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Date: 06 Jul 2007 11:07:07
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
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Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties,
nations and epochs, it is the rule. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 01:24:14
From: Keith
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:07:07 +0200, Davey Crockett
<d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > wrote:
>
>ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
>year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
>probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
>
>http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
such a shame LA never got caught, they should have turned down his
"after the fact" prescription in 1999 and that would have been the end
of it, I guess they didn't want another scandal like in 1998.
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 01:01:39
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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In article
<838093p53ibd4jr9d1rk30laoe2h8ol14d@4ax.com >,
Keith <nospam@nospam.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:07:07 +0200, Davey Crockett
> <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
> >year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
> >probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
> >
> >http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
>
> such a shame LA never got caught, they should have turned down his
> "after the fact" prescription in 1999 and that would have been the end
> of it, I guess they didn't want another scandal like in 1998.
I enjoy watching you agonize over all the injustice.
All the filthy dopers getting away with it is
exactly the misery due to you.
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Michael Press
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:54:42
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <838093p53ibd4jr9d1rk30laoe2h8ol14d@4ax.com>,
> Keith <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:07:07 +0200, Davey Crockett
>> <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
>>> year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
>>> probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
>>>
>>> http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
>> such a shame LA never got caught, they should have turned down his
>> "after the fact" prescription in 1999 and that would have been the end
>> of it, I guess they didn't want another scandal like in 1998.
>
> I enjoy watching you agonize over all the injustice.
> All the filthy dopers getting away with it is
> exactly the misery due to you.
>
This is one of those "You do it to yourself, you do / And that's what
really hurts" kind of things.
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 10:23:55
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> This is one of those "You do it to yourself, you do / And that's what
> really hurts" kind of things.
He's hoping the Karma Police will get them.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 15:58:18
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Jul 7, 6:40 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote:
> Bill C wrote:
> > On Jul 7, 5:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> benjo maso wrote:
> >>>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champio=
n=2E The
> >>>> second is Jean-Pierre Monser=E9.
> >> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> >>> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
> >> And Armstrong may 'correct' it back. Come to think of it I'd love to s=
ee
> >> Lemond working on the Lemond page or Lafferty doing the Armstrong one.
>
> > Why does the term "Meltdown" come to mind? How about Lemond working on
> > the Lance page, and vice versa.
> > We'll just leave the "riders" page to Pound and Brian. Figure they
> > could keep it to one paragraph:
> > "They're all lieing, cheating, doping, scumbags. Some who've already
> > been caught and those we will catch."
>
> Now Bill. They aren't all dopers. Even Hein Verbruggen realized this
> when he said there were at most 5% bad apples. :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
There's a reason why "Heinie" is a colloquialism for "ass". ;-)
Bill C
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 22:08:19
From:
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Jul 7, 11:27 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
> > The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. =
The
> > second is Jean-Pierre Monser=E9.
>
> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
>
> --
> E. Dronkert
My Wikipedia experience is that someone always erases contributions
within 5 minutes, no matter how much more you know on the subject.
-ilan
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 02:22:35
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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In article <1183846099.187946.299480@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
ilanpsi@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 7, 11:27 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> wrote:
> > benjo maso wrote:
> > > The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
> > > second is Jean-Pierre Monser?.
> >
> > I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
> >
> > --
> > E. Dronkert
>
> My Wikipedia experience is that someone always erases contributions
> within 5 minutes, no matter how much more you know on the subject.
>
> -ilan
Well, someone should fix this entry so it is internally consistent,
Dronkert! Right now it has Kaers winning the Worlds at 21 in the first
para, and at 20 in the second para.
I assume 20 is the right age.
Can I get a ruling?
Also, that "frequently by Armstrong himself" should be pulled unless
there's a cite.
Best edit war ever:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jobstbrandt#Regarding_edits_made_t
o_Brake_fade
"Jobst, are you edit-warring with a bot? That is a useless occupation, I
think, but who knows."
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 21:31:58
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> Well, someone should fix this entry so it is internally consistent,
> Dronkert! Right now it has Kaers winning the Worlds at 21 in the first
> para, and at 20 in the second para.
Ah yes. didn't touch any of that text. Please do as you feel inclined
(That'll probably turn out to be: pouring yourself another glass of
great 15yr-old single malt. I'm doing it now.)
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 14:35:29
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Jul 7, 5:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
> >> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion.=
The
> >> second is Jean-Pierre Monser=E9.
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
>
> And Armstrong may 'correct' it back. Come to think of it I'd love to see
> Lemond working on the Lemond page or Lafferty doing the Armstrong one.
Why does the term "Meltdown" come to mind? How about Lemond working on
the Lance page, and vice versa.
We'll just leave the "riders" page to Pound and Brian. Figure they
could keep it to one paragraph:
"They're all lieing, cheating, doping, scumbags. Some who've already
been caught and those we will catch."
