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Date: 15 Jun 2007 23:21:24
From: Keith
Subject: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Basso got what he deserved http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss too bad he might be the only one. I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty important to me.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 20:50:02
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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In article <3j0673p8scldhipavjfmffck41m3vrkbm2@4ax.com >, Keith <nospam@nospam.com > wrote: >Basso got what he deserved >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >too bad he might be the only one. >I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >important to me. _ The Pro Tour is dead. It won't matter in 2 years. He'll have a lifetime ban from the new "ASO" league and the UCI will be trying to use it's "olympic" charter for skateboarding to ban people from the X-games. _ Booker C. Bense
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 07:25:03
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 19, 9:45 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote: > > You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or > motorcycles but posts forever on those groups. > > As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance > was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I > claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he > went fast. > > Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make > it all the more plain why you're such a loser? Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it. You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again. Thanks. R
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 01:20:29
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote in message news:1182263103.892376.161170@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 19, 9:45 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or >> motorcycles but posts forever on those groups. >> >> As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance >> was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I >> claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he >> went fast. >> >> Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make >> it all the more plain why you're such a loser? > > Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it. > You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again. Even after you explain what happened to them they're still too stupid to understand it. Everyone loved Indurain. So if you accuse Indurain of doping they're incensed. Yet the same rooster-lipping children of unmarried mothers jump at accusing Armstrong of the same thing and are too stupid to even notice it.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 00:03:29
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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In article <xh%di.6102$tb6.4330@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message > news:1182263103.892376.161170@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > > On Jun 19, 9:45 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or > >> motorcycles but posts forever on those groups. > >> > >> As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance > >> was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I > >> claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he > >> went fast. > >> > >> Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make > >> it all the more plain why you're such a loser? > > > > Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it. > > You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again. > > Even after you explain what happened to them they're still too stupid to > understand it. > > Everyone loved Indurain. So if you accuse Indurain of doping they're > incensed. Yet the same rooster-lipping children of unmarried mothers jump at > accusing Armstrong of the same thing and are too stupid to even notice it. But that isn't what you did, Tom. In no way can those words be made to conform to what you're saying they do now. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 13:45:42
From:
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 18, 11:05 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote: > In article <FXIdi.2697$ZY1.1...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > "jean-yves herv=E9" <j...@cs.uri.edu> wrote in message > >news:jyh-3507EB.23053918062007@news.lga.highwinds-media.com... > > > In article <woFdi.1867$W_6.1...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > > > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > >> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1182203104.103895.248530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > >> > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it wa= s a > > >> > minor problem? > > > >> How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to > > >> accuse > > >> anyone without proof? > > > > Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted > > > about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain > > > doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation th= at > > > he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for > > > the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is: > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thre.= .=2E > > > 22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=3Dst&q=3D&rnum=3D6#c1eae7b387bc16= 1a > > > > Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one. > > > You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that y= ou > > were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on r= umors > > and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors. > > Ah, poor old Tom, always misunderstood. How hard is it to understand t= his: > __________________________________________ > > Early Indurain was easily superior because of a certain amount of, shall = we > say, discreet help from medical practitioners. Later when the playing fie= ld > was leveled with availability of that drug to anyone with a wallet his wi= ns > stilled showed his superiority but at the same sort of levels that Lance = has > shown on an equally flat playing field. > __________________________________________ > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/dec3896539fa9ac5 > > That *is* accusing Indurain without proof, Tommy. No two ways about it. You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or motorcycles but posts forever on those groups. As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he went fast. Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make it all the more plain why you're such a loser?
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 14:45:04
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 16, 4:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote: > Bob Schwartz wrote: > > Brian Lafferty wrote: > >> Keith wrote: > >>> Basso got what he deserved > >>>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from... > > >>> too bad he might be the only one. > >>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until > >>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty > >>> important to me. > > >> Any comment from Armstrong? > > > Yeah. He says you're a retard. > > > The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug > problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat > doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a minor problem?
