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Date: 20 Mar 2007 04:26:07
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Contador the New Indurain?
Why would writers put that sort of idiotic load on a young rider. We must
remember that Indurain did not look all that good until he was older than
Contador. He became a force after he lost a lot of weight.

Maybe he ought to be the one and only Alberto Contador and not a new anyone
else.

There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
another Eric Zabel.






 
Date: 22 Mar 2007 23:52:45
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 22, 3:28 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net > wrote:
> "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1174501896.829415.152830@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On 21, 2:19 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net> wrote:
> >> Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote
> >> > How about The Apothecary?
>
> >> Rodolfo Massi was The Pharmacist
>
> > dumbass,
>
> > i was a fan of massi too in '98, when he outclimbed the peloton almost
> > caught pantani. too bad he was in jail and had to DNF.
>
> dumbass,
>
> then you ought to enjoy this little stroll down rbr memory lane:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2n488n

dumbass,

that thread reminds me of this :

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/d5ddbebd7c618c94/5ea5a9164eacd421?lnk=gst&q=jeanson+brake+release&rnum=1#5ea5a9164eacd421

that why i come to rbr, for the expert analysis




  
Date: 23 Mar 2007 00:11:29
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
In article <1174632765.930776.239760@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote:

> that thread reminds me of this :
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/d5ddbebd7c618c94/5ea5a9164eacd421?lnk=gst&q=jeanson+brake+release&rnum=1#5ea5a9164eacd421
>
> that why i come to rbr, for the expert analysis

AHM at 26 is good.

--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


 
Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:31:36
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 21, 2:19 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net > wrote:
> Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote innews:wveMh.8798$y=
W=2E8118@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
>
> > benjo maso wrote:
> >> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >>news:Jy_Lh.99$Kd3.16@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> >>> Geraard Spergen wrote:
> >>>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with
> >>>> nicknames; either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> >>>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> >>>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> >>>> The Boss, El Ni=F1o... come on
>
> >>>> Elefantino wasn't bad
> >>>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> >>>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
> >>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>
> >> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
> >> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine
> >> Baldy, The Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000
> >> Volt, The Cycling Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The
> >> Greek Child, The Human Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull
> >> of Nay, The Titmouse of Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of
> >> Baracaldo, The White Tornado, Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega,
> >> The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of Avila, The Shepherd of
> >> Manosque, etc., etc.?
>
> >> Benjo
>
> > How about The Apothecary?
>
> Rodolfo Massi was The Pharmacist

dumbass,

i was a fan of massi too in '98, when he outclimbed the peloton almost
caught pantani. too bad he was in jail and had to DNF.

what about vanderaerden, the "salami thief" ?



  
Date: 22 Mar 2007 19:28:27
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote in
news:1174501896.829415.152830@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> On 21, 2:19 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net> wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote

>> > How about The Apothecary?
>>
>> Rodolfo Massi was The Pharmacist
>
> dumbass,
>
> i was a fan of massi too in '98, when he outclimbed the peloton almost
> caught pantani. too bad he was in jail and had to DNF.


dumbass,

then you ought to enjoy this little stroll down rbr memory lane:

http://tinyurl.com/2n488n

How nice! Andrew Albright was even being civil to Bruce Hildenbrand.


NS
perplexed at remembering that thread


 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:20:56
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 20, 8:10 pm, "Daniel" <remixro...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> actually...it was Luis Sanches who was compared to Indurain...not that
> it makes it any better...


no, sanchez is the old "next indurain".



  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:25:28
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
In article <1174440056.928419.291160@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote:

> On 20, 8:10 pm, "Daniel" <remixro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > actually...it was Luis Sanches who was compared to Indurain...not that
> > it makes it any better...
>
>
> no, sanchez is the old "next indurain".

Then Prudencio (Miguel's brother) was the first "next Indurain" - we
saw how that worked out for him.

--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 17:10:31
From: Daniel
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
actually...it was Luis Sanches who was compared to Indurain...not that
it makes it any better...



 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 13:12:09
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 20, 5:15 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> amit.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> how about another tom kunich ?
> Donald Munro wrote:
> >> Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
> >> seems to be out of the question.
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> > Just wait until you guys see the Lafferty upgrade.
>
> Perhaps, but perhaps you should first concentrate on providing Kunich
> with an Abortable interface.

