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Date: 04 Aug 2007 14:29:12
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Which carbon fork is better
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Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
1" threaded, 190mm
Choices:
Nashbar: Brand new
Mizuno: New
Kestrel (EMS?): Used
Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
TIA,
-Bob
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 13:43:40
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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On Aug 4, 12:29 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEtx.rr.com >
wrote:
> Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
>
> 1" threaded, 190mm
>
> Choices:
>
> Nashbar: Brand new
>
> Mizuno: New
>
> Kestrel (EMS?): Used
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
>
> TIA,
>
> -Bob
If you're going carbon, definitely get new. With a used one, you don't
know where it's been, so to speak - its crash history, etc. The only
way to know it's never been traumatized it to get a new one, and not
loan out your bike.
Another one available is a Kinesis for sale by Wheel & Sprocket on
ebay.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2lyrxj
It's about 100-150 grams lighter than Nashbar's. He's got it for $199
OBO. On his "Make Offer" auctions, you can usually offer him about 60%
of the Buy It Now price, and he'll either take it or make you a
counteroffer. You could probably get it for about $125, I'd guess.
I've had great service from them and have bought from them many times.
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 15:49:03
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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In article <1186433020.597720.5790@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com >,
hank@wirtznet.net says...
> If you're going carbon, definitely get new. With a used one, you don't
> know where it's been, so to speak - its crash history, etc. The only
> way to know it's never been traumatized it to get a new one, and not
> loan out your bike.
Excellent point. Someone else made a similar point and it made a lot of
sense!
>
> Another one available is a Kinesis for sale by Wheel & Sprocket on
> ebay.
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2lyrxj
>
> It's about 100-150 grams lighter than Nashbar's.
Any thoughts/comments on the Nashbar fork?
Looks decent. I have an older steel bike, so 100 grams isn't going to
make a lot of difference.
Plus it's very inexpensive.
Thanks for the info!
-Bob
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 11:31:22
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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On Aug 5, 12:29 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
> > FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
> > $50.
>
> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
> before modern materials came on the scene?
So long as we're making great leaps based on *nothing*, shall we
assume you are saying a used plastic fork is preferable to a new steel
fork?
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:1186284992.629824.88200@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Ozark Bicycle
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEtx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
>
> >> > 1" threaded, 190mm
>
> >> > Choices:
>
> >> > Nashbar: Brand new
>
> >> > Mizuno: New
>
> >> > Kestrel (EMS?): Used
>
> >> > Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
>
> >> > TIA,
>
> >> > -Bob
>
> >> Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?
>
> > Ditto.
>
> > FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
> > $50.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 15:04:35
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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On Aug 5, 12:29 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
> > FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
> > $50.
>
> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
> before modern materials came on the scene?
>
Hi Mike, please tell me, in as detailed of a manner as you need to,
how I'm acting like nothing ever broke before modern materials came on
the scene. I'm guessing that you're having a conversation outside of
this thread--perhaps in your own head, no?
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 13:02:49
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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> Hi Mike, please tell me, in as detailed of a manner as you need to,
> how I'm acting like nothing ever broke before modern materials came on
> the scene. I'm guessing that you're having a conversation outside of
> this thread--perhaps in your own head, no?
Inference from your prior remarks in this thread.
Besides, if you want me to be as "detailed of a manner" as possible, I
didn't say *you*, did I? I was speaking a bit more globally, and less
precise than you would wish. My apologies if you are not of the opinion you
believe I believe something other than what your beliefs actually are.
Clear enough?
(What, me, cynical/sarcastic/just plain silly at times? Must be somebody
else at the keyboard...)
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 03:36:32
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEtx.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
>
> > 1" threaded, 190mm
>
> > Choices:
>
> > Nashbar: Brand new
>
> > Mizuno: New
>
> > Kestrel (EMS?): Used
>
> > Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
>
> > TIA,
>
> > -Bob
>
> Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?
Ditto.
FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
$50.
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 05:29:50
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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> FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
> $50.
Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
before modern materials came on the scene?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1186284992.629824.88200@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Ozark Bicycle
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEtx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
>>
>> > 1" threaded, 190mm
>>
>> > Choices:
>>
>> > Nashbar: Brand new
>>
>> > Mizuno: New
>>
>> > Kestrel (EMS?): Used
>>
>> > Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
>>
>> > TIA,
>>
>> > -Bob
>>
>> Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?
>
> Ditto.
>
> FWIW, you can get a very handsome chrome steel Tange 1" fork for under
> $50.
>
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 11:57:31
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever broke
> before modern materials came on the scene?
>
>
Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
an aluminum fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.
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Date: 07 Aug 2007 01:54:02
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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>> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
>> broke before modern materials came on the scene?
>>
>
> Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
> used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
> an aluminum fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.
Ick. I wouldn't trust either one. I wouldn't trust used in general, although
I would agree that it's easier to inspect a steel fork for evidence of a
crash than other materials. But in all cases forks have lifespans. The
theoretical lifespan for a carbon fork is actually much greater than that of
steel or aluminum, but that's for one that hasn't been crashed and was built
properly (and not so stupidly-light that it's on the edge of what's possible
to build).
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 21:00:21
From: Tom \Johnny Sunset\ Sherman
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
>>> broke before modern materials came on the scene?
>>>
>> Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
>> used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
>> an aluminum [alloy] fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.
>
> Ick. I wouldn't trust either one.
The aluminium alloy fork could be x-rayed, and the remaining fatigue
life predicted by the maximum flaw size.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
--
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Date: 07 Aug 2007 17:42:25
From: Leonard Migliore
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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In article <46b7c618$0$16403$88260bb3@free.teranews.com >,
"Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" <sunsetss0003@invailid.com > wrote:
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >>> Which *do* fail from time to time. Why is it we act like nothing ever
> >>> broke before modern materials came on the scene?
> >>>
> >> Mike, Let me ask you this. If you were building up a bike that needed a
> >> used fork, would you worry more about a second hand carbon fibre fork or
> >> an aluminum [alloy] fork? Maybe your answer is neither one.
> >
> > Ick. I wouldn't trust either one.
>
> The aluminium alloy fork could be x-rayed, and the remaining fatigue
> life predicted by the maximum flaw size.
>
Wouldn't that cost more than a used fork? But less than laser
thermography on a carbon one, I guess.
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 12:29:31
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Which carbon fork is better
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On Aug 4, 2:29 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEtx.rr.com > wrote:
> Looking for an inexpensive carbon fork.
>
> 1" threaded, 190mm
>
> Choices:
>
> Nashbar: Brand new
>
> Mizuno: New
>
> Kestrel (EMS?): Used
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions on these?
>
> TIA,
>
> -Bob
Any used CFRP fork is a risk. Why take the chance?
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