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Date: 27 Jul 2007 20:00:32
From: ctrl-alt-delete
Subject: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 18:54:08
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Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 28, 9:54 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > Howard Kveck wrote: > > He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! > > Sounds like something a fatty master would test positive for. Little Chocolate Donuts.
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 05:24:50
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 28, 8:14 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote: > On Jul 28, 6:33 am, Jeff Jones <drjone...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jul 28, 11:23 am, H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Actually, it doesn't say that at all (and I can read Dutch). And as > > > far as I know only the yellow jersey gets a daily doping test, not > > > the others. Besides, Soler wasn't even wearing the polka-dot jersey at > > > that time; he was just substituting for Rasmussen who then led both > > > the General and KoM rankings. > > > It's a strangely written story. It points towards Soler as the > > positive rider, while at the same time saying he wasn't tested. That's because it smells of a smear campaign. > SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO > BREAKFAST CEREAL I like cocoa, aka cacao, but I've never tried it on cereal. Now if you'd said coca, that would be different. R
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 12:14:47
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 28, 6:33 am, Jeff Jones <drjone...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Jul 28, 11:23 am, H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 28 jul, 11:13, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> > > wrote: > > > > H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com> writes: > > > > On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > >>http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > > > > The article says that Soler was not among the riders controlled after > > > > the 14th stage, namely Rasmussen, Contador, Valverde, Verdugo, > > > > Schleck, Valjavec, Le Mevel and Scheirlinckx. So how could it be him? > > > > The article says that in _addition_ to the Jerseys those riders were > > > controlled > > > Actually, it doesn't say that at all (and I can read Dutch). And as > > far as I know only the yellow jersey gets a daily doping test, not > > the others. Besides, Soler wasn't even wearing the polka-dot jersey at > > that time; he was just substituting for Rasmussen who then led both > > the General and KoM rankings. > > It's a strangely written story. It points towards Soler as the > positive rider, while at the same time saying he wasn't tested. > > I ain't heard nothing more yet. > > Jeff- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO BREAKFAST CEREAL
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 08:02:29
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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In article <1185624887.780099.21830@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >, datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote: > SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO > BREAKFAST CEREAL He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 16:21:34
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:02:29 -0700, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote: >In article <1185624887.780099.21830@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO >> BREAKFAST CEREAL > > He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! The second bowl is the best. Ron
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 18:09:20
From: Mark
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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RonSonic wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:02:29 -0700, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> > wrote: > >> In article <1185624887.780099.21830@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO >>> BREAKFAST CEREAL >> He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! > > The second bowl is the best. Now, Ron, I'll believe you if you tell me you've got a TUE for one bowl, but there is no therapeutic reason for the second bowl - you're clearly into PED territory there. Mark J.
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 22:27:36
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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In article <CZSdnWt-gP1ddTbbnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com >, Mark <remove.mandmlj.this@remove.comcast.this.net > wrote: > RonSonic wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:02:29 -0700, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> > > wrote: > > > >> In article <1185624887.780099.21830@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > >> datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> SOLER IS FROM COLUMBIA WHERE COCOA IS GROWN AND PROCESSED INTO > >>> BREAKFAST CEREAL > >> He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! > > > > The second bowl is the best. > > Now, Ron, I'll believe you if you tell me you've got a TUE for one bowl, > but there is no therapeutic reason for the second bowl - you're clearly > into PED territory there. That is not the second bowl he is talking about. -- Michael Press
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 17:54:05
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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Howard Kveck wrote: > He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! Sounds like something a fatty master would test positive for.
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 21:39:58
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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Howard Kveck wrote: > He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! Ahhhhh Someone has read, or reads, Calvin and Hobbes. Bill
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 16:55:16
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On 07/28/2007 03:39 PM, in article OIOqi.11757$eY.6627@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net, "William R. Mattil" <wrmattil@ix.netcom.com > wrote: > > Howard Kveck wrote: >> He tested positive for Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs? Alright! > > Ahhhhh Someone has read, or reads, Calvin and Hobbes. Good God ... Hasn't EVERYONE????? -- Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 10:33:30
From: Jeff Jones
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 28, 11:23 am, H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com > wrote: > On 28 jul, 11:13, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> > wrote: > > > H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com> writes: > > > On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> > > > wrote: > > >>http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > > > The article says that Soler was not among the riders controlled after > > > the 14th stage, namely Rasmussen, Contador, Valverde, Verdugo, > > > Schleck, Valjavec, Le Mevel and Scheirlinckx. So how could it be him? > > > The article says that in _addition_ to the Jerseys those riders were > > controlled > > Actually, it doesn't say that at all (and I can read Dutch). And as > far as I know only the yellow jersey gets a daily doping test, not > the others. Besides, Soler wasn't even wearing the polka-dot jersey at > that time; he was just substituting for Rasmussen who then led both > the General and KoM rankings. It's a strangely written story. It points towards Soler as the positive rider, while at the same time saying he wasn't tested. I ain't heard nothing more yet. Jeff
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 03:23:03
From: H Jonkers
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On 28 jul, 11:13, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com > wrote: > H Jonkers <fh...@yahoo.com> writes: > > On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > >>http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > > The article says that Soler was not among the riders controlled after > > the 14th stage, namely Rasmussen, Contador, Valverde, Verdugo, > > Schleck, Valjavec, Le Mevel and Scheirlinckx. So how could it be him? > > The article says that in _addition_ to the Jerseys those riders were > controlled Actually, it doesn't say that at all (and I can read Dutch). And as far as I know only the yellow jersey gets a daily doping test, not the others. Besides, Soler wasn't even wearing the polka-dot jersey at that time; he was just substituting for Rasmussen who then led both the General and KoM rankings.
