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Date: 08 Aug 2007 18:07:05
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Contador press conference Fri
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13062.0.html

Hmm...




 
Date: 11 Aug 2007 05:19:50
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 9, 11:53 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com >
wrote:
> > You can probably solve the mystery. Did Trek change the "X time Tour
> > de France winner" decal with each model year, as soon as results were
> > posted (plus the 15 minute protest period), or somewhere in between?
>
> I wish. Trek was *way* behind in getting new decals made, such that it
> wasn't until halfway through the new model year that we saw bikes with "7"
> instead of "6"- over half a year after Lance had won his last TdF.

Thanks. It's nice to know it might actually be an '06. No matter, I
like it either way.

Bret



 
Date: 10 Aug 2007 04:24:51
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 8, 9:37 pm, samson <no...@noone.net > wrote:
> In article <1186622317.465458.13...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> b...@mambo.ucolick.org says...
>
> > On Aug 8, 2:00 pm, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
> > > <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
>
> > > > Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway,
>
> > > Why not? Someone who can win the Draai van de Kaai, can win anything.
>
> >http://www.dedraai.nl/?nStructureID=65
>
> > I note that Michael Boogerd was second.
> > Also, Contador has a disturbingly luminescent
> > crotch in that podium picture.
>
> > Ben
>
> That boy is irradiated. Do they test for plutonium?
>
> S.

what's gonna say? ima sorry we forgive you we are innocent we want to
compete but you won't let us
but we support cycling in germany for the german people who bombed
spainish civilians for no reason in 1938 and we'll be back next year
and kickass....stupid krauts
just basic bs after all it can't get more complex hehehehhe



 
Date: 10 Aug 2007 04:08:48
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 9, 4:56 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com > wrote:
> > I have a Madone from last year. It was a team bike and we all received
> > our bikes at same time. They're identical except for the "7 time Tour
> > de France winner" decal. Mine only goes to "6". I take this as a sign
> > that Lance is going to lose one of his. The only question is which
> > one?
>
> Not a problem if he loses one, or even two. He can make them up with his two
> "virtual" wins he has yet to claim. It's right there in the RBR rules. In
> the post-LeMond era, you're allowed to make reasonable claims for up to
> three.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

You can probably solve the mystery. Did Trek change the "X time Tour
de France winner" decal with each model year, as soon as results were
posted (plus the 15 minute protest period), or somewhere in between?

Bret



  
Date: 10 Aug 2007 05:53:22
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
> You can probably solve the mystery. Did Trek change the "X time Tour
> de France winner" decal with each model year, as soon as results were
> posted (plus the 15 minute protest period), or somewhere in between?

I wish. Trek was *way* behind in getting new decals made, such that it
wasn't until halfway through the new model year that we saw bikes with "7"
instead of "6"- over half a year after Lance had won his last TdF.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

"Bret" <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1186718928.215475.272080@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 9, 4:56 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>> > I have a Madone from last year. It was a team bike and we all received
>> > our bikes at same time. They're identical except for the "7 time Tour
>> > de France winner" decal. Mine only goes to "6". I take this as a sign
>> > that Lance is going to lose one of his. The only question is which
>> > one?
>>
>> Not a problem if he loses one, or even two. He can make them up with his
>> two
>> "virtual" wins he has yet to claim. It's right there in the RBR rules. In
>> the post-LeMond era, you're allowed to make reasonable claims for up to
>> three.
>>
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> You can probably solve the mystery. Did Trek change the "X time Tour
> de France winner" decal with each model year, as soon as results were
> posted (plus the 15 minute protest period), or somewhere in between?
>
> Bret
>




 
Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:41:37
From: MyPostingID
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
I hope he is not sick again.



 
Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:38:48
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 9, 10:46 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> P.S. And I just test rode one of the '08 Madones yesterday, from Mike Jacoubowsky's shop, which did a fantastic job taking time to fit me up, even if it was just a test ride. Even though I'm not a big Ultegra fan (chunk-chunk; even my old 9-speed Dura-Ace, certainly my newer SRAM Rival, has a better shifting feel, to me), the bike was certainly stable, and felt good during the ride, which included some steep climbs, a semi-rough descent, and some sprints (FWIW, as I don't have much of a sprint). But I'm afraid if the MJ is taken away from Disco, the bike will lose its luster :).

I have a Madone from last year. It was a team bike and we all received
our bikes at same time. They're identical except for the "7 time Tour
de France winner" decal. Mine only goes to "6". I take this as a sign
that Lance is going to lose one of his. The only question is which
one?

Bret



  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 22:56:07
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
> I have a Madone from last year. It was a team bike and we all received
> our bikes at same time. They're identical except for the "7 time Tour
> de France winner" decal. Mine only goes to "6". I take this as a sign
> that Lance is going to lose one of his. The only question is which
> one?

Not a problem if he loses one, or even two. He can make them up with his two
"virtual" wins he has yet to claim. It's right there in the RBR rules. In
the post-LeMond era, you're allowed to make reasonable claims for up to
three.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA




 
Date: 09 Aug 2007 01:18:37
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 8, 2:00 pm, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl > wrote:
> <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
>
> > Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway,
>
> Why not? Someone who can win the Draai van de Kaai, can win anything.
>

http://www.dedraai.nl/?nStructureID=65

I note that Michael Boogerd was second.
Also, Contador has a disturbingly luminescent
crotch in that podium picture.