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:50:39
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Bill C wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> benjo maso wrote:
>>>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
>>>> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
>> And Armstrong may 'correct' it back. Come to think of it I'd love to see
>> Lemond working on the Lemond page or Lafferty doing the Armstrong one.
>
> Why does the term "Meltdown" come to mind? How about Lemond working on
> the Lance page, and vice versa.
> We'll just leave the "riders" page to Pound and Brian. Figure they
> could keep it to one paragraph:
> "They're all lieing, cheating, doping, scumbags. Some who've already
> been caught and those we will catch."
>
That's not fair.
Last July, Brian was absolutely clear and repetitively persistent about
his belief that the TdF was clean and all the doping "robots" were gone.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 22:40:41
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Bill C wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:29 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> benjo maso wrote:
>>>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
>>>> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
>> And Armstrong may 'correct' it back. Come to think of it I'd love to see
>> Lemond working on the Lemond page or Lafferty doing the Armstrong one.
>
> Why does the term "Meltdown" come to mind? How about Lemond working on
> the Lance page, and vice versa.
> We'll just leave the "riders" page to Pound and Brian. Figure they
> could keep it to one paragraph:
> "They're all lieing, cheating, doping, scumbags. Some who've already
> been caught and those we will catch."
>
Now Bill. They aren't all dopers. Even Hein Verbruggen realized this
when he said there were at most 5% bad apples. :-)
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 13:48:15
From:
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>
> > ilanpsi wrote:
> >> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>
> > He mistook you for Lafferty.
>
> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have been
> separated at birth.
The truth must be told!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 22:55:34
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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<shayana.kadidal@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>
>> > ilanpsi wrote:
>> >> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>>
>> > He mistook you for Lafferty.
>>
>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have been
>> separated at birth.
>
> The truth must be told!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
"In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road champion when
he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
Benjo
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:31:08
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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benjo maso wrote:
>
> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road champion when
> he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
>
> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>
Even more research and you may be able to push him off the podium.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:27:57
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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benjo maso wrote:
> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 23:51:25
From: Tony Rall
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
>> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>
> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
It still needs some work. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers:
"Karel Kaers (Vosselaar, 3 June 1914 - Antwerp, 20 December 1972) was a
professional cyclist, with thirty wins to his name. In 1934 he became
the youngest world road champion in history, winning in Leipzig at age
21. He also won the Tour of Flanders in 1939, and the Belgian national
championship in 1937.
"Lance Armstrong is frequently and incorrectly described (often by
Armstrong himself) as the youngest-ever world champion. In fact, he
became only the third-youngest world road champion when he took the
rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993. Armstrong was two weeks short of 22 when
he won in Oslo; Kaers had just turned 20. Jean-Pierre Monseré was still
21 in 1970 when became world champion in Leicester on August 16th."
It's self contradictory (saying Kaers won at 21 and 20) and also unclear
(saying Armstrong was 21 and likewise Monseré). On top of that, the
entry for Monseré says that he is the youngest!
I have no idea what the facts are here.
--
Tony Rall
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:29:15
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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benjo maso wrote:
>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road champion. The
>> second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> I corrected the entry. (Everyone can, after creating an account.)
And Armstrong may 'correct' it back. Come to think of it I'd love to see
Lemond working on the Lemond page or Lafferty doing the Armstrong one.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:25:21
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>
>>>> ilanpsi wrote:
>>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>>>
>>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
>>>
>>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
>>> been separated at birth.
>>
>> The truth must be told!
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
>
>
> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
> champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
>
> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
> champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>
> Benjo
You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
--
Sandy
Ce n'est pas que j'ai peur de la mort.
Je veux seulement ne pas être là
quand elle arrivera.
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 00:57:40
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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In article <469004c1$0$30136$426a74cc@news.free.fr >,
"Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr > wrote:
> Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
> benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> > <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> >>>
> >>>> ilanpsi wrote:
> >>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
> >>>
> >>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
> >>> been separated at birth.
> >>
> >> The truth must be told!
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
> >
> >
> > "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
> > champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
> >
> > The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
> > champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
> >
> > Benjo
>
> You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
> I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
Probably because there isn't a word for it en Français.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 00:23:45
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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"Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr > wrote in message
news:469004c1$0$30136$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
> benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>>
>>>>> ilanpsi wrote:
>>>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>>>>
>>>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
>>>> been separated at birth.
>>>
>>> The truth must be told!
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
>>
>>
>> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
>> champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
>>
>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
>> champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>>
>> Benjo
>
> You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
> I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
I'm not trying to an argument. I was only hoping that Armstrong will put me
on his black list
Benjo
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 02:24:51
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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In article <5fai3eF3begohU1@mid.individual.net >,
"benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote:
> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
> news:469004c1$0$30136$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> > Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
> > benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> >> <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>> ilanpsi wrote:
> >>>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
> >>>>
> >>>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
> >>>> been separated at birth.
