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Date: 15 Jul 2007 12:52:34
From: Jim Tocco
Subject: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the pric
range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bikes
may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would b
appreciated!
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Jim Tocco
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 11:56:49
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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On Jul 16, 12:19 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <rcousine-7ECCB8.23045315072...@news.telus.net>,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > In article <9iarm4-l54....@wm.reippuert.dk>,
> > Morten Reippuert Knudsen<s...@reippuert.dk> wrote:
>
> > > Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> > > > shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
>
> > > Chorus and Record are stil non-indexed
>
> > Yeah, but I'm cheaper than that.
>
> > Actually, I'm okay for the forseeable future, since I have my road and
> > CX bikes set up as 9-speed, using the old-der trick to run Campy
> > shifters over Shimano cassettes on my (currently borked) road bike.
>
> Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few Shimano
> wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with Campy so I modified
> the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano wheels on my
> Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
Or just use a shimano 9s cogset..works well with Campag 10s ERGO...
>
> --
> tanx,
> Howard
>
> Never take a tenant with a monkey.
>
> remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 11:55:36
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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On Jul 15, 9:47 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <CKymi.46552$5j1.8...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> > > $4000? Heck, on a good day you could buy a used PORSCHE 928 for that! No
> > > carbon, but much faster.
>
> > The Porsche is heavier. I'd go with the bike.
>
> The Watts/kg are unbeatable. As long as petrol isn't a WADA-proscribed
> substance, you're golden.
>
> > > My comment is that posers will be more impressed by the Bianchi than the
> > > Specialized. My own predjudice is also towards Campy drivetrains, but I
> > > just really like the shifters.
>
> > My pick: put SRAM Rival on a frame which fits, add Speedplay pedals (I use
> > X/2), Thompson seatpost, a saddle and handlebar (I like the Salsa Poco) which
> > fits, Performance Forte 4-bolt stem.
>
> Regarding the pedals, I understand that some people come to Speedplays
> because no other pedal works well for them, but my own predjudice,
> after using SPD, Look (Delta), and Crank Bros., is to go for walkable
> pedal designs, and two-sided entry.
>
> Even on a racing bike, there's no downside for most people. I think the
> bare Egg Beater design is lighter than virtually any other non-stupid*
> pedal design, and I ended up choosing it this year (over my previous
> SPD/Look options) because I craved a pedal that would not give me
> trouble during CX races. Maybe I chould have just gone for the newer SPD
> designs, which are more open, but the conventional CX wisdom is that you
> either use ATAC or Crank Bros.
>
> *stupid pedal designs: Keywin (no automatic clip-out), Ti spindle, and
> my personal predjudice against non-walkable pedals.
>
> > Pick your wheels.
>
> > You're in well under $4k. This combo, with old wheels, came in at 18 lb even
> > with a Ritchey Breakaway steel frame for me with a relatively heavy Powertap
> > rear wheel, pedals included.
> > P.S. SRAM Rival is trivially heavier than Force, which is lighter than
> > Dura-Ace, with the same functionality as Force. The hoods are comfortable,
> > the shifting intuitive, and the quick shift from the hooks is nice. The
> > 50/34 or 36 with an 11-26 rear gives a nice range of options. And it doesn't
> > suffer from the cross-chaining hassles of FSA+Shimano.
>
> I think you mentioned some months ago that you had the SRAM group. Any
> new observations? I really like the positive (read: heavier) feel of
> Campy mechs, and my Veloces just chunk through the shifts. Also, as a
> confirmed lunatic, I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
ONly on Centaur and below(don't like it either)..BUT Chorus and Record
left shifters remain the same, even with 'QS' on the lever. BTW-for
2008, a single FD for all Campag double chainring systems. No more CT
or 'standard', just one design..good idea..once more reducing SKUs is
a good thing. PLUS a carbon crank option for Centaur..still have
aluminum(which is one nice crank).
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 17:19:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <Jim.Tocco.dfc900@cyclebanter.com >,
Jim Tocco <Jim.Tocco.dfc900@cyclebanter.com > wrote:
> I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the price
> range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bikes I
> may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would be
> appreciated!!
$4000? Heck, on a good day you could buy a used PORSCHE 928 for that! No
carbon, but much faster.
My comment is that posers will be more impressed by the Bianchi than the
Specialized. My own predjudice is also towards Campy drivetrains, but I
just really like the shifters.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 09:17:23
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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in message <rcousine-7AC758.10194915072007@news.telus.net >, Ryan Cousineau
('rcousine@sfu.ca') wrote:
> My comment is that posers will be more impressed by the Bianchi than the
> Specialized. My own predjudice is also towards Campy drivetrains, but I
> just really like the shifters.
