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Date: 05 Aug 2006 21:05:31
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Subject: drop bars, help.
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i just got a new bike. it has drop bars and i have never used them
before. i have only ridden it a few times, but whenever i get out of my
seat to climb i have issues controlling the bike. i think it might be
due to my bad form when riding mtb. any tips on where to place my hands
when climbing?
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smoothtoaster
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 22:30:44
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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In article <bvidd2tcvj824037mc1qhl4ur9143cb6rb@4ax.com >,
R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > writes:
> Keats envisions himself as:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s457h
Do run along, puppy, and quit humping my leg.
Go pull wings off of flies or something.
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 06:01:40
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:30:44 -0700, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>In article <bvidd2tcvj824037mc1qhl4ur9143cb6rb@4ax.com>,
> R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> writes:
>
>> Keats envisions himself as:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/s457h
>
>Do run along, puppy, and quit humping my leg.
>
>Go pull wings off of flies or something.
Ghandi would have never been so cruel.
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 21:31:34
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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In article <6bmdnUkTT4bfNEvZUSdV9g@ptd.net >,
"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > writes:
> How the f*ck do you unweight the rear wheel
> when you are out of the saddle, thrashing, trying to get up the freaking
> hill?
By the power of positive thinking.
It's still the same weight distributed over the bicycle over-all, as
on the flat or on a downslope, although the proportion of weight on
the front & rear wheels changes with incline. That brings up the matter
of fore/aft balance, which I think is a greatly overlooked component of
riding a bicycle.
Thinking in terms of losing weight on the rear wheel instead of putting
more weight onto the front wheel "feels" lighter, and makes climbs feel
like less of an onerous slog. It's just a psychological trick to play
on one's self.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 05:14:52
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:31:34 -0700, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>In article <6bmdnUkTT4bfNEvZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> writes:
>
>> How the f*ck do you unweight the rear wheel
>> when you are out of the saddle, thrashing, trying to get up the freaking
>> hill?
>
>By the power of positive thinking.
>
>It's still the same weight distributed over the bicycle over-all, as
>on the flat or on a downslope, although the proportion of weight on
>the front & rear wheels changes with incline. That brings up the matter
>of fore/aft balance, which I think is a greatly overlooked component of
>riding a bicycle.
>
>Thinking in terms of losing weight on the rear wheel instead of putting
>more weight onto the front wheel "feels" lighter, and makes climbs feel
>like less of an onerous slog. It's just a psychological trick to play
>on one's self.
>
>
>cheers,
> Tom
Keats envisions himself as:
http://tinyurl.com/s457h
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 21:45:22
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:59:59 -0700, Tom Keats wrote:
> [*] it seems to me that when going up slopes, a lot of
> riders concentrate on weighting the front wheel in
> order to distribute fore/aft balance, at the expense
> of [thinking in terms of] unweighting the rear wheel.
> If they'd only think about lightening their rear wheels,
> they may be able to fly up the slopes like a kite,
> as li'l ol' lightweight I do :-) :-) :-)
Did you ever stop to think that it is your light weight itself that makes
it easier for you to climb? How the f*ck do you unweight the rear wheel
when you are out of the saddle, thrashing, trying to get up the freaking
hill? And why would it be to your advantage to transfer weight to the
front wheel?
Or is this a Peter Pan thing, being able to fly because you believe you
can?
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David L. Johnson
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 17:59:59
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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In article <Xns9817AF6D73C94s321@192.160.13.20 >,
sally <sally@sally.com > writes:
> "Gooserider" <Gooserider@mouse-potato.com> wrote in
> news:p6uBg.1115$Pc.803@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
>> Yes, that must be why I didn't see any TdF riders holding the tops
>> while climbing.....
>
> Only while sitting. The OP's question was where to hold the handlebar
> while standing.
Quite.
When standing while going up an incline, the more
width grasped on the handlebar, the better control
one has. Grasping the drops, though, might make
unweighting[*] the rear wheel more difficult. So
I guess the hoods are really the optimum anchor point.
cheers,
Tom
[*] it seems to me that when going up slopes, a lot of
riders concentrate on weighting the front wheel in
order to distribute fore/aft balance, at the expense
of [thinking in terms of] unweighting the rear wheel.
If they'd only think about lightening their rear wheels,
they may be able to fly up the slopes like a kite,
as li'l ol' lightweight I do :-) :-) :-)
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 17:48:26
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 22:32:53 +0000, Gooserider wrote:
> "sally" <sally@sally.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9816D99487B06s321@192.160.13.20...
>> smoothtoaster@gmail.com wrote in news:1154837131.115943.222110
>> @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>>> any tips on where to place my hands when climbing?
>>
>> Grab the brake hoods. If you're tough, grab the drops. Definately do
>> not grab the tops of the bars.
>
> Yes, that must be why I didn't see any TdF riders holding the tops while
> climbing.....
Out of the saddle, the hoods are much better. In the saddle there is no
real reason to use one or the other. It's best to move your hand position
around.
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David L. Johnson
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 04:24:21
From: sally
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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smoothtoaster@gmail.com wrote in news:1154837131.115943.222110
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> any tips on where to place my hands when climbing?
Grab the brake hoods. If you're tough, grab the drops. Definately do
not grab the tops of the bars.
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Date: 06 Aug 2006 22:32:53
From: Gooserider
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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"sally" <sally@sally.com > wrote in message
news:Xns9816D99487B06s321@192.160.13.20...
> smoothtoaster@gmail.com wrote in news:1154837131.115943.222110
> @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>> any tips on where to place my hands when climbing?
>
> Grab the brake hoods. If you're tough, grab the drops. Definately do
> not grab the tops of the bars.
Yes, that must be why I didn't see any TdF riders holding the tops while
climbing.....
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 00:13:22
From: sally
Subject: Re: drop bars, help.
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"Gooserider" <Gooserider@mouse-potato.com > wrote in
news:p6uBg.1115$Pc.803@tornado.tampabay.rr.com:
> Yes, that must be why I didn't see any TdF riders holding the tops
> while climbing.....
Only while sitting. The OP's question was where to hold the handlebar
while standing.
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