> >>>
> >>> The truth must be told!
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
> >>
> >>
> >> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
> >> champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
> >>
> >> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
> >> champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
> >>
> >> Benjo
> >
> > You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
> > I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
>
>
> I'm not trying to an argument. I was only hoping that Armstrong will put me
> on his black list
>
> Benjo
No, you want to be on his Blackberry list. Didn't you read your Danny
Coyle?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 04:36:17
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-837A8E.19245307072007@news.telus.net...
> In article <5fai3eF3begohU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
>> news:469004c1$0$30136$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>> > Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
>> > benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> >> <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> >>> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> >>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>
>> >>>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> ilanpsi wrote:
>> >>>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
>> >>>> been separated at birth.
>> >>>
>> >>> The truth must be told!
>> >>>
>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
>> >> champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
>> >>
>> >> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
>> >> champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>> >>
>> >> Benjo
>> >
>> > You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
>> > I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
>>
>>
>> I'm not trying to an argument. I was only hoping that Armstrong will put
>> me
>> on his black list
>>
>> Benjo
>
> No, you want to be on his Blackberry list. Didn't you read your Danny
> Coyle?
Yes I did, probably better than anyone else in Holland ... But I'm already
satisfied with a place on the blacklist of Armstrong & Bruyneel
Benjo
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Date: 08 Jul 2007 17:51:00
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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benjo maso wrote:
> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-837A8E.19245307072007@news.telus.net...
>> In article <5fai3eF3begohU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
>>> news:469004c1$0$30136$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>>>> Dans le message de news:5facu3F3bu1h5U1@mid.individual.net,
>>>> benjo maso <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>>>>> <shayana.kadidal@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1183841295.600511.189380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On Jul 7, 12:02 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ilanpsi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>>>>>>>> He mistook you for Lafferty.
>>>>>>> Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have
>>>>>>> been separated at birth.
>>>>>> The truth must be told!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Kaers
>>>>>
>>>>> "In fact he [Armstrong] became the second-youngest world road
>>>>> champion when he took the rainbow jersey in Oslo in 1993".
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth is that Armstrong is the third-youngest world road
>>>>> champion. The second is Jean-Pierre Monseré.
>>>>>
>>>>> Benjo
>>>> You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
>>>> I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to an argument. I was only hoping that Armstrong will put
>>> me
>>> on his black list
>>>
>>> Benjo
>> No, you want to be on his Blackberry list. Didn't you read your Danny
>> Coyle?
>
>
> Yes I did, probably better than anyone else in Holland ... But I'm already
> satisfied with a place on the blacklist of Armstrong & Bruyneel
>
> Benjo
A badge of honor.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 23:27:36
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Sandy wrote:
> You are trying to win an argument here based on historical facts?
> I would never have used the word naïve until now ......
Well you can't win on accurate historical facts. Perhaps the alternate
universe historical facts might work.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 16:02:47
From:
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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On Jul 6, 11:07 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
> year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
> probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
>
> http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
>
> --
> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> -
> Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties,
> nations and epochs, it is the rule. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Armstrong must be reading my messages here, because he made the same
remarks about why Prudhomme didn'
t ask Virenque, Thevenet, etc., for their jerseys back.
-ilan
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 21:34:01
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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ilanpsi wrote:
> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
He mistook you for Lafferty.
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Date: 07 Jul 2007 04:02:25
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:468e996f$0$5579$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> ilanpsi wrote:
>> Armstrong must be reading my messages here,
>
> He mistook you for Lafferty.
Yeah, Ilan and Brian look so much like each other they must have been
separated at birth.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 10:42:42
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Davey Crockett wrote:
> ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
> year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
> probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
>
> http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
>
Quoting Armstrong, the self-proclaimed youngest rider to win the World
Championship RR:
"Armstrong, speaking at the Aspen Ideas Festival, said the arbitrators
never rule for the athletes, The Aspen Times reports."
Never??
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 14:12:58
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Dans le message de news:C0pji.7790$4e5.7359@trndny07,
Brian Lafferty <blafferty@nowhere.com > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> Davey Crockett wrote:
>> ASPEN, Colo. (AP) - Austinite Lance Armstrong says he believes last
>> year's Tour de France winner Floyd Landis didn't dope but will
>> probably lose his arbitration case against the US Anti-Doping Agency.
>>
>> http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6748112&nav=Bsmj
>>
>
> Quoting Armstrong, the self-proclaimed youngest rider to win the World
> Championship RR:
> "Armstrong, speaking at the Aspen Ideas Festival, said the arbitrators
> never rule for the athletes, The Aspen Times reports."
>
> Never??
Never the youngest.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 13:16:05
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Armstrong: Flandis Innocent
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Brian Lafferty schreef:
> Armstrong, the self-proclaimed youngest rider to win the World
> Championship RR:
But he isn't, is he? :rolleyes:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/db3ab30e8d1cda2f
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E. Dronkert
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