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 00:26:04
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com > wrote in message news:1182203104.103895.248530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 16, 4:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote: >> Bob Schwartz wrote: >> > Brian Lafferty wrote: >> >> Keith wrote: >> >>> Basso got what he deserved >> >>>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from... >> >> >>> too bad he might be the only one. >> >>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. >> >>> until >> >>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >> >>> important to me. >> >> >> Any comment from Armstrong? >> >> > Yeah. He says you're a retard. >> >> >> The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug >> problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat >> doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! > > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a > minor problem? How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to accuse anyone without proof?
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 23:05:40
From: jean-yves hervé
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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In article <woFdi.1867$W_6.1737@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message > news:1182203104.103895.248530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a > > minor problem? > > How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to accuse > anyone without proof? Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9 22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one. jyh.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 04:28:21
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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"jean-yves hervé" <jyh@cs.uri.edu > wrote in message news:jyh-3507EB.23053918062007@news.lga.highwinds-media.com... > In article <woFdi.1867$W_6.1737@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message >> news:1182203104.103895.248530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a >> > minor problem? >> >> How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to >> accuse >> anyone without proof? > > Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted > about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain > doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that > he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for > the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is: > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9 > 22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a > > Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one. You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that you were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on rumors and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors. LeMond cried his whole racing career about how everyone was picking on him and he hasn't stopped yet. I like LeMond but I wouldn't give any credibility to anything he had to say. I much prefer Indurain's method of saying what's done is done and what is past is past.
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 23:05:08
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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In article <FXIdi.2697$ZY1.1106@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "jean-yves hervé" <jyh@cs.uri.edu> wrote in message > news:jyh-3507EB.23053918062007@news.lga.highwinds-media.com... > > In article <woFdi.1867$W_6.1737@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > > > >> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com> wrote in message > >> news:1182203104.103895.248530@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >> > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a > >> > minor problem? > >> > >> How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to > >> accuse > >> anyone without proof? > > > > Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted > > about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain > > doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that > > he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for > > the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is: > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9 > > 22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a > > > > Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one. > > You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that you > were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on rumors > and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors. Ah, poor old Tom, always misunderstood. How hard is it to understand this: __________________________________________ Early Indurain was easily superior because of a certain amount of, shall we say, discreet help from medical practitioners. Later when the playing field was leveled with availability of that drug to anyone with a wallet his wins stilled showed his superiority but at the same sort of levels that Lance has shown on an equally flat playing field. __________________________________________ http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/dec3896539fa9ac5 That *is* accusing Indurain without proof, Tommy. No two ways about it. Flip. Flop. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 05:29:00
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 16, 4:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote: > Bob Schwartz wrote: > > Brian Lafferty wrote: > > >> Any comment from Armstrong? > > > Yeah. He says you're a retard. > > > Bob Schwartz > > The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug > problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat > doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! I shouldn't ask, but what would you expect Armstrong to say? - "I knew Basso must be doping, otherwise he never could have rivaled my puissance" - "Sorry to hear about this, I guess that makes me first and virtual second in 2005" - "Ha ha, now the ASO doesn't dare retroactively take away one of my TdF titles" - "I'm shocked, shocked that our Discovery Channel team had a doper on it" - "Oh by the way, I doped too, but I was too smart to get caught" As a lawyer, why would you expect Armstrong to say something in a matter that he is not a party to? Ben
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 00:24:56
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote in message news:1182144540.086899.97380@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 16, 4:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote: > > As a lawyer, why would you expect Armstrong to say something > in a matter that he is not a party to? Yeah, life someone would trust Lafferty to represent them anyplace but in a gay bathhouse.