Damn that's a beeeaautiful set-up to get REALLY nasty, just like he
usually is. I'll pass on it though.
Bill C



 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 13:08:28
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 20, 11:15 am, Curtis L. Russell <cur...@md-bicycling.org >
wrote:
> On Tue, 20 2007 07:05:00 -0800, Geraard Spergen
>
> <GSper...@spammagnet.com> wrote:
> >See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
> >either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> >Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> >Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> >The Boss, El Ni=F1o... come on
>
> >Elefantino wasn't bad
> >Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> >But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>
> If done accurately, the 'next whoever' is a quick shorthand to
> communicate to the fans the announcer's opinion. If done with context,
> it is quite useful, or can be.

dumbass,

nicknames are also a good sytem for labelling blood bags.




  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:42:04
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> On 20, 11:15 am, Curtis L. Russell <cur...@md-bicycling.org>
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 2007 07:05:00 -0800, Geraard Spergen
>>
>> <GSper...@spammagnet.com> wrote:
>>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
>>> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>> If done accurately, the 'next whoever' is a quick shorthand to
>> communicate to the fans the announcer's opinion. If done with context,
>> it is quite useful, or can be.
>
> dumbass,
>
> nicknames are also a good sytem for labelling blood bags.
>
>

Could cause trouble though. When you pull the bag out of the freezer and
it says "The New Indurain", what does that mean?

"Hey Tyler, I think this one's yours."


 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 07:17:20
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Geraard Spergen wrote:
>
> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> The Boss, El Ni=F1o... come on
>
> Elefantino wasn't bad
> Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.

The Next is a great nickname by itself. It offers the hope of
imminent success. And it also opens up the possibility of Abbott and
Costello routines by Bob Roll and Phil Liggett.

.=2E.and two have made their move as the road kicks up! Who's the lead
rider, Bob?
The Next.
No. I mean who is the rider in front.
The Next rider is in front.
I mean which rider is doing the work in the breakaway?
The Next.
.=2E.you're really starting to piss me off, Bob.

R



 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 07:05:00
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Tom Kunich wrote:
> Why would writers put that sort of idiotic load on a young rider. We must
> remember that Indurain did not look all that good until he was older than
> Contador. He became a force after he lost a lot of weight.
>
> Maybe he ought to be the one and only Alberto Contador and not a new anyone
> else.
>
> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
> Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
> another Eric Zabel.
>
>

See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
either that or there truly are no good ones left.

Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.

Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum

The Boss, El Niņo... come on

Elefantino wasn't bad
Il Grillo is pretty good

But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.


  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 23:58:33
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Geraard Spergen wrote:
> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>
> Elefantino wasn't bad
> Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.

The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.

Bob Schwartz


   
Date: 21 Mar 2007 03:55:35
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?

"Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:Jy_Lh.99$Kd3.16@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Geraard Spergen wrote:
>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
>> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>
>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>
>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>
>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>
>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>
>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>
> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.


What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine Baldy, The
Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000 Volt, The Cycling
Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The Greek Child, The Human
Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull of Nay, The Titmouse of
Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of Baracaldo, The White Tornado,
Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega, The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of
Avila, The Shepherd of Manosque, etc., etc.?

Benjo




    
Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:07:24
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
benjo maso wrote:
> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy_Lh.99$Kd3.16@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> Geraard Spergen wrote:
>>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
>>> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>>
>>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>>
>>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>>
>>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>>
>>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>>
>>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>
>
> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine Baldy, The
> Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000 Volt, The Cycling
> Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The Greek Child, The Human
> Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull of Nay, The Titmouse of
> Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of Baracaldo, The White Tornado,
> Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega, The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of
> Avila, The Shepherd of Manosque, etc., etc.?
>
> Benjo

How about The Apothecary?

Bob Schwartz


     
Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:19:57
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in
news:wveMh.8798$yW.8118@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

> benjo maso wrote:
>> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:Jy_Lh.99$Kd3.16@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Geraard Spergen wrote:
>>>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with
>>>> nicknames; either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>>>
>>>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>>>
>>>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>>>
>>>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>>>
>>>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>>>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>>>
>>>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>>
>>
>> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
>> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine
>> Baldy, The Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000
>> Volt, The Cycling Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The
>> Greek Child, The Human Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull
>> of Nay, The Titmouse of Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of
>> Baracaldo, The White Tornado, Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega,
>> The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of Avila, The Shepherd of
>> Manosque, etc., etc.?
>>
>> Benjo
>
> How about The Apothecary?


