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Date: 04 May 2007 15:45:39
From: Bret
Subject: Best sandbagging thread ever
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http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
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Date: 05 May 2007 21:53:33
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 5, 9:32 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <1178399948.763499.93...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
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> Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The reason CS stands out in my memory is that the situation led to an
> > attempt to pass legislation at the ACA annual meeting targeting his
> > specific circumstances.
>
> What are his specific circumstancs that made the ACA want to pass
> legislation that is aimed at him - is it just that he seriously
> outclasses the rest of the field?
Any club can submit legislation. I don't recall the details, but it
was some form of anti-sandbagging legislation. Everyone knew it was
about CS dominating the 3's that season. Lots of people argued for and
against. It was voted down.
Bret
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Date: 05 May 2007 14:19:08
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 5, 2:54 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote:
> On May 5, 11:56 am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On May 5, 6:56 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 5, 12:59 am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > > > On May 4, 11:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
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> > > > > > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> > > > > Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> > > > > so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> > > > > you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> > > > > of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> > > > > few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> > > > > because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> > > > > their perspective is.
>
> > > > > Bret
>
> > > > Was it TJ or Alex? Both great kids.
> > > > Bill C- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
>
> > It may have happened with him too, but I was thinking of Chris
> > Stockburger.
>
> > Bret- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Just the fact that we came up with 4 different possibilities that
> quich say a lot for the racing and development that's happening out
> there.
> Good stuff.
> Bill C
It's going to continue. We're seeing huge junior fields this year:
http://americancycling.org/results/2007/april/golden-spring.html
The reason CS stands out in my memory is that the situation led to an
attempt to pass legislation at the ACA annual meeting targeting his
specific circumstances.
Bret
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Date: 05 May 2007 20:32:37
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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In article <1178399948.763499.93780@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote:
> The reason CS stands out in my memory is that the situation led to an
> attempt to pass legislation at the ACA annual meeting targeting his
> specific circumstances.
What are his specific circumstancs that made the ACA want to pass
legislation that is aimed at him - is it just that he seriously
outclasses the rest of the field?
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 05 May 2007 19:07:41
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On 5 May 2007 14:19:08 -0700, Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote:
>It's going to continue. We're seeing huge junior fields this year:
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>http://americancycling.org/results/2007/april/golden-spring.html
>
>The reason CS stands out in my memory is that the situation led to an
>attempt to pass legislation at the ACA annual meeting targeting his
>specific circumstances.
I think there is some resurgence of junior racing right now -- at
least around where I am there are fields ranging from OK to good (20
to 60 kids) at a bunch of events as opposed to stupid sized (less than
10).
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JT
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Date: 05 May 2007 13:54:42
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 5, 11:56 am, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 5, 6:56 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> > On May 5, 12:59 am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 4, 11:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> > > > > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> > > > Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> > > > so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> > > > you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> > > > of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> > > > few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> > > > because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> > > > their perspective is.
>
> > > > Bret
>
> > > Was it TJ or Alex? Both great kids.
> > > Bill C- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
>
> It may have happened with him too, but I was thinking of Chris
> Stockburger.
>
> Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Just the fact that we came up with 4 different possibilities that
quich say a lot for the racing and development that's happening out
there.
Good stuff.
Bill C
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Date: 05 May 2007 08:56:38
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 5, 6:56 am, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 5, 12:59 am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 11:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> > > > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> > > Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> > > so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> > > you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> > > of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> > > few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> > > because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> > > their perspective is.
>
> > > Bret
>
> > Was it TJ or Alex? Both great kids.
> > Bill C- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
It may have happened with him too, but I was thinking of Chris
Stockburger.
Bret
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Date: 05 May 2007 05:56:39
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 5, 12:59 am, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote:
> On May 4, 11:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> > > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> > Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> > so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> > you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> > of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> > few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> > because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> > their perspective is.
>
> > Bret
>
> Was it TJ or Alex? Both great kids.
> Bill C- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
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Date: 05 May 2007 19:05:49
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On 5 May 2007 05:56:39 -0700, Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com >
wrote:
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>No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
Oh good, w/o any evidence whatsover people can start claiming some
sort of favoritism for him or something. Great.
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Date: 06 May 2007 04:56:58
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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In article <cd3q33dqk542pm6n8ptgi3j1e00dj12rrl@4ax.com >,
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:
> On 5 May 2007 05:56:39 -0700, Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >No, Taylor Phinney. Seems he selected his parents a little too well.
>
> Oh good, w/o any evidence whatsover people can start claiming some
> sort of favoritism for him or something. Great.
Well, clearly this helps make the case for genetic testing.
Though I'd say the paternity isn't in doubt...
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 04 May 2007 23:59:59
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 4, 11:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> their perspective is.
>
> Bret
Was it TJ or Alex? Both great kids.
Bill C
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Date: 04 May 2007 22:36:38
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 4, 8:44 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> > Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
>
> Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
> so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
> you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
> of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
> few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
> because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
> their perspective is.
Dumbass -
Like I said: Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 04 May 2007 20:44:13
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 4, 8:44 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
Well, it's a forum where the rule is that everyone posts anonymously,
so nobody tends to hold back on the opinions. But I don't see where
you get egomania, just a lot of over reaction. There's always a subset
of Cat 3's that think they're being held back by unfair competition. A
few years back they tried to run a 16 year old kid up to the 2's
because they were having trouble competing with him. That's how skewed
their perspective is.
Bret
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Date: 04 May 2007 19:44:10
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 4, 3:45 pm, Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
Goddamm. What a bunch of egomaniacs.
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Date: 04 May 2007 19:09:26
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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On May 4, 5:54 pm, Casey Kerrigan <c...@caseykerrigan.com > wrote:
> In article <1178318739.816348.281...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Bret <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
>
> Turns out the guy isn't a sandbagger, he just has an ability to get
> into a Pro/1 or Pro/1/2 race when he only has a cat 3 license ( or no
> license at all)
That's what makes it the best sandbagger thread ever.
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Date: 04 May 2007 16:54:07
From: Casey Kerrigan
Subject: Re: Best sandbagging thread ever
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In article <1178318739.816348.281520@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
Bret <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote:
> http://www.tetoncycling.com/forum/display_message.asp?mid=21746
Turns out the guy isn't a sandbagger, he just has an ability to get
into a Pro/1 or Pro/1/2 race when he only has a cat 3 license ( or no
license at all)
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