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Date: 21 Feb 2007 11:31:41
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Hi everybody,

I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case anybody has
an idea of whom to call for such a service.

Thanks,
Eric





 
Date: 24 Feb 2007 11:49:31
From: John Kane
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 23, 3:52 pm, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net > wrote:
> I think this one is neat if you have a parking lot.http://bikerack.ca/lock_up_1.html
>
> Canadian co. though

All the better :)

I've seen these used at Place de Portage (large govt complex) in
Gatineau (Hull) QC. and they seem to work well. The ones I have seen
were in a sort of free-stand carrosel arrangement and held probably
6-8 (maybe even 12?) bikes. Still there is the need for a sturdy
block of cement or something as an anchor. The ones I saw were on a
terrace (wide sidewalk?).

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada



 
Date: 24 Feb 2007 11:38:59
From: John Kane
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 21, 11:15 pm, Werehatrack <raul...@earthWEEDSlink.net > wrote:
> On 21 Feb 2007 12:31:20 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbra...@yahoo.com>
> may have said:
>
> >On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
>
> >Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier solution,
> >but takes up too much living space. I've already eliminated this
> >option.
>
> Consider also the effects of weather on the bikes. Will they be worth
> riding when you need them, if they aren't stored in a shelter of some
> sort?
What's the weather like down there? My bike has spent over 10 years
outside in southern Canadian weather with no problems.



 
Date: 23 Feb 2007 14:45:03
From: Chalo
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Werehatrack wrote:
>
> I have to observe that I knew more than a few
> potheads back in the '70s whose propensity for sociopathic behavior
> was every bit as problematic as many of the meth and crack heads of
> the present day. Every abuser's reaction is different; it's foolish
> to assume that your neighbor is harmless because he just smokes lots
> of homegrown dope rather than snorting nose candy.

This makes me wonder if _you're_ on crack. With all due respect, or
course.

I've lived among potheads, and I've lived among crackheads. There's
no comparison IMO. It's like the difference between video game
addicts and smack addicts.

Chalo



  
Date: 23 Feb 2007 23:15:14
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
javascript:resetfacets('http://performancebike.resultspage.com/search?p=Q&lbc=performancebike&uid=560976549&ts=custom&w=floor%20bike%20rack&af=&isort=score&method=and')

that is suppose to be a link at performancbike.com. Just look up floor bike
rack and you will get 4 choices. Mine is something like the Allen
"Bike rack" search there and you get other kinds.




 
Date: 23 Feb 2007 12:10:53
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home

> Could use two of the huge hooks home depot has for $5 and hang it by its
> front wheels?

Sure, if I had somewhere to hang it. My two options are: (1) sell all
3 bikes, or (2) lock them up safely outside. I've considered a
storage shed, but I like the bike rack idea better.



  
Date: 23 Feb 2007 20:52:43
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
I think this one is neat if you have a parking lot.
http://bikerack.ca/lock_up_1.html

Canadian co. though

lock up 2 could go against a wall. No construction needed. Probably high
priced though

this is pretty cool Takes no space and your condo strata will probably not
mind one screw which you can fill in when you leave.
http://www.autosportcatalog.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=1222&sc=5024

Even inside it would work well.




  
Date: 23 Feb 2007 20:27:07
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home

"Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1172261452.949952.281400@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Could use two of the huge hooks home depot has for $5 and hang it by its
>> front wheels?
>
> Sure, if I had somewhere to hang it. My two options are: (1) sell all
> 3 bikes, or (2) lock them up safely outside. I've considered a
> storage shed, but I like the bike rack idea better.
>



Well, that is weird. The site does not have bike racks.




  
Date: 23 Feb 2007 20:24:42
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Here it is
Model 60-0001
Serial 0001-100725
Fax 417 889-8064
Is called Stamina Guaranteed Performance
www.staminaproducts.com

I did not check it out. This rack is 2-3 years old.


"Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1172261452.949952.281400@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Could use two of the huge hooks home depot has for $5 and hang it by its
>> front wheels?
>
> Sure, if I had somewhere to hang it. My two options are: (1) sell all
> 3 bikes, or (2) lock them up safely outside. I've considered a
> storage shed, but I like the bike rack idea better.
>




 
Date: 23 Feb 2007 09:04:19
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Thanks for the assistance. I called them just now and the lady that
answered the phone said they don't sell bicycle parking racks. When I
mentioned XS Cargo, she had no idea what I was talking about. Any
idea what the make and model is to that gadget you have? Thanks again.



  
Date: 23 Feb 2007 19:53:29
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home

"Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1172250259.773434.93030@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for the assistance. I called them just now and the lady that
> answered the phone said they don't sell bicycle parking racks. When I
> mentioned XS Cargo, she had no idea what I was talking about. Any
> idea what the make and model is to that gadget you have? Thanks again.

That was the no. on the Stamina bike rack sorry.
I have seen them around though.
I can keep my eye open
I may get more info off the label too. Give me a moment.

Could use two of the huge hooks home depot has for $5 and hang it by its
front wheels?




 
Date: 23 Feb 2007 00:52:26
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
In article <mvsrt2lnburh7dk89a4qrnun1ijs4o56ur@4ax.com >,
Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > writes:

> I think he's only slightly over the top there;

No, not really. The West coast has a certain allure, especially
during winter months, to itinerant druggies from colder points east.

> the core message
> (indoor storage is the only reliable option) is accurate, though there
> may be a bit of hyperbole in the societal commentary.

Google on keywords: "Vancouver Downtown Eastside" and follow
up on the links, and you'll know that I'm not kidding.
These druggies really are desparados. Y'see, what's happened
is: as China and other newly industrializing Asian nations
develop, they put a big demand on scrap metals to assimilate
and re-ket.

We've already in this new year had a number of people die from
getting zapped, trying to steal copper wire from high-voltage
electric utility substations. They're even stealing the bronze
gravekers from cemeteries, just to feed their drug habits.
I once caught a guy trying to rip off the aluminum gutters off
our detached garage. These people are truly desperate. If they
can scrape $5 together, that's a rock that'll get them through
one more day.


>I doubt that
> he's kidding, though I have to observe that I knew more than a few
> potheads back in the '70s whose propensity for sociopathic behavior
> was every bit as problematic as many of the meth and crack heads of
> the present day.

Up here and back then, potheads were a much more mellow and
sociably considerate than today's breed of addicts, inflicted
on us by certain influential groups who kyboshed our former
happy state of affairs, moved it to their own inland quarters,
and replaced ours with a bunch of crappy chemical drugs. Back
then, potheads/hashheads didn't break into parked cars just to
steal a few coins out of the cupholder, or whack people on the
street for drug money.

> Every abuser's reaction is different; it's foolish
> to assume that your neighbor is harmless because he just smokes lots
> of homegrown dope rather than snorting nose candy.

Usually when potheads go nutz it's because they're
combining with other, chemical drugs. And it's that
other stuff that sets them off. If they'd just stick
to the strait & narrow of organic THC, they'd be okay,
happily kicking back in their Laz-E-Boys with their
headphones on, listening to Quadraphenia, and generally
staying out of trouble.

Anyways, there's a big, semi-underground scrap metal ket
going on. It's fed by appetites for raw materials by
developing industrial nations, and desperate drug addicts.
And bikes of any quality are at risk, as is any metal just
left lying around. k my words.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 22 Feb 2007 12:24:40
From: Ben Pfaff
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > writes:

> The third case was not much better in design than a toaster
> rack, and they almost put it too close to the building to use
> it at all. As it was, the drop off in front of the rack made
> for some difficult times for the users.

I hate running into those racks. There are a number of
businesses around here where the owners had the insight to
install a bike rack, but not the insight to notice that it was
installed so close to a wall that you could only park one bike at
it (parallel to the wall). I don't know whether to thank them
for installing a rack at all, or to complain because they did
such a lousy job.
--
"doe not call up Any that you can not put downe."
--H. P. Lovecraft


 
Date: 22 Feb 2007 12:07:52
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
I lock my bikes together, through wheels and frames, even when they're
indoors.