Rodolfo Massi was The Pharmacist


NS
fan of Massi


    
Date: 21 Mar 2007 15:23:52
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
"benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote in
news:56bl57F288eiiU1@mid.individual.net:

>
> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy_Lh.99$Kd3.16@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> Geraard Spergen wrote:
>>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with
>>> nicknames; either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>>
>>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>>
>>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>>
>>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>>
>>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>>
>>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>>
>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>
>
> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine Baldy,
> The Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000 Volt,
> The Cycling Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The Greek
> Child, The Human Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull of Nay,
> The Titmouse of Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of
> Baracaldo, The White Tornado, Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega,
> The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of Avila, The Shepherd of Manosque,
> etc., etc.?


My favorite "etc." is The Tashkent Terror.

NS
Coke drinker


    
Date: 21 Mar 2007 06:57:02
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
benjo maso wrote:
> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine
> Baldy, The Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000
> Volt, The Cycling Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The
> Greek Child, The Human Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull
> of Nay, The Titmouse of Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of
> Baracaldo, The White Tornado, Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega,
> The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of Avila, The Shepherd of
> Manosque, etc., etc.?

The Nutbar of RBR?




     
Date: 21 Mar 2007 07:48:54
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On Wed, 21 2007 06:57:02 +0100, "Robert Chung"
<me@address.invalid > wrote:

>benjo maso wrote:
>> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
>> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine
>> Baldy, The Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000
>> Volt, The Cycling Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The
>> Greek Child, The Human Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull
>> of Nay, The Titmouse of Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of
>> Baracaldo, The White Tornado, Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega,
>> The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of Avila, The Shepherd of
>> Manosque, etc., etc.?
>
>The Nutbar of RBR?

The Joker, the Riddler, the Penguin?

Thanks Benjo.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:00:49
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
In article <56bl57F288eiiU1@mid.individual.net >, "benjo maso"
<benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote:

> What about The Angel of the Mountains, The Wolf of the Abruzzi, The
> Butterfly of the Andes, The Miracle of the Aubisque, The Divine Baldy, The
> Beetle of the Mountains, The Twining Plant, Mister 100.000 Volt, The Cycling
> Monk, The Buffalo of Medellin, The Crazy Heart, The Greek Child, The Human
> Locomotive, The Eagle of Adliswil, The Bull of Nay, The Titmouse of
> Radenac, The Lion of Mugello, The Vulcano of Baracaldo, The White Tornado,
> Mister 60 %, The Flea of Torrelavega, The Cycling Menhir, The Clockmaker of
> Avila, The Shepherd of Manosque, etc., etc.?

Nice, thanks for that, Benjo.

--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


   
Date: 21 Mar 2007 00:08:34
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Bob Schwartz wrote:

>
> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.

The Libedo of Toledo would be better. It would also be more interesting
reading how whoever got that name got that name. In my opinion anyway.

--
Bill Asher


    
Date: 20 Mar 2007 21:40:15
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
William Asher wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>
> The Libedo of Toledo would be better. It would also be more interesting
> reading how whoever got that name got that name. In my opinion anyway.

http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/riders/rider_bio.asp?rider_id=14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Bahamontes

From Toledo, Spain.

Bob Schwartz


     
Date: 21 Mar 2007 16:13:58
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Bob Schwartz wrote:

> William Asher wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> The Eagle of Toledo. Now THAT'S a classic.
>>
>> The Libedo of Toledo would be better. It would also be more
>> interesting reading how whoever got that name got that name. In my
>> opinion anyway.
>
> http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/riders/rider_bio.asp?rider_id=14
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Bahamontes
>
> From Toledo, Spain.

So even if I said I knew it was Toledo Spain, my joke has still been
smacked upside the head with the cold fist of reality?

--
Bill Asher


  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:17:22
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
In article <45ffe9c8$0$32455$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com >,
Geraard Spergen <GSpergen@spammagnet.com > wrote:

> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > Why would writers put that sort of idiotic load on a young rider. We must
> > remember that Indurain did not look all that good until he was older than
> > Contador. He became a force after he lost a lot of weight.
> >
> > Maybe he ought to be the one and only Alberto Contador and not a new anyone
> > else.
> >
> > There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
> > Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
> > another Eric Zabel.
> >
> >
>
> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>
> Elefantino wasn't bad
> Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.

