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Date: 14 Mar 2007 12:03:51
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Subject: Aero Bike Positioning
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I've ridden a road bike for years and this winter upgraded to a Tri-
Specific bike. Leaning over the bars is natural, although it hurts my
neck after a while and the power I feel after my T2 is really nice.
I'm weaving a bit all over the road, but I'm thinking with practice
that'll straighten out.
My question is, with my hands gripping the aero bars and the shifters
on the bar ends, and my fingers readily moving them up and down. At
what position should my perenium and the two Ischium bones be on the
saddle? What is the proper position? I have a Quintana Roo Tri
saddle that came with the bike, and it seems to be slightly
uncomfortable at times. I also have some bike shorts with a nice gel
chomois that helps.
Is there anyone out there that can show me pictures exactly of the
butt to saddle position I need. Most pics I see of people in the Aero
position are from the side and never up close and of the back, or the
picture is of someone sprinting in the aggressive position.
Any help would be great, thanks.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:28:25
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 17, 3:44 pm, Simon Brooke <s...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
> in message <45f85bc6$0$331$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>, Ewoud Dronkert
>
> ('firstn...@lastname.net.invalid') wrote:
> > Robert Chung wrote:
> >> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
> >> saddle position you need.
>
> > I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
> >http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> Interesting cleat system she's using. I wonder if those shoes will catch on
> with the Masters Fatty.
If not, Little Chubby will surely like them.
R
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 20:32:31
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15, 8:03 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
> > asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
> > that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
>
> > This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
> > fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
>
> > Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
>
> > R
>
> Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
> a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
> was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
> angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
> exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
> you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
> ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
> ideas?
www.slowtwitch.com
I don't think you can expect to achieve the same
level of butt comfort in a full-on aero position
as in a standard road position. That is one reason
roadies ride TT bikes for an hour tops and road bikes
for 5-hour rides/races. (The other being that you
don't need an aero position for mass start races,
but I digress). I guess that's why they call it
an Ironman. Anyway, the slowtwitch guy has about
a zillion ideas. I think there is some paticular
saddle that a lot of tri-geeks prefer.
Ben
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 08:52:44
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15, 11:03 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 15, 10:26 am, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
> > > over female Glutes.
>
> > If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.
>
> > Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
> > asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
> > that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
>
> > This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
> > fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
>
> > Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
>
>
> Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
> a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
> was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
> angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
> exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
> you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
> ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
> ideas?
If someone was fitting you for a different style of riding than what
you asked for, it wasn't a professional fitting.
You are attempting to isolate one specific element of the fit and that
just doesn't work. There are a lot of factors and they are all inter-
related. For all I know you could be shaped like a fire hydrant with
feet or you could be all arms and legs. If you get the precise
theoretical measurements and angles for that perfect fit, it means
nothing without taking into account your riding style and
measurements. Please don't post your measurements.
> By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
> I had no idea. How rude of me.
>
> Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
> here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
> path through the biking world.
I've already given you my advice. If you can't, or won't, spend the
time to tinker with your own fit, then you have no choice but to
locate a shop that is familiar with tri fitting. It may involve
effort to get there.
If you're lucky, maybe Henry will weigh in and provide the respect as
I'm fresh out. ;)
R
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 08:03:26
From:
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15, 10:26 am, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
> > over female Glutes.
>
> If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.
>
> Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
> asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
> that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
>
> This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
> fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
>
> Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
>
> R
Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
ideas?
By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
I had no idea. How rude of me.
Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
path through the biking world.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:11:23
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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in message <1173971006.485713.177010@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
retardedbrother@gmail.com ('retardedbrother@gmail.com') wrote:
> Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
> a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
> was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
> angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
> exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
> you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
> ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
> ideas?
If you want a serious answer (and if you do you've some to the wrong place)
I personally have to tilt my saddle down about five degrees (and raise it
about 7mm) when I've got tribars on the bike vs when I haven't. Obviously
this is personal but the adjustment you have to make will be of this
general nature.
Oh, and, word to the wise - don't use your tribars when descending a hill
on a twisty road you aren't familiar with. Do not ask how I know this.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; All in all you're just another hick in the mall
-- Drink C'lloid
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 11:39:20
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15 2007 08:03:26 -0700, retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
>On 15, 10:26 am, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
>> > over female Glutes.
>>
>> If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.
>>
>> Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
>> asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
>> that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
>>
>> This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
>> fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
>>
>> Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
>>
>> R
>
>Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
>a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
>was road bike fitting.
Wow, where I live almost all the bike shops do everything possible to suck in
the tri business. Y'all pay way more for bikes than most of us.
> But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
>angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
>exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
>you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
>ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
>ideas?
Others pointed out and I'll repeat, we won't do that to ourselves, at least not
for more than an hour at a time. The phrase most commonly associated with time
trialing is "assume the position." It's uncomfortable and unpleasant and mostly
avoidable.
Anyway, you might as well ask someone to snug your shoes correctly. This is far
too personal for anyone else to help you with.