Therein lies the truth. These days, there's a lot more difference between a
Shimano bike and a Campagnolo bike than between a Bianchi and a
Specialized.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 00:13:22
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> $4000? Heck, on a good day you could buy a used PORSCHE 928 for that! No
> carbon, but much faster.
The Porsche is heavier. I'd go with the bike.
>
> My comment is that posers will be more impressed by the Bianchi than the
> Specialized. My own predjudice is also towards Campy drivetrains, but I
> just really like the shifters.
>
My pick: put SRAM Rival on a frame which fits, add Speedplay pedals (I use X/2), Thompson seatpost, a saddle and handlebar (I like the Salsa Poco) which fits, Performance Forte 4-bolt stem.
Pick your wheels.
You're in well under $4k. This combo, with old wheels, came in at 18 lb even with a Ritchey Breakaway steel frame for me with a relatively heavy Powertap rear wheel, pedals included.
Dan
P.S. SRAM Rival is trivially heavier than Force, which is lighter than Dura-Ace, with the same functionality as Force. The hoods are comfortable, the shifting intuitive, and the quick shift from the hooks is nice. The 50/34 or 36 with an 11-26 rear gives a nice range of options. And it doesn't suffer from the cross-chaining hassles of FSA+Shimano.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 03:47:31
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <CKymi.46552$5j1.8280@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net >,
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> > $4000? Heck, on a good day you could buy a used PORSCHE 928 for that! No
> > carbon, but much faster.
>
> The Porsche is heavier. I'd go with the bike.
The Watts/kg are unbeatable. As long as petrol isn't a WADA-proscribed
substance, you're golden.
> > My comment is that posers will be more impressed by the Bianchi than the
> > Specialized. My own predjudice is also towards Campy drivetrains, but I
> > just really like the shifters.
> >
>
> My pick: put SRAM Rival on a frame which fits, add Speedplay pedals (I use
> X/2), Thompson seatpost, a saddle and handlebar (I like the Salsa Poco) which
> fits, Performance Forte 4-bolt stem.
Regarding the pedals, I understand that some people come to Speedplays
because no other pedal works well for them, but my own predjudice,
after using SPD, Look (Delta), and Crank Bros., is to go for walkable
pedal designs, and two-sided entry.
Even on a racing bike, there's no downside for most people. I think the
bare Egg Beater design is lighter than virtually any other non-stupid*
pedal design, and I ended up choosing it this year (over my previous
SPD/Look options) because I craved a pedal that would not give me
trouble during CX races. Maybe I chould have just gone for the newer SPD
designs, which are more open, but the conventional CX wisdom is that you
either use ATAC or Crank Bros.
*stupid pedal designs: Keywin (no automatic clip-out), Ti spindle, and
my personal predjudice against non-walkable pedals.
> Pick your wheels.
>
> You're in well under $4k. This combo, with old wheels, came in at 18 lb even
> with a Ritchey Breakaway steel frame for me with a relatively heavy Powertap
> rear wheel, pedals included.
> P.S. SRAM Rival is trivially heavier than Force, which is lighter than
> Dura-Ace, with the same functionality as Force. The hoods are comfortable,
> the shifting intuitive, and the quick shift from the hooks is nice. The
> 50/34 or 36 with an 11-26 rear gives a nice range of options. And it doesn't
> suffer from the cross-chaining hassles of FSA+Shimano.
I think you mentioned some months ago that you had the SRAM group. Any
new observations? I really like the positive (read: heavier) feel of
Campy mechs, and my Veloces just chunk through the shifts. Also, as a
confirmed lunatic, I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 17:10:06
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <CKymi.46552$5j1.8280@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote:
>> My pick: put SRAM Rival on a frame which fits, add Speedplay pedals (I use
>> X/2), Thompson seatpost, a saddle and handlebar (I like the Salsa Poco) which
>> fits, Performance Forte 4-bolt stem.
>
> Regarding the pedals, I understand that some people come to Speedplays
> because no other pedal works well for them, but my own predjudice,
> after using SPD, Look (Delta), and Crank Bros., is to go for walkable
> pedal designs, and two-sided entry.