Ben





  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 10:31:32
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:18:37 -0000, "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org"
<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:

>On Aug 8, 2:00 pm, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>> <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
>>
>> > Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway,
>>
>> Why not? Someone who can win the Draai van de Kaai, can win anything.
>>
>
>http://www.dedraai.nl/?nStructureID=65
>
>I note that Michael Boogerd was second.
>Also, Contador has a disturbingly luminescent
>crotch in that podium picture.

Atomic Nad Patch. We've seen this before. Floyd wore a lead codpiece under his
shorts to keep his unseen.

Ron


  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 09:13:01
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> http://www.dedraai.nl/?nStructureID=65
>
> I note that Michael Boogerd was second.
> Also, Contador has a disturbingly luminescent
> crotch in that podium picture.

Did you also note that Justin's son won Juniors?
And that the photo album starts in 1980? http://foto.dedraai.nl/foto/


--
E. Dronkert


  
Date: 08 Aug 2007 20:37:22
From: samson
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
In article <1186622317.465458.13810@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org says...
> On Aug 8, 2:00 pm, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
> > <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
> >
> > > Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway,
> >
> > Why not? Someone who can win the Draai van de Kaai, can win anything.
> >
>
> http://www.dedraai.nl/?nStructureID=65
>
> I note that Michael Boogerd was second.
> Also, Contador has a disturbingly luminescent
> crotch in that podium picture.
>
> Ben

That boy is irradiated. Do they test for plutonium?

S.


 
Date: 08 Aug 2007 15:25:29
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 8, 4:07 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net >
wrote:

> '...won't be taking questions after he reads a prepared statement...'

That sounds horribly ominous to me. Budd Dwyer ominous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer



  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:44:51
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
MMan wrote:
> On Aug 8, 4:07 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> '...won't be taking questions after he reads a prepared statement...'
>
> That sounds horribly ominous to me. Budd Dwyer ominous.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
>

There's a youtube for everything. They cut out right at the end here
but it's eerie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faK_NH1d7ZA


  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:22:37
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
MMan wrote:
> On Aug 8, 4:07 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> '...won't be taking questions after he reads a prepared statement...'
>
> That sounds horribly ominous to me. Budd Dwyer ominous.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer
>

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.php?id=/photos/2007/aug07/surhuisterveen07/ALBERTOCONTADOR-PATMcQUAID-DANILODILUCA-JANJANSENFORMERDUTCHTOURWINNER


   
Date: 10 Aug 2007 02:24:26
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
Dan Connelly schreef:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.php?id=/photos/2007/aug07/surhuisterveen07/ALBERTOCONTADOR-PATMcQUAID-DANILODILUCA-JANJANSENFORMERDUTCHTOURWINNER

They're taking away Janssen's Tour win now?!


--
E. Dronkert


 
Date: 08 Aug 2007 15:07:10
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
In article <dDnui.32509$2v1.10014@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net >,
d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m says...
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13062.0.html
>
> Hmm...

NO KIDDING HMMMMM!!!!


WOW! That's going to be interesting!!


'...won't be taking questions after he reads a prepared statement...'



HMMMM!!!


-Bob




 
Date: 08 Aug 2007 19:21:02
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
On Aug 8, 11:07 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13062.0.html
>
> Hmm...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6937634.stm

The organizers disinvited him from the Hamburg
Cyclassics, it might be related to or prompted
by that. Or, maybe he's going to show up with
his chimera.

Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway, but are
there any limits on the power of organizers to exclude
riders they don't like, even if they haven't been
sanctioned? Obviously the ASO has led the way here.
One can easily imagine this being abused.

Ben



  
Date: 09 Aug 2007 16:46:56
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> On Aug 8, 11:07 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
>> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13062.0.html
>>
>> Hmm...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6937634.stm
>
> The organizers disinvited him from the Hamburg
> Cyclassics, it might be related to or prompted
> by that. Or, maybe he's going to show up with
> his chimera.


Interestingly, Bruyneel's interview just published on his web site:
http://www.johanbruyneel.com/column.aspx?id=93 ,
which was reproduced on cyclingnews.com, fails to discuss the press conference. If this was a blockbuster admission of guilt, you'd suspect the Contador-won story would have been toned down.

Dan

P.S. And I just test rode one of the '08 Madones yesterday, from Mike Jacoubowsky's shop, which did a fantastic job taking time to fit me up, even if it was just a test ride. Even though I'm not a big Ultegra fan (chunk-chunk; even my old 9-speed Dura-Ace, certainly my newer SRAM Rival, has a better shifting feel, to me), the bike was certainly stable, and felt good during the ride, which included some steep climbs, a semi-rough descent, and some sprints (FWIW, as I don't have much of a sprint). But I'm afraid if the MJ is taken away from Disco, the bike will lose its luster :).




  
Date: 08 Aug 2007 23:00:58
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Contador press conference Fri

<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote in message
news:1186600862.288194.4060@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 8, 11:07 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
>> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/13062.0.html
>>
>> Hmm...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/6937634.stm
>
> The organizers disinvited him from the Hamburg
> Cyclassics, it might be related to or prompted
> by that. Or, maybe he's going to show up with
> his chimera.
>
> Not that he was going to win Hamburg anyway,

Why not? Someone who can win the Draai van de Kaai, can win anything.

Benjo