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 01:51:01
From: H Jonkers
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com > wrote: > http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 The article says that Soler was not among the riders controlled after the 14th stage, namely Rasmussen, Contador, Valverde, Verdugo, Schleck, Valjavec, Le Mevel and Scheirlinckx. So how could it be him?
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 11:13:56
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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H Jonkers <fha_j@yahoo.com > writes: > On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > The article says that Soler was not among the riders controlled after > the 14th stage, namely Rasmussen, Contador, Valverde, Verdugo, > Schleck, Valjavec, Le Mevel and Scheirlinckx. So how could it be him? > The article says that in _addition_ to the Jerseys those riders were controlled -- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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Date: 27 Jul 2007 22:50:33
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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ctrl-alt-delete wrote: > http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 That would leave Contador in dots. This could be the first time since 1969 that a single rider took all the jerseys. There are only 11 riders ahead of him on points. It'd be tough, but I think WADA's up to it. I guess Discovery is the only completely clean team. Bob Schwartz
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 12:12:34
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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Bob Schwartz wrote: > > I guess Discovery is the only completely clean team. > Shhhhhh...... Don't let the French know or that could change. Bill
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 17:34:15
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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Bob Schwartz wrote: > I guess Discovery is the only completely clean team. I hope that irony grokking shields are "up".
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Date: 27 Jul 2007 18:42:06
From: DirtRoadie
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 27, 2:00 pm, "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com > wrote: > http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 The story has not been confirmed, but it has been echoed (in English) @: http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=46aae148186ff48d&ei=5ZuqRpOhMYG0pgL34YS7Bg&url=http%3A//www.cyclingpost.com/tour/article_005202.shtml&cid=1118539508 (This may be an example of no additional sources, but confirmation merely by repetition - "It's on the Internet, it must be true") DR
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Date: 27 Jul 2007 14:33:16
From: shane
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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It means nothing until you see it in L'equipe.. raam...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 27, 4:14 pm, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> > wrote: > > "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> writes: > > >http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > > > Another Hero for the Wall of Shame > > > > -- > > Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply > > babelfish translation: > There a new doping matter in gestation in the tour seems the France. > After the fourteenth stage with arrival on plateau the Beille were > decreased according to several sources a positive urine test. That > then after Vinokourov and Moreni the third positive case in the tour > would be. > > It would concern Mauricio Soler, the drager of the bolletjestrui. At > this moment there is an irruption of the French police force in the > hotel of Barloworld to pace communicates our Danish colleagues of BT. > But we could not get that confirmed. Tomorrow at 11 o'clock there is > anyway a press conference. > > The rumour which Soler positively would be has already looked after > that bookmakers in United Kingdom and Italy have crossed out him.
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Date: 27 Jul 2007 13:35:03
From:
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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On Jul 27, 4:14 pm, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com > wrote: > "ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-del...@hotmail.com> writes: > >http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > Another Hero for the Wall of Shame > > -- > Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply babelfish translation: There a new doping matter in gestation in the tour seems the France. After the fourteenth stage with arrival on plateau the Beille were decreased according to several sources a positive urine test. That then after Vinokourov and Moreni the third positive case in the tour would be. It would concern Mauricio Soler, the drager of the bolletjestrui. At this moment there is an irruption of the French police force in the hotel of Barloworld to pace communicates our Danish colleagues of BT. But we could not get that confirmed. Tomorrow at 11 o'clock there is anyway a press conference. The rumour which Soler positively would be has already looked after that bookmakers in United Kingdom and Italy have crossed out him.
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Date: 27 Jul 2007 22:14:29
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS Soler got caught
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"ctrl-alt-delete" <ctrl-alt-delete@hotmail.com > writes: > http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_537132.html?wt.bron=homeArt1 > > Another Hero for the Wall of Shame -- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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