>
> Even on a racing bike, there's no downside for most people. I think the
> bare Egg Beater design is lighter than virtually any other non-stupid*
> pedal design, and I ended up choosing it this year (over my previous
> SPD/Look options) because I craved a pedal that would not give me
> trouble during CX races. Maybe I chould have just gone for the newer SPD
> designs, which are more open, but the conventional CX wisdom is that you
> either use ATAC or Crank Bros.
Speedplay are 2-sided, which is key (to me). Speedplays have better cornering clearance, and get the foot closer to the pedal axle, than Egg-beaters, AFAIK.
Walkable pedals are nice -- I use Speedplay Frogs for touring and commuting. I wouldn't use the Frogs for racing, though, as they're thicker (& heavier, but that's less of a factor).
>> You're in well under $4k. This combo, with old wheels, came in at 18 lb even
>> with a Ritchey Breakaway steel frame for me with a relatively heavy Powertap
>> rear wheel, pedals included.
If you're itching to drop the full $4k, get a power meter, save the $6/gram marginal costs for higher budgets.
>
> I think you mentioned some months ago that you had the SRAM group. Any
> new observations? I really like the positive (read: heavier) feel of
> Campy mechs, and my Veloces just chunk through the shifts. Also, as a
> confirmed lunatic, I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
>
I admit the shifting hasn't been as crisp as my 9-speed Dura-Ace, BUT I think this is from the cable couplers on my Ritchey Breakaway. I intend to try it without using the cable couplers at some point, to see if it improves things: test bikes I've ridden with SRAM shifted great.
The 34-50 jump on the front isn't going to be as quick as a 39-53 jump. For racing I'd go with the 36.
I really do like the Rival, though, overall. I'm not sure about the external crank bearings in comparison to the Octalink 9-speed, but that's a universal issue at this point. Maybe it'll be better with the 2008 generation (Trek, Specialized) of oversized bottom brackets. I suspect custom builders will be offering this as well.
Dan
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 06:59:21
From: Morten Reippuert Knudsen
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
Chorus and Record are stil non-indexed
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk >
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 06:04:52
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <9iarm4-l54.ln1@wm.reippuert.dk >,
Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> > shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
>
> Chorus and Record are stil non-indexed
Yeah, but I'm cheaper than that.
Actually, I'm okay for the forseeable future, since I have my road and
CX bikes set up as 9-speed, using the old-der trick to run Campy
shifters over Shimano cassettes on my (currently borked) road bike.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 23:19:04
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <rcousine-7ECCB8.23045315072007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <9iarm4-l54.ln1@wm.reippuert.dk>,
> Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> > > shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
> >
> > Chorus and Record are stil non-indexed
>
> Yeah, but I'm cheaper than that.
>
> Actually, I'm okay for the forseeable future, since I have my road and
> CX bikes set up as 9-speed, using the old-der trick to run Campy
> shifters over Shimano cassettes on my (currently borked) road bike.
Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few Shimano
wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with Campy so I modified
the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano wheels on my
Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 16:49:06
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <YOURhoward-8F9FEA.23190415072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com >,
Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <rcousine-7ECCB8.23045315072007@news.telus.net>,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > In article <9iarm4-l54.ln1@wm.reippuert.dk>,
> > Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk> wrote:
> >
> > > Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I find many uses for the not-really-indexed front
> > > > shifters (which alas, have disappeared with the new Quickshift design).
> > >
> > > Chorus and Record are stil non-indexed
> >
> > Yeah, but I'm cheaper than that.
> >
> > Actually, I'm okay for the forseeable future, since I have my road and
> > CX bikes set up as 9-speed, using the old-der trick to run Campy
> > shifters over Shimano cassettes on my (currently borked) road bike.
>
> Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few
> Shimano
> wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with Campy so I
> modified
> the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano wheels on my
> Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
Now I'm interested: What was the mod?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 19:11:20
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <rcousine-0F0072.09490516072007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <YOURhoward-8F9FEA.23190415072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few
> > Shimano wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with Campy so
> > I modified the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano wheels
> > on my Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
>
> Now I'm interested: What was the mod?
It involves taking out (of the lever) the spool that the cable winds onto and
machining the profile (which isn't completely round so it's a CNC mill job). It's a
bit of a hassle but I think it was well worth it to be able to use the existing
wheels and somewhat less expensive Shimano cassettes.