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Date: 16 Jun 2007 17:38:30
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 16, 7:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote: > > The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug > problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat > doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! People who choose not to share in your man-crush on Lance are not retards. Grown men that write ROTFLMAO are retards. It seems you never took my well-intentioned advice for you to come up with a Plan B. It's a shame. You'd be much happier and less of a sphincter. R
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Date: 17 Jun 2007 00:55:14
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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RicodJour wrote: > On Jun 16, 7:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote: >> The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug >> problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat >> doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! > > People who choose not to share in your man-crush on Lance are not > retards. > > Grown men that write ROTFLMAO are retards. I suppose a retard like you would know. > > It seems you never took my well-intentioned advice for you to come up > with a Plan B. It's a shame. You'd be much happier and less of a > sphincter. Now that's funny. Off to the Comedy Shop with you. > > R > >
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Date: 15 Jun 2007 15:50:56
From: billyroll
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Jun 15, 2:45 pm, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote: > Keith wrote: > > Basso got what he deserved > >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from... > > too bad he might be the only one. > > I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until > > 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty > > important to me. > > Any comment from Armstrong? Who in the office pool had 14 minutes before Lafferty tied the first BASSO post to LANCE? -B
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Date: 15 Jun 2007 21:45:52
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Keith wrote: > Basso got what he deserved > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss > too bad he might be the only one. > I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until > 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty > important to me. Any comment from Armstrong?
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Date: 15 Jun 2007 20:39:26
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Brian Lafferty wrote: > Keith wrote: >> Basso got what he deserved >> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >> too bad he might be the only one. >> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >> important to me. > > Any comment from Armstrong? Yeah. He says you're a retard. Bob Schwartz
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Date: 16 Jun 2007 23:25:50
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Bob Schwartz wrote: > Brian Lafferty wrote: >> Keith wrote: >>> Basso got what he deserved >>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >>> >>> too bad he might be the only one. >>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >>> important to me. >> >> Any comment from Armstrong? > > Yeah. He says you're a retard. > > Bob Schwartz The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 13:09:23
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Brian Lafferty wrote: > The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug > problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. Dumbass, Its not that "rbr denizens" didn't know about drug use, its just that we don't really care all that much.
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 15:37:39
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:09:23 +0200, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote: >Brian Lafferty wrote: >> The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug >> problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. > >Dumbass, >Its not that "rbr denizens" didn't know about drug use, its just that we >don't really care all that much. Pretty much it. Doped or clean it's a great sport. The worst thing about doping is the way it makes some anti-dopers act. That thing about rewriting the record book; stupid on a galactic scale. Calling everybody who doesn't completely share your huff and puff rage a retard; somewhat less stupid. Ron
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Date: 16 Jun 2007 23:58:35
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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"Brian Lafferty" <blafferty@nowhere.com > wrote in message news:2k_ci.596$u65.152@trndny07... > Bob Schwartz wrote: >> Brian Lafferty wrote: >>> Keith wrote: >>>> Basso got what he deserved >>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >>>> too bad he might be the only one. >>>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >>>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >>>> important to me. >>> >>> Any comment from Armstrong? >> >> Yeah. He says you're a retard. >> >> Bob Schwartz > > The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug > problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat > doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! More lies from the moron who believes because no one wanted to play his silly games that we all were blind, deaf and dumb. And for the record - you would accuse Jesus Christ of being a doper without a qualm on the value of the fact that he liked wine.
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Date: 17 Jun 2007 00:53:51
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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Tom Kunich wrote: > "Brian Lafferty" <blafferty@nowhere.com> wrote in message > news:2k_ci.596$u65.152@trndny07... >> Bob Schwartz wrote: >>> Brian Lafferty wrote: >>>> Keith wrote: >>>>> Basso got what he deserved >>>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >>>>> too bad he might be the only one. >>>>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >>>>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >>>>> important to me. >>>> Any comment from Armstrong? >>> Yeah. He says you're a retard. >>> >>> Bob Schwartz >> The only retards are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug >> problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat >> doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!! > > More lies from the moron who believes because no one wanted to play his > silly games that we all were blind, deaf and dumb. > > And for the record - you would accuse Jesus Christ of being a doper without > a qualm on the value of the fact that he liked wine. :-)
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Date: 16 Jun 2007 22:18:14
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?
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"Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in message news:kbHci.19677$C96.19255@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... > Brian Lafferty wrote: >> Keith wrote: >>> Basso got what he deserved >>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss >>> too bad he might be the only one. >>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until >>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty >>> important to me. >> >> Any comment from Armstrong? > > Yeah. He says you're a retard. Yeah, Lance always has it pegged dead center.
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