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Date: 24 May 2007 10:44:36
From: Sushi Fish
Subject: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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I am overwhelmed with choice of bikes, basically, I am looking at
cross bike to ride short tips & exercise around neighborhood. I perfer
bike of 25 lbs or less with ** good quality ** frame and components
that doesn't break my bank.
I rather buy a good used one than a bad new one, reliability is more
important than fancy tech
Steel vs Alu vs carbon for long lasting
high quality Shimano components and good riding bike.
Any recommendations?
After owning a few cheap bikes, I don't realize how good good bike
feels
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Date: 26 May 2007 14:21:07
From: Chris Nelson
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On May 26, 1:53 pm, Sushi Fish <yellowtail_2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On May 24, 2:13 pm, "russellseat...@yahoo.com"
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> > Pretty much any name brand bike sold in the last 10-15 years will fit
> > this bill well enough. But you have to have the mechanical ability to
> > work on, restore a used bike. Do you have that ability?
>
> Went to local shop, bike of the same group have different riding
> characteristics, cheaper bike of the same line rides better than the
> more expensive one (Giant FCR line.) Mind is set up, I go with steel
> bike (Surly, Jamis) and stay out of trendy expensive one. AL,
> Composite is the buzz words, cost a lot more for less the ride.
You must have rode the Jamis Nova. It is a great bike and cannot be
beat for the money. Very versatile. I say go buy one and ride. Make
sure you get the correct size.
Chris
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Date: 26 May 2007 10:53:49
From: Sushi Fish
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On May 24, 2:13 pm, "russellseat...@yahoo.com"
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> Pretty much any name brand bike sold in the last 10-15 years will fit
> this bill well enough. But you have to have the mechanical ability to
> work on, restore a used bike. Do you have that ability?
>
Went to local shop, bike of the same group have different riding
characteristics, cheaper bike of the same line rides better than the
more expensive one (Giant FCR line.) Mind is set up, I go with steel
bike (Surly, Jamis) and stay out of trendy expensive one. AL,
Composite is the buzz words, cost a lot more for less the ride.
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Date: 25 May 2007 10:56:21
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On May 25, 7:28 am, "russellseat...@yahoo.com"
<russellseat...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Your statement makes it clear you have never ridden in Kansas. Many
> parts of Kansas have plenty of hills. And the wind blows there more
> than most parts of the country. A single speed bike would be far, far
> more pleasant riding in supposedly hilly parts of the country than
> into a Kansas headwind.
>
On Last year's RAAM, David "Tinker" Juarez made it over the Rocky
Mountains in his 53T chainring. What finally made him shift down to
his 39T?
A Kansas headwind.
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Date: 25 May 2007 07:28:22
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On May 24, 11:27 pm, "Dave Mayer" <dave4...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> "Sushi Fish" <yellowtail_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:1180028676.078144.167470@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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> >I am overwhelmed with choice of bikes, basically, I am looking at cross
> >bike to ride short tips & exercise around neighborhood.
>
> Unless you neighborhood ride includes bouncing over head-sized rocks on a 30
> percent grade at warp speeds, do not get suspension on your bike. No heavy
> and energy-sapping front suspension, and no (gag) suspension seatpost.
> Especially not a full-suspension mountain bike, which is the worst possible
> choice for 99% of all adult riders. A flat-bar road bike or a 'cross bike
> is a good overall choice. And get relatively narrow slick tires. Knobbies
> offer low traction on pavement, are unnecessarily heavy, and howl away at
> any kind of speed. Go lightweight. If you've ever experienced a 20 pound
> bike, riding a 30 pound hybrid or city bike will be misery, especially on
> hills.
Resist any suggestions to go single-speed or fixed-gear. I know
> this is the trendy thing at the moment, but is not a real-life solution
> except if you only ride in Kansas or race on a track.
Your statement makes it clear you have never ridden in Kansas. Many
parts of Kansas have plenty of hills. And the wind blows there more
than most parts of the country. A single speed bike would be far, far
more pleasant riding in supposedly hilly parts of the country than
into a Kansas headwind.
Finally, leave money
> in your budget get a high-pressure floor pump, a spare tube/tire irons/patch
> kit, and some basic tools.
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Date: 25 May 2007 04:27:57
From: Dave Mayer
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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"Sushi Fish" <yellowtail_2005@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1180028676.078144.167470@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>I am overwhelmed with choice of bikes, basically, I am looking at cross
>bike to ride short tips & exercise around neighborhood.
Unless you neighborhood ride includes bouncing over head-sized rocks on a 30
percent grade at warp speeds, do not get suspension on your bike. No heavy
and energy-sapping front suspension, and no (gag) suspension seatpost.