I can say that Campy 8 shifters/der. will work perfectly on Shimano 8 cassettes -
the overall stack height (center to center) is only .004" different between C8 and
S8. No problems there. So if you came across some mid '90s 8 speed stuff you can mix
and match to your heart's content.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 05:18:39
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <YOURhoward-67084D.19112016072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com >,
Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <rcousine-0F0072.09490516072007@news.telus.net>,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > In article <YOURhoward-8F9FEA.23190415072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> > Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
> > > Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few
> > > Shimano wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with
> > > Campy so
> > > I modified the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano
> > > wheels
> > > on my Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
> >
> > Now I'm interested: What was the mod?
>
> It involves taking out (of the lever) the spool that the cable winds onto
> and
> machining the profile (which isn't completely round so it's a CNC mill job).
> It's a
> bit of a hassle but I think it was well worth it to be able to use the
> existing
> wheels and somewhat less expensive Shimano cassettes.
>
> I can say that Campy 8 shifters/der. will work perfectly on Shimano 8
> cassettes -
> the overall stack height (center to center) is only .004" different between
> C8 and
> S8. No problems there. So if you came across some mid '90s 8 speed stuff you
> can mix
> and match to your heart's content.
I do the 9-speed Campy new-shifter/old-der thing to shift Shimano 9
cassettes with Campy 9 shifters.
Best compatibility matrices I've seen on indexed drivetrain mixing:
http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=3946
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 17:48:01
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-0F0072.09490516072007@news.telus.net...
> In article <YOURhoward-8F9FEA.23190415072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
>>
>> Campy 10 cassettes are about 5% wider than Shimano 10 and I had a few
>> Shimano
>> wheels that I didn't feel like getting rid of or re-lacing with Campy so
>> I
>> modified
>> the lever to move less cable. So now I can use those Shimano wheels on my
>> Campy-equipped bike. I like the feel of Campy levers.
>
> Now I'm interested: What was the mod?
I'm betting it was this:
http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 23:17:42
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> I'm betting it was this:
>
> http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm
>
>
Do they make that in titanium or carbon fiber?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 09:11:39
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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In article <Jim.Tocco.dfc900@cyclebanter.com >, Jim.Tocco.dfc900
@cyclebanter.com says...
>
> I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the price
> range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bikes I
> may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would be
> appreciated!!
No question in my mind. None.
Go with the Bianchi for sure.
I ride a Bianchi and I love it. It's an older steel model but it's
excellent. I'm looking to replace it with something newer and there's
no question in my mind that it will be a Bianchi when I get it. (I have
down tube shifters/quill stem/etc. Would really like more modern gear,
but that being said, I'm having a hard time moving away from the old
thing. I call it my '55 Chevy bike. CLASSIC!)
Bianchi:
Excellent quality.
Excellent history.
Amazing engineering.
The 928 just can't be beat.
Enjoy your new Bianchi!
-Bob
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 21:44:10
From: Jim Tocco
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Hell and High Water;1520231 Wrote:
> In article Jim.Tocco.dfc900@cyclebanter.com, Jim.Tocco.dfc900
> @cyclebanter.com says...-
>
> I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the price
> range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bike
> I
> may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would be
> appreciated!!-
>
> No question in my mind. None.
>
>
> Go with the Bianchi for sure.
>
>
> I ride a Bianchi and I love it. It's an older steel model but it's
> excellent. I'm looking to replace it with something newer and there'
>
> no question in my mind that it will be a Bianchi when I get it. (
> have
> down tube shifters/quill stem/etc. Would really like more modern gear
>
> but that being said, I'm having a hard time moving away from the old
> thing. I call it my '55 Chevy bike. CLASSIC!)
>
>
> Bianchi:
>
> Excellent quality.
>
> Excellent history.
>
> Amazing engineering.
>
> The 928 just can't be beat.
>
>
> Enjoy your new Bianchi!
>
>
> -Bob
To Those of you who posted - Just want to say "thank you" for takin
the time to share your thoughts! --
Ji
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Jim Tocco
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 12:56:10
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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On Jul 15, 5:52 am, Jim Tocco <Jim.Tocco.dfc...@cyclebanter.com >
wrote:
> I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the price
> range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bikes I
> may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would be
> appreciated!!
>
> --
> Jim Tocco
Pick the one that fits the best and comes from the best bike shop.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 14:30:41
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: $4K Bike: Specialized Pro or Bianchi 928 Carbon?
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Jim Tocco schreef:
> I am considering one of these two bikes as they fall into the price
> range of what I want to spend. Any comments on these, or other bikes I
> may consider around the same dollar value? Any comments would be
> appreciated!!
Standard replies:
1. Which fits best?
2. Will you be racing them?
3. Ask in r.b.tech.
--
E. Dronkert
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