 
Date: 22 Feb 2007 12:04:57
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
OK, people, I was asking for advice on how to install a bicyle parking
rack at home. I'm a Californian, I remember the 70's and the "non-
violent" offenders--I saw plenty of violence by doped up drunks as a
kid, by the way--and I lived in the bike rip-off capital of the
state. I know how to lock my bikes up, you don't have to tell me how
much I love them! I haven't avoided getting ripped off for this long
by being naive. However, the wife and kids like the furniture and
clean living space, so it's either going to be an outdoor parking rack
or an entire lockable shed. "Inclement weather" here comes in the
form of occasional showers, and that's all. I intend to throw a tarp
over them if I don't opt for the shed.

Thanks for all the advice, but has anybody actually installed a
parking rack? Seems like only one person has actual experience with
this.



  
Date: 22 Feb 2007 15:15:46
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 22 Feb 2007 12:04:57 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Thanks for all the advice, but has anybody actually installed a
>parking rack? Seems like only one person has actual experience with
>this.

Yes, but not at a house. None of them would seem to apply to your
situation. In two cases we used relatively modern designs with
additional stand alone units that attached at the bottom bracket or
anything approaching a bottom bracket. Since we put all of them into
fresh concrete, it isn't exactly the same. The third case was not much
better in design than a toaster rack, and they almost put it too close
to the building to use it at all. As it was, the drop off in front of
the rack made for some difficult times for the users.

I just took my Bike Friday up to my office...

One problem we had using a commercial rack is that a lot of the
contacts, other than toaster rack styles, wanted to talk to someone
representing sales of at least ten or so, better yet, a municipality
buying a lot more. One rack didn't get a lot of return phone calls
from some of the firms. We got ours from a business that distributed
outdoor benches and such.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


   
Date: 23 Feb 2007 01:32:26
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home

"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote in message
news:ivtrt21k6l7bcdf5sqba686fp8t9chjhfq@4ax.com...
> On 22 Feb 2007 12:04:57 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for all the advice, but has anybody actually installed a
>>parking rack? Seems like only one person has actual experience with
>>this.
>
> Yes, but not at a house. None of them would seem to apply to your
> situation. In two cases we used relatively modern designs with
> additional stand alone units that attached at the bottom bracket or
> anything approaching a bottom bracket. Since we put all of them into
> fresh concrete, it isn't exactly the same. The third case was not much
> better in design than a toaster rack, and they almost put it too close
> to the building to use it at all. As it was, the drop off in front of
> the rack made for some difficult times for the users.
>
> I just took my Bike Friday up to my office...
>
> One problem we had using a commercial rack is that a lot of the
> contacts, other than toaster rack styles, wanted to talk to someone
> representing sales of at least ten or so, better yet, a municipality
> buying a lot more. One rack didn't get a lot of return phone calls
> from some of the firms. We got ours from a business that distributed
> outdoor benches and such.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

I got mine from XS Cargo. $18. holds 2 bikes facing each other. It is on
my patio. Called "Stamina"




    
Date: 23 Feb 2007 01:45:22
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Stamina ph.no. 1800-375-7520 (only good in the US)
Google search will not find it.




 
Date: 22 Feb 2007 02:49:03
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
In article <m46qt2t4u8o3a3b3nt1ujt2cjk1ta6dotq@4ax.com >,
Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > writes:
> On 21 Feb 2007 12:31:20 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com>
> may have said:
>
>>On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
>>
>>Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier solution,
>>but takes up too much living space. I've already eliminated this
>>option.
>
> Consider also the effects of weather on the bikes.

He's in San Jose. San Jose doen't have weather.
Just earthquakes & sunshine. Almost the next
best thing to Sandy Eggo.


> Will they be worth
> riding when you need them, if they aren't stored in a shelter of some
> sort?

If they're still there, unstolen & unvandalized,
I'd expect they would be.

Climate Change might make an issue of outdoor bike storage
down there in Paradise. As you know, the West Coast has
already been battered by some pretty hefty storms lately.

Bikes, like good huntin' dogs, like to enjoy some indoor
comfort, with the rest of their pack.

To the Original Poster (hi Eric <smile, wave >) I'd say
get rid of the sofa, to make room for the stuff that
matters more to you. People that can't/won't tolerate
sitting on hard-ass'd kitchen chairs aren't worth the
trouble of trying to please anyways.