My assumption is that you're more or less mechanically inept, otherwise you'd
just ride with a wrench and stop and tweak until you got it sorted out as good
as it is going to get.
>By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
>I had no idea. How rude of me.
Now you need to go forgive yourself.
>Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
>here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
>path through the biking world.
What respect. The cycling world's got no respect. None. Kinda not good, but
kinda the way it's always been.
Ron
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 19:49:41
From: KC
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
> On 15, 10:26 am, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>> On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
>>> over female Glutes.
>> If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.
>>
>> Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
>> asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
>> that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
>>
>> This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
>> fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
>>
>> Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
>>
>> R
>
> Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
> a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
> was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
> angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
> exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
> you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
> ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
> ideas?
>
>
> By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
> I had no idea. How rude of me.
>
> Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
> here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
> path through the biking world.
>
DUDE! Get a clue. Why are you on RBR when rec.sport.triathlon is so
much more suited to your question? This group is NOT about triathlons
in any way, shape or form. (unless her form is quite pleasing, then
we're all about that!)
As Steve so gently put it yesterday:
GO TO REC.SPORT.TRIATHLON
If your news server doesn't have that group, go to google groups.
-KC
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 16:45:01
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
> here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
> path through the biking world.
>
You wanted respect? Boy, did you come to the wrong newsgroup!
Seriously, we've been pretty well behaved in this thread. Everyone
realizes that you don't know that "Dumbass" is a perfectly civil
salutation, and so they've avoided it. What more do you want?
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 10:18:03
From: Dave
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
> here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
> path through the biking world.
>
Retard,
rbr is not the place to look for respect
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 20:11:27
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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Dave <nobody@dev.null > wrote in news:etbv4g01boq@news5.newsguy.com:
> retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
>> here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
>> path through the biking world.
>>
>
> Retard,
>
> rbr is not the place to look for respect
He was hoping you would address him as "dumbass" -- for a retard that IS
respect.
NS
dumbass
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 13:27:38
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On Thu, 15 2007 10:18:03 -0700, Dave <nobody@dev.null > wrote:
>Retard,
>
>rbr is not the place to look for respect
You can look for it all you want - the trick is to not expect to find
it.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 07:26:57
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
> Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
> over female Glutes.
If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.
Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.
This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
fitting can be done online!" from this site:
http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221
Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
R
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 15:31:10
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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In article <1173968817.051670.77320@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 15, 10:08 am, retardedbrot...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
> > over female Glutes.
> Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.
And rather disquieting.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 07:08:56
From:
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.
On 15, 9:26 am, Curtis L. Russell <cur...@md-bicycling.org > wrote:
> On 15 2007 06:06:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> >wrote:
> >> On 15 2007 05:37:44 -0700, ilan wrote:
>
> >> >>http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> >> > Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?
>
> >> Yes. I'll pump for free.
>
> >After leaving a deposit, no doubt.
>
> >R
>
> No doubt your humanitarianism and generosity will leave some choked
> up.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 19:55:42
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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retardedbrother wrote:
> Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
> over female Glutes.
Dumbass,
We don't snigger, we drool.
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 10:35:32
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15 2007 07:08:56 -0700, retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
>
>Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
>over female Glutes.
OK, never have the seat where you hit your knees on the handlebars -
it hurts when you sprint, or so I've heard. I only sprinted when it
looked like the motor was about to wave me off the course.
BTW, we've never had a thread on the finely developed ability to ride
badly, yet always make the 'wave off' cut. My greatest experience was
the well of pride when I looked back and saw the CJ wave off the guys
just behind me. You do it three or four times in the same crit and you
can actually get cheers. A rider the crowd can identify with...
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 15:43:47
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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In article <46miv2pk1kupapvc1236602vrgel67gjdf@4ax.com >, Curtis L. Russell
<curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:
> BTW, we've never had a thread on the finely developed ability to ride
> badly, yet always make the 'wave off' cut. My greatest experience was
> the well of pride when I looked back and saw the CJ wave off the guys
> just behind me. You do it three or four times in the same crit and you
> can actually get cheers. A rider the crowd can identify with...
It would be even better if the crowd gave primes for the person who
*just* misses being pulled.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 06:06:35
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> On 15 2007 05:37:44 -0700, ilan wrote:
>
> >>http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> > Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?
>
> Yes. I'll pump for free.
After leaving a deposit, no doubt.
R
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 09:26:37
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15 2007 06:06:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com >
wrote:
>On 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
>wrote:
>> On 15 2007 05:37:44 -0700, ilan wrote:
>>
>> >>http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>>
>> > Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?
>>
>> Yes. I'll pump for free.
>
>After leaving a deposit, no doubt.
>
>R
No doubt your humanitarianism and generosity will leave some choked
up.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 05:37:44
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 14, 9:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
> > position you need.
>
> I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> Sorry, no new material.
>
> --
> E. Dronkert
Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?
-ilan
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 13:58:36
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 15 2007 05:37:44 -0700, ilan wrote:
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?