Plenty of good nicknames left, but you cannot waste them on potential.
The Hammer
Roundhouse
Roadhouse
Wolf
Smoke

Who remembers Gordie Howe's nickname? Not Blinky; what
his team mates called him. As a rookie he took a run
at a veteran on the boards. The veteran slipped the
check, Howe concussed himself, and afterwards he had an
odd blink.
--
Michael Press


   
Date: 21 Mar 2007 01:57:56
From: MkTm
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Michael Press wrote:
>
> Plenty of good nicknames left, but you cannot waste them on potential.
> The Hammer
> Roundhouse
> Roadhouse
> Wolf
> Smoke
>
> Who remembers Gordie Howe's nickname? Not Blinky; what
> his team mates called him. As a rookie he took a run
> at a veteran on the boards. The veteran slipped the
> check, Howe concussed himself, and afterwards he had an
> odd blink.

I don't remember what his teammates called Howe but he was not so fondly
referred to as "quick elbows." When Howe went into a corner to dig out
the puck any opposing player there would mysteriously fall to the ice.
This was not due to any the sort of crude and uncouth 'stick butt in the
face' behavior of the later years "Broadstreet Bullies." Howe's
sophisticated elbows were lightening quick and only those that paid
extremely close attention or experienced them (and remained conscious)
could provide insight. In his later years (age 47 I think) when he
played for a WHA all-star team against the Soviet national team, the
phenomena of skaters dropping when Howe approached achieved
international recognition, admiration and respect.

If Howe had been a cyclist and you were in a final sprint about to
slipstream by him, you'd be making a big mistake if you didn't take a
very wide path around.


    
Date: 21 Mar 2007 03:51:30
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
In article <Ei0Mh.12158$dG.2466@trndny08 >,
MkTm <MkTmE@NOSPAM.invalid > wrote:

> Michael Press wrote:
> >
> > Plenty of good nicknames left, but you cannot waste them on potential.
> > The Hammer
> > Roundhouse
> > Roadhouse
> > Wolf
> > Smoke
> >
> > Who remembers Gordie Howe's nickname? Not Blinky; what
> > his team mates called him. As a rookie he took a run
> > at a veteran on the boards. The veteran slipped the
> > check, Howe concussed himself, and afterwards he had an
> > odd blink.
>
> I don't remember what his teammates called Howe

Power

> but he was not so fondly
> referred to as "quick elbows." When Howe went into a corner to dig out
> the puck any opposing player there would mysteriously fall to the ice.
> This was not due to any the sort of crude and uncouth 'stick butt in the
> face' behavior of the later years "Broadstreet Bullies." Howe's
> sophisticated elbows were lightening quick and only those that paid
> extremely close attention or experienced them (and remained conscious)
> could provide insight. In his later years (age 47 I think) when he
> played for a WHA all-star team against the Soviet national team, the
> phenomena of skaters dropping when Howe approached achieved
> international recognition, admiration and respect.
>
> If Howe had been a cyclist and you were in a final sprint about to
> slipstream by him, you'd be making a big mistake if you didn't take a
> very wide path around.

Rick Reilly compiled a 20th century sport's best list.
<http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/1999/10/05/lifeofreilly/ >

Greatest Athlete Who Could Turn You into a Lump
Gordie Howe, who was his own goon.
--
Michael Press


   
Date: 20 Mar 2007 15:36:53
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On Tue, 20 2007 18:17:22 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:

>> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
>> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>>
>> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>>
>> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>>
>> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>>
>> Elefantino wasn't bad
>> Il Grillo is pretty good
>>
>> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.
>
>Plenty of good nicknames left, but you cannot waste them on potential.
>The Hammer
>Roundhouse
>Roadhouse
>Wolf
>Smoke
>
...
>--
>Michael Press

You could use up the Seven Dwarfs on most of a team, but who qualifies
as 'Snow White'? I can think of a few Docs, and a whole lot of Dopeys.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 11:11:30
From: KC
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Geraard Spergen wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> Why would writers put that sort of idiotic load on a young rider. We
>> must remember that Indurain did not look all that good until he was
>> older than Contador. He became a force after he lost a lot of weight.
>>
>> Maybe he ought to be the one and only Alberto Contador and not a new
>> anyone else.
>>
>> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault,
>> another Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably
>> won't see another Eric Zabel.
>>
>>
>
> See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
> either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
> Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
> Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
> The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>
> Elefantino wasn't bad
> Il Grillo is pretty good
>
> But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.

"Contador El Conquistador."

There. Finished. He now has a nickname.

I'll be expecting royalties for the use of it... ;^)

-KC


   
Date: 20 Mar 2007 09:22:09
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
KC wrote:

>
> "Contador El Conquistador."
>
> There. Finished. He now has a nickname.
>
> I'll be expecting royalties for the use of it... ;^)
>
> -KC

That's very good. He'll even have a theme song by Procol Harum.
Although I cringe at the mispronunciation... they can just play the
instrumental track.


