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Date: 09 May 2007 09:05:20
From: gds
Subject: Attempting to race
I now have the perfect reason for my consistently por race reesults.

You see I have been only attempting to race.





 
Date: 09 May 2007 16:54:38
From: gds
Subject: Re: Attempting to race
On May 9, 4:39 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:03:43 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> >In article <1178726720.656670.271...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> > gds <gary_j...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >> I now have the perfect reason for my consistently por race reesults.
>
> >> You see I have been only attempting to race.
>
> >The only thing that makes me think Basso may be sincere is that he has
> >also publicly acknowledged that "attempting to dope" is the same as
> >doping from a disciplinary point of view.
>
> >But might it have implications for previous finishes if he admitted he
> >had previously doped? So this might be his lame excuse to explain why he
> >gets to keep his previous, """clean"""* finishes.
>
> >*ain't enough scare quotes in all of Usenet...
>
> Yet another reason why real sports don't change the outcome of an event based on
> lab results or evidence uncovered later.
>
> No one will ever admit to anything on this basis.
>
> Ron- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Isn't this why they invented the asterick ;-)

When body building divided into doped and clean categories the doped
guys were much bigger. If we adopt this for cycling it will be the
opposite.



 
Date: 09 May 2007 19:03:43
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Attempting to race
In article <1178726720.656670.271130@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
gds <gary_jill@msn.com > wrote:

> I now have the perfect reason for my consistently por race reesults.
>
> You see I have been only attempting to race.

The only thing that makes me think Basso may be sincere is that he has
also publicly acknowledged that "attempting to dope" is the same as
doping from a disciplinary point of view.

But might it have implications for previous finishes if he admitted he
had previously doped? So this might be his lame excuse to explain why he
gets to keep his previous, """clean"""* finishes.

*ain't enough scare quotes in all of Usenet...

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


  
Date: 09 May 2007 19:39:19
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Attempting to race
On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:03:43 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:

>In article <1178726720.656670.271130@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> gds <gary_jill@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I now have the perfect reason for my consistently por race reesults.
>>
>> You see I have been only attempting to race.
>
>The only thing that makes me think Basso may be sincere is that he has
>also publicly acknowledged that "attempting to dope" is the same as
>doping from a disciplinary point of view.
>
>But might it have implications for previous finishes if he admitted he
>had previously doped? So this might be his lame excuse to explain why he
>gets to keep his previous, """clean"""* finishes.
>
>*ain't enough scare quotes in all of Usenet...

Yet another reason why real sports don't change the outcome of an event based on
lab results or evidence uncovered later.

No one will ever admit to anything on this basis.

Ron






  
Date: 09 May 2007 23:33:49
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Attempting to race
>> You see I have been only attempting to race.
>
> The only thing that makes me think Basso may be sincere is that he has
> also publicly acknowledged that "attempting to dope" is the same as
> doping from a disciplinary point of view.
>
> But might it have implications for previous finishes if he admitted he
> had previously doped? So this might be his lame excuse to explain why he
> gets to keep his previous, """clean"""* finishes.

Which means there is a HUGE difference between saying he "attempted" to dope
vs actually doing so, regardless of the immediate disciplinary consequences.
If he can make a case that he attempted, but didn't actually dope, then his
past victories aren't tainted and likely to be taken away.

It may actually be true that he didn't dope, but it's a terribly convenient
(and easy, in light of a lack of positive doping controls) thing to claim.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA