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Date: 24 Jun 2007 11:04:16
From: Burt
Subject: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shitter-when-i-read.html
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 17:46:03
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 4:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Burt wrote:
> > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> > Dumbass,
>
> > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
>
> Innocent people don't settle.
Smart ones do. Settle doesn't mean anything other than coming to an
arrangement that both can live with. Please note that neither party
will be 100% happy with the arrangement. That is a good thing.
Frequently this involves gag orders and the like, since people don't
want other people to know how much they had to give up to make the
thing go away. That way both sides can claim victory.
The alternative is to do what you do - get on your high horse and make
chest-thumping sounds on Usenet about matters that don't involve you.
Whatever floats your boat.
R
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 17:20:26
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 7:07 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Burt wrote:
> > > > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> > > > Dumbass,
>
> > > > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> > > > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> > > > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> > > > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
> > > > Bob Schwartz
>
> > > Assface,
>
> > > Innocent people don't settle.
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > That's not true.
>
> > Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times even
> > innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
> > costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to settle.
>
> > A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's something
> > like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
> > the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
> > file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything at
> > trial.
>
> > thanks,
>
> > K. Gringioni.
>
> Assface,
>
> You have a good point, so I'll rephrase.
>
> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
> neither.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Your mom- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
And after you're living in a homeless shelter and all the high priced
lawyers have abandoned you, you can wax righteous. Standard corporate
tactic, keep it tied up in expensive litigation until the other side
runs out of funds. Been pretty successful.
Bill C
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 17:07:54
From: bar
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 7:07 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Burt wrote:
> > > > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> > > > Dumbass,
>
> > > > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> > > > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> > > > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> > > > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
> > > > Bob Schwartz
>
> > > Assface,
>
> > > Innocent people don't settle.
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > That's not true.
>
> > Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times even
> > innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
> > costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to settle.
>
> > A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's something
> > like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
> > the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
> > file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything at
> > trial.
>
> > thanks,
>
> > K. Gringioni.
>
> Assface,
>
> You have a good point, so I'll rephrase.
>
> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
> neither.
Is that why LANCE never settles?
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 10:05:13
From: Frank Drackman
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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"bar" <barbaricia@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1182730074.853905.97030@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 7:07 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > Burt wrote:
>> > > > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>>
>> > > > Dumbass,
>>
>> > > > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
>> > > > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>>
>> > > > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
>> > > > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>>
>> > > > Bob Schwartz
>>
>> > > Assface,
>>
>> > > Innocent people don't settle.
>>
>> > Dumbass -
>>
>> > That's not true.
>>
>> > Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times even
>> > innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
>> > costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to settle.
>>
>> > A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's something
>> > like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
>> > the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
>> > file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything at
>> > trial.
>>
>> > thanks,
>>
>> > K. Gringioni.
>>
>> Assface,
>>
>> You have a good point, so I'll rephrase.
>>
>> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
>> neither.
>
> Is that why LANCE never settles?
You are kidding me...right?
>
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 16:09:54
From: Burt
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 7:07 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Burt wrote:
> > > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> > > Dumbass,
>
> > > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> > > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> > > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> > > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
> > > Bob Schwartz
>
> > Assface,
>
> > Innocent people don't settle.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> That's not true.
>
> Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times even
> innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
> costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to settle.
>
> A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's something
> like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
> the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
> file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything at
> trial.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.
Assface,
You have a good point, so I'll rephrase.
Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
neither.
Thanks,
Your mom
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 01:15:01
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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Burt wrote:
> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
> neither.
Carmichael has no integrity, but he's not stupid. The Strock
case could have sunk him, but it didn't.
But he's free to talk about what I would like to see in
the book. Clearing the Strock case allowed him to continue
posing as LANCE's coach, providing cover for the orange
juice peddler, much to everyone's benefit and profit. That
was a smart move.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 10:07:10
From: Frank Drackman
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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"Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:pGEfi.5566$Rw1.3084@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> Burt wrote:
>> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
>> neither.