Cohabitate with your beloved bikes!
Love them and protect them, and they'll give so much
back to you, if you let 'em.

Don't let greedy hands despoil them. 'Cuz that's what
will happen if you leave them outside.

Hell, while you're sleeping at night, there's probably
people coming by and poking around in your garbage can,
looking for deposit bottles, and any copper or aluminum
to ultimately sell to China via a metal recycling joint,
so they can get a $5 rock or gak to eke them through
another dreadful night.

In other words, if you want to keep your bikes,
you've gotta keep them indoors, by hook or by crook.
Sometimes even that isn't enough. I'm sorry to break
the bad news to ya, but that's how it is.

In the old days (60's/70's/early 80's) the West Coast
had the best hashish thing going. Then certain influences
kyboshed all that, stuck the West Coast with crappy coke &
derivatives and other crap, and snookered our happy
cannabinoids to points east & south (the filthy swine.)
So we on the West Coast are now stuck with a bunch of
thieving addicts who want the exportable metals on your
bike to trade with scrap dealers, to keep from feeling
deathly sick & desperate.

If the West Coast had the good ol' hash trade back, it
would solve a lot of social misery. 'Cuz folks on hash
don't wanna break into cars, or steal bikes, or even
get up out of their chairs. They just wanna kick back
and dig some (Sid Barett) Pink Floyd or Led Zep or Yes
or Ras Michael And The Sons And Daughters Of Nemus or
John Mayall or Jethro Tull or Jimi Hendrix or that guy
whom I suspect is the illegitimate son of Peter O'Toole
(David Bowie) or even some Bob Dyldo.

But, no. Things is as they is, and there ain't
no two ways about it.

Outdoor bikes are targets. Defend them. Desarados
are out to get 'em.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca




  
Date: 22 Feb 2007 17:53:23
From: nash
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Outdoor bikes are targets. Defend them. Desarados
are out to get 'em.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

That is so true and they are very brazen as well.
I live in a 80 suite condo complex, first floor, I forgot to
turn on the outside light one night and they stole my Trek
and broke down a locked gate. I did not lock the Trek all
the time because I locked the gate.
No one heard them or bothered to say anything.
It was on its last legs after riding the hell out of it everyday for 5 years
anyway so they might have used it for the metal I guess.




  
Date: 22 Feb 2007 09:51:32
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Tom Keats wrote:
:: In article <m46qt2t4u8o3a3b3nt1ujt2cjk1ta6dotq@4ax.com >,
:: Werehatrack <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > writes:
::: On 21 Feb 2007 12:31:20 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com >
::: may have said:
:::
:::: On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com > wrote:
::::: Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
::::
:::: Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier
:::: solution, but takes up too much living space. I've already
:::: eliminated this option.
:::
::: Consider also the effects of weather on the bikes.
::
:: He's in San Jose. San Jose doen't have weather.
:: Just earthquakes & sunshine. Almost the next
:: best thing to Sandy Eggo.
::
::
::: Will they be worth
::: riding when you need them, if they aren't stored in a shelter of
::: some sort?
::
:: If they're still there, unstolen & unvandalized,
:: I'd expect they would be.
::
:: Climate Change might make an issue of outdoor bike storage
:: down there in Paradise. As you know, the West Coast has
:: already been battered by some pretty hefty storms lately.
::
:: Bikes, like good huntin' dogs, like to enjoy some indoor
:: comfort, with the rest of their pack.
::
:: To the Original Poster (hi Eric <smile, wave >) I'd say
:: get rid of the sofa, to make room for the stuff that
:: matters more to you. People that can't/won't tolerate
:: sitting on hard-ass'd kitchen chairs aren't worth the
:: trouble of trying to please anyways.
::
:: Cohabitate with your beloved bikes!
:: Love them and protect them, and they'll give so much
:: back to you, if you let 'em.
::
:: Don't let greedy hands despoil them. 'Cuz that's what
:: will happen if you leave them outside.
::
:: Hell, while you're sleeping at night, there's probably
:: people coming by and poking around in your garbage can,
:: looking for deposit bottles, and any copper or aluminum
:: to ultimately sell to China via a metal recycling joint,
:: so they can get a $5 rock or gak to eke them through
:: another dreadful night.
::
:: In other words, if you want to keep your bikes,
:: you've gotta keep them indoors, by hook or by crook.
:: Sometimes even that isn't enough. I'm sorry to break
:: the bad news to ya, but that's how it is.
::
:: In the old days (60's/70's/early 80's) the West Coast
:: had the best hashish thing going. Then certain influences
:: kyboshed all that, stuck the West Coast with crappy coke &
:: derivatives and other crap, and snookered our happy
:: cannabinoids to points east & south (the filthy swine.)
:: So we on the West Coast are now stuck with a bunch of
:: thieving addicts who want the exportable metals on your
:: bike to trade with scrap dealers, to keep from feeling
:: deathly sick & desperate.
::
:: If the West Coast had the good ol' hash trade back, it
:: would solve a lot of social misery. 'Cuz folks on hash
:: don't wanna break into cars, or steal bikes, or even
:: get up out of their chairs. They just wanna kick back
:: and dig some (Sid Barett) Pink Floyd or Led Zep or Yes
:: or Ras Michael And The Sons And Daughters Of Nemus or
:: John Mayall or Jethro Tull or Jimi Hendrix or that guy
:: whom I suspect is the illegitimate son of Peter O'Toole
:: (David Bowie) or even some Bob Dyldo.
::
:: But, no. Things is as they is, and there ain't
:: no two ways about it.
::
:: Outdoor bikes are targets. Defend them. Desarados
:: are out to get 'em.
::

