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Date: 23 Feb 2007 09:30:53
From: nash
Subject: zen of bicycle maintenance
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What do you say we rename the newsgroup zen of bicycle maintenance and toss
the dreary, old standard?
Kind of a survival guide. Same everything but the name.
Just entertaining food for thought.
Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might think
that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
There may be more interest from people that have a different outlook,
different view than we get here most of the time.
Winter as a topic has been pretty essential this year no doubt. Cheers to
those still chillin'.
zoom zen
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Date: 25 Feb 2007 19:33:21
From: amakyonin
Subject: Re: zen of bicycle maintenance
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On Feb 23, 4:30 am, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net > wrote:
> Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might think
> that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
"Zen" has been turned into a trite keting word used by simpletons
who want to seem profound while not knowing a single meanigful thing
about any branch of Buddhism. The Usenet hierarchy name is just fine
thank you very much.
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Date: 26 Feb 2007 20:26:00
From: download.com
Subject: Re: zen of bicycle maintenance
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"amakyonin" <amakyonin-u1@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1172460801.406860.232490@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 23, 4:30 am, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net> wrote:
>> Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might think
>> that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
>
> "Zen" has been turned into a trite keting word used by simpletons
> who want to seem profound while not knowing a single meanigful thing
> about any branch of Buddhism. The Usenet hierarchy name is just fine
> thank you very much.
>
Dear Mr. Nameless,
I am trying to find out about "ZenBuddhist" and Buddhist!
Do you know anything about the two?
TIA,
Burr
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Date: 26 Feb 2007 04:24:28
From: nash
Subject: Re: zen of bicycle maintenance
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"amakyonin" <amakyonin-u1@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1172460801.406860.232490@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 23, 4:30 am, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net> wrote:
>> Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might think
>> that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
>
> "Zen" has been turned into a trite keting word used by simpletons
> who want to seem profound while not knowing a single meanigful thing
> about any branch of Buddhism. The Usenet hierarchy name is just fine
> thank you very much.
So you did not like the movie then?
You have a very negative view of what I was saying.
You are not just fine thank-you very much.
Meaningless puke yourself.
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Date: 26 Feb 2007 14:57:23
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: zen of bicycle maintenance
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"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
news:0itEh.1132846$1T2.657913@pd7urf2no...
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> "amakyonin" <amakyonin-u1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1172460801.406860.232490@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 23, 4:30 am, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net> wrote:
>>> Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might
>>> think
>>> that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
>>
>> "Zen" has been turned into a trite keting word used by simpletons
>> who want to seem profound while not knowing a single meanigful thing
>> about any branch of Buddhism.
> So you did not like the movie then?
What movie are you refering to? There was a book, "Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle Maintenance", popular many years ago.
> You have a very negative view of what I was saying.
While amakyonin was not necessarily polite in his opinions, I understand
where he is coming from. I find the exploitation of "Zen" for commercial
purposes jarring. For example, I own a Creative Zen personal music player.
Would they make a Creative Episcopalian? A Creative Reconstructionist?
Back in my salad days, I lived in a Rinzai Zen temple in Japan. (You can see
its website over here: http://homepage2.nifty.com/shoryuji/index.htm) My
personal experience with Zen, especially having also studied some other
forms of Buddhism, is that it is highly disciplined. I believe that Zen
approach to bicycle maintenance would have every tool in its place, a focus
on finding the right technique and perfecting it, an obsession with the
bicycle being clean and well-lubricated at all times so that the bicycle was
always running smoothly.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 26 Feb 2007 19:13:04
From: nash
Subject: Re: zen of bicycle maintenance
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"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:nzCEh.4157$PL.1186@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote in message
> news:0itEh.1132846$1T2.657913@pd7urf2no...
>>
>> "amakyonin" <amakyonin-u1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1172460801.406860.232490@z35g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Feb 23, 4:30 am, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net> wrote:
>>>> Zen is a way of life, religion, and philosophy and some of us might
>>>> think
>>>> that bicycling is a way of life or a big part of it.
>>>
>>> "Zen" has been turned into a trite keting word used by simpletons
>>> who want to seem profound while not knowing a single meanigful thing
>>> about any branch of Buddhism.
>
>> So you did not like the movie then?
>
> What movie are you refering to? There was a book, "Zen and the Art of
> Motorcycle Maintenance", popular many years ago.
>
>> You have a very negative view of what I was saying.
>
> While amakyonin was not necessarily polite in his opinions, I understand
> where he is coming from. I find the exploitation of "Zen" for commercial
> purposes jarring. For example, I own a Creative Zen personal music player.
> Would they make a Creative Episcopalian? A Creative Reconstructionist?
>
> Back in my salad days, I lived in a Rinzai Zen temple in Japan. (You can
> see its website over here: http://homepage2.nifty.com/shoryuji/index.htm)
> My personal experience with Zen, especially having also studied some other
> forms of Buddhism, is that it is highly disciplined. I believe that Zen
> approach to bicycle maintenance would have every tool in its place, a
> focus on finding the right technique and perfecting it, an obsession with
> the bicycle being clean and well-lubricated at all times so that the
> bicycle was always running smoothly.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
>
>
> Claire Petersky
> http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
> See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
Thanks for that Claire,
The movie correct
The analogy for bicycles correct. I wish I had the chance to do what
you have done with Zen buddhists.
I am reading "Red China Blues" by Jan Wong
I have seen the Imax movie on Kung Fu (I think?) showing how they train in
strength by hanging themselves from ropes by the neck as boys and building
up to balancing the whole body on one finger. handstand style
It is truly one of the most incredible things I have ever seen and I am in
awe. If I find the title I can post it. I think they are monks too and
therefore the tie in to religion. I would not last one day.
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