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Date: 21 Sep 2007 15:41:47
From: peter
Subject: groin pain/numbness
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I'm experiencing groin numbness while using a bike trainer, and having groin
pain a few times yesterday while not on the trainer. I stayed off the
trainer for a day and am ok now.
If weight is no concern, is there a bicycle seat that eliminates groin
numbness once and for all? I tried several seats, from very wide and fat gel
seat, seat with a V shape cut-out at the back, seat with a hole/slit cut in
the middle. None of them works. The seat to body contact area remains small
and contact the same general area, and that is the main problem.
Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact area)
and is split into two sides that move independently to allow pedaling
freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely there must be a
better alternative?
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 21:05:44
From: DennisTheBald
Subject: Re: Crank forward bikes, was groin pain/numbness
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My dear old mom just bought a Rans Zenetic Pro... I had kinda talked
her into it, more over trouble with her neck than the other end.
Since the skiing accident she needs to keep her head directly over her
shoulders...
I've ridden these Crank forward bike around the parking lot a bit. I
would consider switching from a recumbent, maybe... I do think my next
bike will probably be a Rans, but probably one that has a back on the
seat so that I have something to push against when I pedal.
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 20:55:38
From: DennisTheBald
Subject: Re: groin pain/numbness
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recumbent
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 20:08:08
From: ryancycles@comcast.net
Subject: Re: groin pain/numbness
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peter wrote:
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> Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact area)
> and is split into two sides that move independently to allow pedaling
> freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely there must be a
> better alternative?
A seat that completely eliminates the problem is supplied with the
Rans line of "Crank Forward" bikes. (rans.com) They also manufacture a
line of recumbent bikes that also eliminate the problem. The only
problem with these bikes is their price, $1000 and up. But if you are
going to do any long distance touring or commuting they are the way to
go.
Dick Ryan
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:18:28
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Crank forward bikes, was groin pain/numbness
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ryancycles@comcast.net wrote:
> peter wrote:
>>
>> Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact
>> area) and is split into two sides that move independently to allow
>> pedaling freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely
>> there must be a better alternative?
>
> A seat that completely eliminates the problem is supplied with the
> Rans line of "Crank Forward" bikes. (rans.com) They also manufacture a
> line of recumbent bikes that also eliminate the problem. The only
> problem with these bikes is their price, $1000 and up. But if you are
> going to do any long distance touring or commuting they are the way to
> go.
>
> Dick Ryan
A co-worker asked me about these, and I had to admit that my only exposure
to these was seeing one at the Rans booth at the Oshkosh air show. (Rans
also makes airplanes.)
Can anyone speak about these from personal experience?
One model is shown below.
http://www.ransbikes.com/Fusion07.htm
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 12:04:17
From: Jonathan
Subject: Re: Crank forward bikes, was groin pain/numbness
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My sister and her husband are fans of Rans (sorry...). She owns a Fusion
and a Rocket, and he owns a V-Rex and a non-Rans road bike. She uses the
Fusion much more than the Rocket but it's not a "true" recumbant, more like
a comfort bike taken to it's extreme. Both are avid bicylists logging
thousands of miles per year. The seat of the Fusion is a tractor-style
seat, and the others have sling-style seats. I've ridden them all and like
the Fusion best as it is a feet-down-and-forward riding style and very easy
to touch the ground with both feet. The only thing I don't like about it is
there is no possible way to stand up when riding, so you will feel every
bump you go over. I would choose the Fusion for city riding (stop-and-go)
over the others, but it is also very good for long distances as well).
The price kept me away from them, unfortunately. But you can also look into
Sun Bicycles, which makes a style very similar to the Fusion.
http://www.sunbicycles.com/sun/recumbents/ezSunRay/ezSunRay.htm
They also make several nice looking comfort bikes as well as true
recumbants.
http://www.sunbicycles.com/sun/bicycles/comfortBikes/select/comfortSelect.htm
http://www.sunbicycles.com/sun/bicycles/comfortBikes/hybrid/hybridSelect.htm
Cheers - Jonathan
"Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:0ZkJi.476$hI7.37@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> ryancycles@comcast.net wrote:
>> peter wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact
>>> area) and is split into two sides that move independently to allow
>>> pedaling freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely
>>> there must be a better alternative?
>>
>> A seat that completely eliminates the problem is supplied with the
>> Rans line of "Crank Forward" bikes. (rans.com) They also manufacture a
>> line of recumbent bikes that also eliminate the problem. The only
>> problem with these bikes is their price, $1000 and up. But if you are
>> going to do any long distance touring or commuting they are the way to
>> go.
>>
>> Dick Ryan
>
> A co-worker asked me about these, and I had to admit that my only exposure
> to these was seeing one at the Rans booth at the Oshkosh air show. (Rans
> also makes airplanes.)
>
> Can anyone speak about these from personal experience?
>
> One model is shown below.
> http://www.ransbikes.com/Fusion07.htm
>
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 17:13:15
From: Jonathan
Subject: Re: groin pain/numbness
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Search for "Easy Seat" or "Hobson Easy Seat" on either the web or eBay. I
moved from the stock Bontrager on my Trek Sole Ride to a standard Easy Seat
and love it.
Your mileage may vary.
Cheers - Jonathan
"peter" <nospam@nospam.com > wrote in message news:%CRIi.5$Wo4.4@trnddc03...
> I'm experiencing groin numbness while using a bike trainer, and having
> groin pain a few times yesterday while not on the trainer. I stayed off
> the trainer for a day and am ok now.
>
> If weight is no concern, is there a bicycle seat that eliminates groin
> numbness once and for all? I tried several seats, from very wide and fat
> gel seat, seat with a V shape cut-out at the back, seat with a hole/slit
> cut in the middle. None of them works. The seat to body contact area
> remains small and contact the same general area, and that is the main
> problem.
>
> Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact area)
> and is split into two sides that move independently to allow pedaling
> freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely there must be a
> better alternative?
>
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 09:40:22
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: groin pain/numbness
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peter wrote:
> I'm experiencing groin numbness while using a bike trainer, and having groin
> pain a few times yesterday while not on the trainer. I stayed off the
> trainer for a day and am ok now.
>
> If weight is no concern, is there a bicycle seat that eliminates groin
> numbness once and for all? I tried several seats, from very wide and fat gel
> seat, seat with a V shape cut-out at the back, seat with a hole/slit cut in
> the middle. None of them works. The seat to body contact area remains small
> and contact the same general area, and that is the main problem.
>
> Is there a seat that conforms to bud and thigh shape (large contact area)
> and is split into two sides that move independently to allow pedaling
> freely? I found one on the web with poor reviews. Surely there must be a
> better alternative?
Your weight should be on your butt-bones, not the perineum. You may
need to adjust the tilt of the saddle. Also make sure the seat isn't
too high, and the bars are high enough so you are not leaning too far
forward onto soft tissue.
Soft saddles, either padded or gel can actually be worse than a hard
one, while the hard bones crush down the padding, the softer tissues
often cannot and they end up with too much pressure and subsequent
numbness. Ideally a saddle should be somewhat firm, and wide enough to
support the butt bones. I like the Selle San Marco Rolls saddle for
just this reason.
Joseph
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