Wow....I'm not sure if you're kiddin or not.




   
Date: 22 Feb 2007 13:55:59
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:51:32 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > may have said:

>Tom Keats wrote:
>:: Cohabitate with your beloved bikes!
>:: Love them and protect them, and they'll give so much
>:: back to you, if you let 'em.
>::
>:: Don't let greedy hands despoil them. 'Cuz that's what
>:: will happen if you leave them outside.
>::
>:: Hell, while you're sleeping at night, there's probably
>:: people coming by and poking around in your garbage can,
>:: looking for deposit bottles, and any copper or aluminum
>:: to ultimately sell to China via a metal recycling joint,
>:: so they can get a $5 rock or gak to eke them through
>:: another dreadful night.
>::
>:: In other words, if you want to keep your bikes,
>:: you've gotta keep them indoors, by hook or by crook.
>:: Sometimes even that isn't enough. I'm sorry to break
>:: the bad news to ya, but that's how it is.
>::
>:: In the old days (60's/70's/early 80's) the West Coast
>:: had the best hashish thing going. Then certain influences
>:: kyboshed all that, stuck the West Coast with crappy coke &
>:: derivatives and other crap, and snookered our happy
>:: cannabinoids to points east & south (the filthy swine.)
>:: So we on the West Coast are now stuck with a bunch of
>:: thieving addicts who want the exportable metals on your
>:: bike to trade with scrap dealers, to keep from feeling
>:: deathly sick & desperate.
>::
>:: If the West Coast had the good ol' hash trade back, it
>:: would solve a lot of social misery. 'Cuz folks on hash
>:: don't wanna break into cars, or steal bikes, or even
>:: get up out of their chairs. They just wanna kick back
>:: and dig some (Sid Barett) Pink Floyd or Led Zep or Yes
>:: or Ras Michael And The Sons And Daughters Of Nemus or
>:: John Mayall or Jethro Tull or Jimi Hendrix or that guy
>:: whom I suspect is the illegitimate son of Peter O'Toole
>:: (David Bowie) or even some Bob Dyldo.
>::
>:: But, no. Things is as they is, and there ain't
>:: no two ways about it.
>::
>:: Outdoor bikes are targets. Defend them. Desarados
>:: are out to get 'em.
>::
>
>Wow....I'm not sure if you're kiddin or not.

I think he's only slightly over the top there; the core message
(indoor storage is the only reliable option) is accurate, though there
may be a bit of hyperbole in the societal commentary. I doubt that
he's kidding, though I have to observe that I knew more than a few
potheads back in the '70s whose propensity for sociopathic behavior
was every bit as problematic as many of the meth and crack heads of
the present day. Every abuser's reaction is different; it's foolish
to assume that your neighbor is harmless because he just smokes lots
of homegrown dope rather than snorting nose candy.

