hit -1F tonight, but without studded tires, I'll wait until
things have a chance to melt more. I don't have to go anywhere until Thursday,
anyway (homeowners' association meeting).
--
__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 17:59:21
From:
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
Much too long ago to remember the exact temperature, but for a couple
of years I had a newspaper route. I got out there at 4:00 a.m. seven days
a week, and rode about five miles on a sheriff's auction special
single-speed, coaster-brake bike, no night equipment but a rear reflector.
The papers (+/- 85 of them) sometimes weighed two or three pounds each,
and I carried them in the traditional front-and-back canvas bags.
Sometimes in about three shifts when they got immense.
I had none of what we now would consider cycling gear, just a plain,
department store coat and a pair of cheap cotton gloves.
Did this in all weather, including heavy snow. Took more falls than I
care to remember when the roads were slick, which is why nowadays I stow
the bikes under those conditions.
And those were also the days when the carrier had to go out and grovel
to the customers for the exorbitant $2.50 monthly fee. Had to pay for the
papers before I could keep any money, of course. Some of those deadbeats
would go two or three months before they had that princely sum on hand to
give to me.
Looking back, I am amazed that I didn't give up bicycles out of furious
disgust. Happiest day of my life was the day I quit that job.
Bill
__o
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 09:22:18
From: ::dom::
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Last July (winter where I am) I cycled at around 5am and it was
"freezing" 15ºC :D :D :D... nearly had to wear a long sleeve jersey
--
::dom:
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 18:01:15
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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A couple winters ago I commuted to work in about
-2F one morning. Probably have done some slightly
colder runs but I don't know the temps. I know the
chill factors have been in the negative teens at
times.
Winter finally made an appearance locally this
morning. Rode in at 9AM with 8F temp.
Took a little adjustment as its been steadily in
the 40-50's most of December and January to date.
SMH
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 18:21:03
From:
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
It's not the cold that gets ya. it's the ice.
R
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 18:47:44
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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On 2007-01-16, r15757@aol.com <r15757@aol.com > wrote:
> KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
>> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
>> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
>> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
> It's not the cold that gets ya. it's the ice.
And the dark. And the combination of dark and ice, which makes it very
easy to wipe out. Which is No Fun, especially if you land in slush and
have to finish out your ride soaking wet. And then work 12 hours, put on
wet clothes and ride back home in the dark and ice.
When it gets like that I hang it up until spring.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 15:55:49
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
>
>
>
>
Lately it's been the weather in California. 20's in the AM and high 40's
in the PM. Very 'un-California' like. No ice, but colder than snot for
this state. As a kid in Illinois I did it sometimes, but there the ice
and snow were limiting factors for a kid with no spikes.
Bill Baka
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 06:51:50
From: cmcanulty
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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-30F in quette Michigan on shores Lake Superior. At that temp the
roads are hard as a rock and it feels like summer pavement. But the
toes and hands hurt no matter what you wear. I stay toasty in a down
parka that has most of the feathers leaked out from 30 years use and am
almost too warm except for the hands and feet. It's fun in a screwed up
sort of way.
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 15:59:35
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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cmcanulty wrote:
> -30F in quette Michigan on shores Lake Superior. At that temp the
> roads are hard as a rock and it feels like summer pavement. But the
> toes and hands hurt no matter what you wear. I stay toasty in a down
> parka that has most of the feathers leaked out from 30 years use and am
> almost too warm except for the hands and feet. It's fun in a screwed up
> sort of way.
>
How far? I have found out from this California cold that even at 30F my
body can be sweating from riding and my hands are cold even with gloves
and my feet never really warm up that much either. At -30F it could only
be worse.
Bill Baka
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 06:47:54
From: DanKMTB@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
I spent the winter of 2004/2005 living on a boat in Boston Harbor with
my only transportation being the T & my bikes. We had that record
"cold snap" that year, shutting down schools and such. I believe it was
single digit temps, lows in the early negatives, and they calculated
-20F with the wind. I wasn't logging any 100K joyrides, but I did
still ride every day for fun, food & supplies. The only time I used
the T for my 85 mile round trip work commute. I swear it must have
been 10 degrees colder on the docks and in the navy yard without all
the buildings, cars & people surrounding. It may not seem cold to a
someone raised in a really cold climate, but it seems plenty cold to a
New Englander like myself.
Short Answer: somewhere around 0.
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 14:21:45
From: mark
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
>
A few winters ago, I found myself cycling to and/or from work in
temperatures of -20 Fahrenheit. Not something I'd care to do too often,
but certainly no worse than scraping ice off of car windows and getting
a cold car started and warmed up at those temperatures.
I should point out that the relative humidity here in Colorado tends to
be on the low side, which makes low temperatures distinctly more tolerable.
k
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 06:19:29
From:
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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just another biker wrote:
> Below zero, the insides of my glasses ice up immediatly preventing any
> thoughts of outdoor riding. A Colorado winter trip confirmed that.
> Temperatures above that just require different clothing options. Wind
> can be a factor.
>
> Tom in Illinois
My coldest bike experience is also from Chicago. -5F (-20C). Up along
LSD with a cold wet wind off the lake. Brr!
I live in Norway now and I just got back from a 4 hour ride in sunny 8C
(46F). Go figure.
Joseph
>
> KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> > Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> > studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> > in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
> >
> > gene in Oregon
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 17:25:39
From: nash
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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I live in Norway now and I just got back from a 4 hour ride in sunny 8C
(46F). Go figure.
<<<<<<
Did BC lose our weather to Norway? Give it back when you are done with it.
thanks
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Date: 17 Jan 2007 20:52:59
From: recycled-one
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
news:nOOqh.657786$1T2.302286@pd7urf2no...
>I live in Norway now and I just got back from a 4 hour ride in sunny 8C
> (46F). Go figure.
> <<<<<<
>
> Did BC lose our weather to Norway? Give it back when you are done with
> it.
>
> thanks
-20C to -30C in winters past. Never long rides, usually 20 minute commutes.
Southern Ontario hasn't really had winter this season until a few days ago.
But a mix of freezing rain, ice pellets, wet and fluffy snow made riding
interesting again. The lows have been in the -12C -15C range. Riding though
that gravelly slippery chop on top of slick asphalt is definitely an
acquired skill. I found myself 'remembering' to use leg control more to keep
balance. It feels like a distinct skill set.
Riding a bike in snow is like... riding a bike. You never forget.
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 03:50:30
From: just another biker
Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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Below zero, the insides of my glasses ice up immediatly preventing any
thoughts of outdoor riding. A Colorado winter trip confirmed that.
Temperatures above that just require different clothing options. Wind
can be a factor.
Tom in Illinois
KGWebby@webtv.net wrote:
> Well I've never rode in the snow, and that's only because I don't have
> studded tires for my Breezer. For me, the coldest temp that I've rode
> in was somewhere in the low twenties. And that was cold enough for me.
>
> gene in Oregon
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Date: 15 Jan 2007 20:44:44
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Subject: Re: What's the coldest weather you've rode in?
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In article <1168861830.824705.243400@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com >,
tocampbell@gmail.com says...
> Below zero, the insides of my glasses ice up immediatly preventing any
> thoughts of outdoor riding. A Colorado winter trip confirmed that.
I've only ridden that cold once, and I wouldn't recommend it either.
But wearing XC ski goggles over my glasses did at least keep them from
icing up. Unlike my nose hairs. Don't like nostril icicles!
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josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/ >
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html >
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