  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 11:15:14
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On Tue, 20 2007 07:05:00 -0800, Geraard Spergen
<GSpergen@spammagnet.com > wrote:

>See this is because journalists today have no creativity with nicknames;
>either that or there truly are no good ones left.
>
>Cannibal, Badger, Gypsy - those are classics.
>
>Lion King, Kaiser... ho hum
>
>The Boss, El Niņo... come on
>
>Elefantino wasn't bad
>Il Grillo is pretty good
>
>But "The Next Whoever" is expedient.

If done accurately, the 'next whoever' is a quick shorthand to
communicate to the fans the announcer's opinion. If done with context,
it is quite useful, or can be. (Note: there is a difference between:

As to challenging for the home run title, such-and- such may be the
next Barry Bonds

and

With recent grand jury testimony, such-and-such may be the next Barry
Bonds).

Its when it is sloppy and expedient that it is a real problem; more so
if it isn't accurate at all. OTOH, if the reference is positive,
complaining about pressure would be absurd. Either you can get it done
or you can't. You can't blame the announcers if you spend your career
trying to be someone you can't. Look what happened to Zabel trying to
be the next Sean Kelly. A career in disarray and ruin. What he could
have been...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 05:29:54
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 19, 10:26 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> Why would writers put that sort of idiotic load on a young rider. We must
> remember that Indurain did not look all that good until he was older than
> Contador. He became a force after he lost a lot of weight.

Cuz cycling is out of favor, particularly with spectators and the
advertisers are a-scrambbling..so an announcer says something stoopid
like the new 'whateverputnameherefromappropriatecountry'...
>
> Maybe he ought to be the one and only Alberto Contador and not a new anyone
> else.
>
> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
> Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
> another Eric Zabel.

I agree,




 
Date: 20 Mar 2007 10:28:33
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Tom Kunich wrote:

> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
> Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
> another Eric Zabel.
>
>
But there is another Rik van Looy. He's been riding around the
Colchester UK region for some time
:-))


 
Date: 19 Mar 2007 21:55:42
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 20, 12:26 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:

> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
> Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
> another Eric Zabel.


dumbass,

how about another tom kunich ?




  
Date: 20 Mar 2007 06:14:15
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
On 3/19/07 10:55 PM, in article
1174366542.203945.12660@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "amit.ghosh@gmail.com"
<amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote:

> On 20, 12:26 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> There will never be another Eddy Merckx, another Bernard Hinault, another
>> Lance Armstrong nor another Miguel Indurain. Hell, we probably won't see
>> another Eric Zabel.
>
>
> dumbass,
>
> how about another tom kunich ?


I'd be happy without the original Tom K-eunuch.




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Date: 20 Mar 2007 12:30:21
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> how about another tom kunich ?

Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
seems to be out of the question.





   
Date: 20 Mar 2007 12:47:50
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Donald Munro wrote:
> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>> how about another tom kunich ?
>
> Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
> seems to be out of the question.

Just wait until you guys see the Lafferty upgrade.

Bob Schwartz


    
Date: 20 Mar 2007 23:15:17
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>> how about another tom kunich ?

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
>> seems to be out of the question.

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Just wait until you guys see the Lafferty upgrade.

Perhaps, but perhaps you should first concentrate on providing Kunich
with an Abortable interface.



     
Date: 21 Mar 2007 00:01:05
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Donald Munro wrote:
> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> how about another tom kunich ?
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
>>> seems to be out of the question.
>
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> Just wait until you guys see the Lafferty upgrade.
>
> Perhaps, but perhaps you should first concentrate on providing Kunich
> with an Abortable interface.

He already *has* an abortable interface. If no one responds,
he aborts. That's all it takes. People have to ignore him.

Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Dumbasses!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

Bob Schwartz


    
Date: 20 Mar 2007 16:36:48
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Contador the New Indurain?
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in news:WJQLh.11261
$jx3.5195@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:

> Donald Munro wrote:
>> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>> how about another tom kunich ?
>>
>> Depends on whether he implements the Cloneable interface, since mating
>> seems to be out of the question.
>
> Just wait until you guys see the Lafferty upgrade.



just a note for those who are new to artificial imbecile (AI) terminology
-- "upgrade" means even dumber and more pig-headed than before.

NS
MIT computer lab rat