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
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Date: 21 Feb 2007 22:12:22
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 21 Feb 2007 11:31:41 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com >
may have said:

>Hi everybody,
>
>I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
>storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
>considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
>of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
>eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
>Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
>installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
>tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case anybody has
>an idea of whom to call for such a service.

If you aren't in a complex with a really effective security system,
keep the bikes inside the unit or be prepared to lose them. No
lock-up rack will protect a bike from being stolen if the thief has
ready access to it and wants the bike.

There are several indoor bike storage rack systems made for apartment
and condo dwellers; which one is right for you will depend on what you
have for priorities in feature selection.


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Date: 22 Feb 2007 19:53:13
From: Andrew Price
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:12:22 -0600, Werehatrack
<rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > wrote:

[---]

>There are several indoor bike storage rack systems made for apartment
>and condo dwellers; which one is right for you will depend on what you
>have for priorities in feature selection.

I'd also be interested in learning a bit more about those - do you
happen to have a URL for any of them?


 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 20:42:25
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 21 Feb 2007 11:31:41 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
>storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
>considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
>of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
>eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
>Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
>installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
>tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case anybody has
>an idea of whom to call for such a service.

You might want to think about getting something like one of these:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=21173
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=12642
and then bolting it into the concrete. I don't know how anal your
condo board is, but you could likely drill the holes and bolt one in
with a couple hours' work, and the bolt holes shouldn't be a huge deal
to fill in if the authorities really didn't like it.

Pat

Email address works as is.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 12:35:17
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On 2007-02-21, Eric Bragas <ericbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
> > Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
> > installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
> > tell me anything about my idea?
>
> If it's a condo, your chances of being allowed to do anything to the
> outside of the unit are slim. Check with the condo board before you
> bother calling around for the rack.
>
> --
>
> __o Kristian Zoerhoff
> _'\(,_ kristian.zoerh...@gmail.com
> (_)/ (_)

Thanks, Kristian, I realize this is a big IF. The concrete slab in
question is the one in the fenced backyard; it's not a communal area.
This is the first time I'll be living in a condo, so I'm taking your
advice to heart. I know not to assume liberties in this situation.



  
Date: 21 Feb 2007 20:41:24
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 2007-02-21, Eric Bragas <ericbragas@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 21, 12:24 pm, Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2007-02-21, Eric Bragas <ericbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
>> > Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
>> > installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
>> > tell me anything about my idea?
>>
>> If it's a condo, your chances of being allowed to do anything to the
>> outside of the unit are slim. Check with the condo board before you
>> bother calling around for the rack.
>>
> Thanks, Kristian, I realize this is a big IF. The concrete slab in
> question is the one in the fenced backyard; it's not a communal area.
> This is the first time I'll be living in a condo, so I'm taking your
> advice to heart. I know not to assume liberties in this situation.

Ah, that's probably more to your advantage. You could probably install
the rack yourself, if that's the case. Just need a big drill & masonry
bit, and just bolt the rack down. Sounds like a good excuse to hit the
hardware store, in any event :-)

--

__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)


 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 12:33:31
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 21, 12:02 pm, "Brian Huntley" <brian_hunt...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:31 pm, "Eric Bragas" <ericbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody,
>
> > I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
> > storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
> > considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
> > of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
> > eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
> > Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
> > installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
> > tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case anybody has
> > an idea of whom to call for such a service.
>
> I can't help you with Condo Authorities or San Jose or such, but I put
> a rail made of "black mallable iron" pipe and elbows in my front year,
> along the inside of my hedge, to act as a bike rack. It's set in
> concrete (buried) and I painted it with Rustoleum. It's very
> unobtrusive, although it typically has three bikes and a wagon locked
> to it.

Thanks, Brian, but I think I'm going to go with a rack bolted to the
concrete instead. I would want it to be a selling point when the time
comes later down the road, so I don't think I'll go with anything home-
made, although your solution sounds like an effective one.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 12:31:20
From: Eric Bragas
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Eric Bragas wrote:
>
> :: Hi everybody,
> ::
> :: I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
> :: storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
> :: considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
> :: of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
> :: eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
> :: Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
> :: installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can
> :: anybody tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case
> :: anybody has an idea of whom to call for such a service.
>
> Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.

Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier solution,
but takes up too much living space. I've already eliminated this
option.



  
Date: 21 Feb 2007 22:15:23
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 21 Feb 2007 12:31:20 -0800, "Eric Bragas" <ericbragas@yahoo.com >
may have said:

>On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
>
>Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier solution,
>but takes up too much living space. I've already eliminated this
>option.

Consider also the effects of weather on the bikes. Will they be worth
riding when you need them, if they aren't stored in a shelter of some
sort?

--
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Date: 21 Feb 2007 16:39:59
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Eric Bragas wrote:
:: On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com > wrote:
::: Eric Bragas wrote:
:::
::::: Hi everybody,
:::::
::::: I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
::::: storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like
::::: overkill considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those
::::: found in front of most stores, may be considerably less expensive
::::: and less of an eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure
::::: I need to get the Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't
::::: know much about installing anything, so I'll likely hire a
::::: contractor, but can anybody tell me anything about my idea? I'm
::::: in San Jose, in case anybody has an idea of whom to call for such
::::: a service.
:::
::: Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
::
:: Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier
:: solution, but takes up too much living space. I've already
:: eliminated this option.

Interesting. It also depends on where you put them. They don't have to all
be in the same place. Hung from the ceiling in various locations could
allow the use of "dead" space and greater security.

Just some ideas.




   
Date: 21 Feb 2007 19:28:07
From: dgk
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:39:59 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Eric Bragas wrote:
>:: On Feb 21, 12:04 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>::: Eric Bragas wrote:
>:::
>::::: Hi everybody,
>:::::
>::::: I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
>::::: storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like
>::::: overkill considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those
>::::: found in front of most stores, may be considerably less expensive
>::::: and less of an eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure
>::::: I need to get the Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't
>::::: know much about installing anything, so I'll likely hire a
>::::: contractor, but can anybody tell me anything about my idea? I'm
>::::: in San Jose, in case anybody has an idea of whom to call for such
>::::: a service.
>:::
>::: Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.
>::
>:: Three bicycles inside a condo? That's definitely the easier
>:: solution, but takes up too much living space. I've already
>:: eliminated this option.
>
>Interesting. It also depends on where you put them. They don't have to all
>be in the same place. Hung from the ceiling in various locations could
>allow the use of "dead" space and greater security.
>
>Just some ideas.
>

Besides making a fine conversation piece.


 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 20:24:05
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On 2007-02-21, Eric Bragas <ericbragas@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
> Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
> installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
> tell me anything about my idea?

If it's a condo, your chances of being allowed to do anything to the
outside of the unit are slim. Check with the condo board before you
bother calling around for the rack.

--

__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)


 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 12:02:27
From: Brian Huntley
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
On Feb 21, 2:31 pm, "Eric Bragas" <ericbra...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
> storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
> considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
> of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
> eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
> Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
> installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can anybody
> tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case anybody has
> an idea of whom to call for such a service.

I can't help you with Condo Authorities or San Jose or such, but I put
a rail made of "black mallable iron" pipe and elbows in my front year,
along the inside of my hedge, to act as a bike rack. It's set in
concrete (buried) and I painted it with Rustoleum. It's very
unobtrusive, although it typically has three bikes and a wagon locked
to it.



 
Date: 21 Feb 2007 15:04:45
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: how to install a bicycle parking rack at home
Eric Bragas wrote:
:: Hi everybody,
::
:: I am moving to unit without a garage. (Gasp!) I know I can buy a
:: storage shed to house my three bicycles, but it seems like overkill
:: considering a simple bicycle parking rack, like those found in front
:: of most stores, may be considerably less expensive and less of an
:: eyesore. Can anybody advise me on this? I'm sure I need to get the
:: Condo Authorities permission first, and I don't know much about
:: installing anything, so I'll likely hire a contractor, but can
:: anybody tell me anything about my idea? I'm in San Jose, in case
:: anybody has an idea of whom to call for such a service.

Mount them on the wall or ceiling inside your unit.