>
> Carmichael has no integrity, but he's not stupid. The Strock
> case could have sunk him, but it didn't.
>
> But he's free to talk about what I would like to see in
> the book. Clearing the Strock case allowed him to continue
> posing as LANCE's coach, providing cover for the orange
> juice peddler, much to everyone's benefit and profit. That
> was a smart move.
>
> Bob Schwartz
I agree, he has made a lot of money being a beard.
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 17:41:53
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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"Burt" <burt.hoovis@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1182726594.742734.31470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 7:07 pm, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Burt wrote:
>> > > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>>
>> > > Dumbass,
>>
>> > > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of
>> > > the
>> > > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>>
>> > > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
>> > > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>>
>> > > Bob Schwartz
>>
>> > Assface,
>>
>> > Innocent people don't settle.
>>
>> Dumbass -
>>
>> That's not true.
>>
>> Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times
>> even
>> innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
>> costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to
>> settle.
>>
>> A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's
>> something
>> like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
>> the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
>> file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything
>> at
>> trial.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> K. Gringioni.
>
> Assface,
>
> You have a good point, so I'll rephrase.
>
> Innocent people with integrity and balls don't settle. Carmichael has
> neither.
I think this captures it the best. Innocent people with more money than
brains don't settle.
Phil H
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 16:07:30
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 1:19 pm, Burt <burt.hoo...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Burt wrote:
> > >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> > Dumbass,
>
> > He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> > settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> > You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> > properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
> > Bob Schwartz
>
> Assface,
>
> Innocent people don't settle.
Dumbass -
That's not true.
Despite the distatefulness of submitting to extortion, most times even
innocent people settle in civil cases due to a desire to avoid legal
costs. It usually costs more to defend and win than it does to settle.
A tiny percent percent of those cases ever go to trial. It's something
like 2 or 3 percent. Does that mean that 97-98% of defendants were in
the wrong? I think not - there is a built in incentive for lawyers to
file suits even if there is an unfavorable of them winning anything at
trial.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 13:19:24
From: Burt
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> Burt wrote:
> >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>
> Dumbass,
>
> He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
> settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>
> You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
> properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>
> Bob Schwartz
Assface,
Innocent people don't settle.
Thanks
Your Mom
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 20:54:04
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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> Innocent people don't settle.
Innocent people settle all the time. Back in the day my father (sports
editor for a local newspaper, back when that meant something) covered a bike
race in San Jose, held at the county fairgrounds. The guaranteed prize list
was quite large, but what materialized was maybe 20% of that, if that. Total
scam. The promoters failed on a number of other counts as well; this was not
too different from a "Music Man" sort of thing. A lot of people put a lot of
volunteer work into it, and my father wrote about it. It was actually a
pretty tame piece, all things considered. And, of course, the promoters
threatened to sue. No question that the newspaper would have won the case,
but it would have been expensive and time-consuming to do so, so they
settled. My father was FURIOUS, and I, for the life of me, couldn't figure
out why someone would settle if they knew they were right.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Burt" <burt.hoovis@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1182716364.961533.154510@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 1:40 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>> Burt wrote:
>> >http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shit...
>>
>> Dumbass,
>>
>> He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
>> settlement was that no one would talk about it.
>>
>> You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
>> properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
>>
>> Bob Schwartz
>
> Assface,
>
> Innocent people don't settle.
>
> Thanks
> Your Mom
>
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 17:40:36
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Carnicheal - this could make one gag...
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Burt wrote:
> http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2007/06/thank-god-i-was-on-shitter-when-i-read.html
Dumbass,
He can't talk about the Strock case because one of the terms of the
settlement was that no one would talk about it.
You know, one of the things that makes a winner is knowing how to
properly manage life's little embarrassing failures.
Bob Schwartz
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