Especially not a full-suspension mountain bike, which is the worst possible
choice for 99% of all adult riders. A flat-bar road bike or a 'cross bike
is a good overall choice. And get relatively narrow slick tires. Knobbies
offer low traction on pavement, are unnecessarily heavy, and howl away at
any kind of speed. Go lightweight. If you've ever experienced a 20 pound
bike, riding a 30 pound hybrid or city bike will be misery, especially on
hills. Resist any suggestions to go single-speed or fixed-gear. I know
this is the trendy thing at the moment, but is not a real-life solution
except if you only ride in Kansas or race on a track. Finally, leave money
in your budget get a high-pressure floor pump, a spare tube/tire irons/patch
kit, and some basic tools.
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Date: 25 May 2007 06:16:36
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 04:27:57 GMT, "Dave Mayer" <dave4242@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Especially not a full-suspension mountain bike, which is the worst possible
>choice for 99% of all adult riders.
Worst possible? That's pretty hyperbolic.
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Date: 26 May 2007 05:16:28
From: Dave Mayer
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message:
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> Worst possible? That's pretty hyperbolic.
> --
It's my opinion and I'm sticking too it.
I've ridden Hyperbolic-style bikes. I agree it wasn't pretty, but it was
still better than lugging along on a full-suspension bike.
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Date: 25 May 2007 01:32:01
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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" > I rather buy a good used one than a bad new one, reliability is more
> important than fancy tech
I would rather buy a new one, because a used one could kill you if you don't
know how to inspect a bike. You never know how many crashes it's been in.
Carbon fiber can't be inspected, so unless you know the total history of the
bike, you're taking a chance. That's my opinion of course. It sounds like
you are comparing it to buying a car, bikes are much different. Some will
differ with me, but eventually you have to change all the components anyway,
if you ride as much as I do. If you do buy a new bike, stay away from
oddball configurations, or proprietary setups. Get the standard stuff, so
if any component has to be replaced, it can be done cheaply.
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Date: 24 May 2007 17:40:11
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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In article <1180028676.078144.167470@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com >,
Sushi Fish <yellowtail_2005@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I am overwhelmed with choice of bikes, basically, I am looking at
> cross bike to ride short tips & exercise around neighborhood. I
> perfer bike of 25 lbs or less with ** good quality ** frame and
> components that doesn't break my bank.
>
> I rather buy a good used one than a bad new one, reliability is more
> important than fancy tech
>
> Steel vs Alu vs carbon for long lasting high quality Shimano
> components and good riding bike.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
> After owning a few cheap bikes, I don't realize how good good bike
> feels
Shop for a bike shop first, not a bike. Find a bike shop you like with
a good local reputation (if you tell us where you live, someone here
might be able to recommend a shop). Decide how much you want to spend
and present the shop with that number. They'll show you your options,
and it'll be a much narrower set of choices.
As far as used bikes, that's very hard to advise you on. Prices are
going to be all over the map and mostly based on extraneous factors.
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Date: 24 May 2007 15:13:46
From: russellseaton1@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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On May 24, 12:44 pm, Sushi Fish <yellowtail_2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I am overwhelmed with choice of bikes,
Your budget can limit your bike choices.
basically, I am looking at
> cross bike to ride short tips & exercise around neighborhood.
A cross specific bike to ride around town? I suspect any bike of any
quality level would work for these activities.
I perfer
> bike of 25 lbs or less with ** good quality ** frame and components
> that doesn't break my bank.
Pretty much any name brand bike sold in the last 10-15 years will fit
this bill well enough.
>
> I rather buy a good used one than a bad new one, reliability is more
> important than fancy tech
Pretty much any name brand bike sold in the last 10-15 years will fit
this bill well enough. Fancy tech can be quite reliable. Ergo
levers, fancy tech, last for years and years, tens upon tens of
thousands of miles, before needing a few parts to rebuild them.
>
> Steel vs Alu vs carbon for long lasting
They all can last a long time. Or a short time. Depends on how the
maker put them together and what his objective was. Light weight?
Durability?
> high quality Shimano components and good riding bike.
"high quality Shimano components" Not a combination of words I would
ever use together. But for your purposes it will almost certainly end
up with Shimano parts. For name brand bikes sold in the past 10-15
years, Shimano has the market cornered. So new or used, you will be
looking at a Shimano equipped bike. Particularly at the under $1000
level.
>
> Any recommendations?
Pretty much any name brand bike sold in the last 10-15 years will fit
this bill well enough. But you have to have the mechanical ability to
work on, restore a used bike. Do you have that ability?
>
> After owning a few cheap bikes, I don't realize how good good bike
> feels
Go to a local bike shop and test ride some bikes.
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Date: 24 May 2007 14:36:03
From: runcyclexcski@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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shimano 105 group. Steel frames are the most reliable, and also flex
more than Al and C.
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Date: 24 May 2007 17:37:03
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: what're in a good bike (frame, gears, etc...)
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In article <1180042563.221537.194580@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com >,
"runcyclexcski@yahoo.com" <runcyclexcski@yahoo.com > wrote:
> shimano 105 group.
Good working stuff at a good price.
> Steel frames are the most reliable,
Not necessarily true.
> and also flex more than Al and C.
Neither true nor important.
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