Yes. I'll pump for free.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 05:36:55
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 14, 11:25 pm, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 14, 4:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Robert Chung wrote:
> > > I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
> > > position you need.
>
> > I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> Okay, I need a little help here. I read one and a half languages and
> French ain't one of them. Can someone verify my translation of part
> of that ad for me?
> Here's what it says, with my guess as to what it means in parentheses:
>
> couleurs au choix
> ("chocolate ass" - certainly looks sweet enough to me)
> hauteur
> ("hot" - no shit?)
> longueur
> ("loooong" - referring to the legs no doubt)
> inclinasion a la demande
> (that's either "reclines on demand" (please, God, let it be so!) or
> "inclined to be demanding")
> prise de cotes comprise
> ("willing to compromise on the price" or "everything is
> included" (either one works for me))
>
> I would suggest that someone take an old saddle, preferably stained,
> fake up a COA signed by the lovely lady in that ad, and auction it off
> on eBay. Send me 10%. Thanks for any assistance.
>
> R
Also "avec raccords" which means you get to negotiate bondage.
-ilan
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 19:33:05
From: Steve Freides
Subject: Re: Aero Bike Positioning
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<retardedbrother@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1173899031.951262.99170@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> I've ridden a road bike for years and this winter upgraded to a Tri-
> Specific bike. Leaning over the bars is natural, although it hurts my
> neck after a while and the power I feel after my T2 is really nice.
> I'm weaving a bit all over the road, but I'm thinking with practice
> that'll straighten out.
> My question is, with my hands gripping the aero bars and the shifters
> on the bar ends, and my fingers readily moving them up and down. At
> what position should my perenium and the two Ischium bones be on the
> saddle? What is the proper position? I have a Quintana Roo Tri
> saddle that came with the bike, and it seems to be slightly
> uncomfortable at times. I also have some bike shorts with a nice gel
> chomois that helps.
>
> Is there anyone out there that can show me pictures exactly of the
> butt to saddle position I need. Most pics I see of people in the Aero
> position are from the side and never up close and of the back, or the
> picture is of someone sprinting in the aggressive position.
>
> Any help would be great, thanks.
Ask on rec.sport.triathlon, not here.
-S-
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 15:25:30
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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On 14, 4:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
> > position you need.
>
> I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
Okay, I need a little help here. I read one and a half languages and
French ain't one of them. Can someone verify my translation of part
of that ad for me?
Here's what it says, with my guess as to what it means in parentheses:
couleurs au choix
("chocolate ass" - certainly looks sweet enough to me)
hauteur
("hot" - no shit?)
longueur
("loooong" - referring to the legs no doubt)
inclinasion a la demande
(that's either "reclines on demand" (please, God, let it be so!) or
"inclined to be demanding")
prise de cotes comprise
("willing to compromise on the price" or "everything is
included" (either one works for me))
I would suggest that someone take an old saddle, preferably stained,
fake up a COA signed by the lovely lady in that ad, and auction it off
on eBay. Send me 10%. Thanks for any assistance.
R
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 13:15:13
From:
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert (was: Aero Bike Positioning)
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>
> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
> position you need.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 16:22:19
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert (was: Aero Bike Positioning)
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On 14 2007 13:15:13 -0700, retardedbrother@gmail.com wrote:
>?
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>> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
>> position you need.
He would have given you the picture already, but he is trying to
recover from the description of road bike --- > Tribike : upgrade.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 00:43:39
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert (was: Aero Bike Positioning)
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I bet if Andy Hampsten upgraded his bike like that he'd have lost that
stage in the snow over the Gavia.
Robert Chung wrote:
>>> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
>>> saddle position you need.
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> He would have given you the picture already, but he is trying to
> recover from the description of road bike ---> Tribike : upgrade.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 20:39:18
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Paging Mr. Dronkert (was: Aero Bike Positioning)
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> Is there anyone out there that can show me pictures exactly of the
> butt to saddle position I need.
I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 21:31:55
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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Robert Chung wrote:
> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
> position you need.
I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
Sorry, no new material.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:44:20
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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in message <45f85bc6$0$331$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >, Ewoud Dronkert
('firstname@lastname.net.invalid') wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
>> saddle position you need.
>
> I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
Interesting cleat system she's using. I wonder if those shoes will catch on
with the Masters Fatty.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; L'etat c'est moi -- Louis XVI
;; I... we... the Government -- Tony Blair
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 16:09:11
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <45f85bc6$0$331$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>, Ewoud Dronkert
> ('firstname@lastname.net.invalid') wrote:
>
>> Robert Chung wrote:
>>> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
>>> saddle position you need.
>> I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
>> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
> Interesting cleat system she's using. I wonder if those shoes will catch on
> with the Masters Fatty.
>
What, you don't have yours yet? Mine draw envious comments everywhere I go.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 21:42:30
From: Jay S. Hill
Subject: Re: Paging Mr. Dronkert
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>> I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
>> saddle position you need.
>
> I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg
>
Someone should track her down and see what she looks like now.
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