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Date: 13 Jul 2007 01:21:15
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Subject: Cycling News quote of the day
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Robert Hunter: "Obliviously it is good to be in the Tour this year and just, basically, racing for myself." http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul13news -ilan
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 11:53:48
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Subject: Re: Vino's crash (was Re: Cycling News quote of the day)
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On Jul 13, 4:18 am, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote: > On Jul 13, 12:08 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote: > > > I find it hard to believe that a chain off on the outside > > would bring down a rider of Vino's quality. You can usually pedal throu= gh > > that. > > Dumbass - > > If he was standing up on the pedals and putting his weight on the > downstroke when it came off . . . > > thanks, > > K. Gringioni. Exactement, dumbassez. From cyclingnews: Vinokourov blamed the crash, which came on a fast descent with 26 kilometres left in the fifth stage to Autun, on a mechanical, explaining, "I think that my chain skipped, and as a result I lost my balance." His long, tense chase to the finish was made more difficult by the category three C=F4te de la Croix de la Lib=E9ration just 8.5 kilometres from the end. "If the finale of the stage had been flat there would have been no problem [getting back -ed]." This has been the cause of most of my "single vehicle accidents" on the bike -- losing traction on the back wheel while standing will bring you down quick for the same reason -- suddenly there's no resistance where you expected there would be some.--Shayana Kadidal
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 02:47:43
From: sergio
Subject: Re: Vino's crash (was Re: Cycling News quote of the day)
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On Jul 13, 9:08 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote: . You can usually pedal through > that. Stop pedalling, rather, if you can. Sergio Pisa
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:18:26
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Vino's crash (was Re: Cycling News quote of the day)
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On Jul 13, 12:08 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote: > I find it hard to believe that a chain off on the outside > would bring down a rider of Vino's quality. You can usually pedal through > that. Dumbass - If he was standing up on the pedals and putting his weight on the downstroke when it came off . . . thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 11:53:55
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Vino's crash (was Re: Cycling News quote of the day)
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in message <1184314706.160943.180770@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com >, Kurgan Gringioni ('kgringioni@hotmail.com') wrote: > On Jul 13, 12:08 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote: >> I find it hard to believe that a chain off on the outside >> would bring down a rider of Vino's quality. You can usually pedal >> through that. > > If he was standing up on the pedals and putting his weight on the > downstroke when it came off . . . Ouch. Yes, there is that - although in my experience you normally only drop the chain when changing at the front, and... well, maybe these guys do have the strength and confidence to do that routinely. -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ Copyright (c) Simon Brooke; All rights reserved. Permission is granted to transfer this message via UUCP or NNTP and to store it for the purpose of archiving or further transfer. Permission is explicitly denied to use this message as part of a 'Web Forum', or to transfer it by HTTP.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 05:33:55
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Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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On Jul 13, 1:31 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com > wrote: > shayana.kadi...@gmail.com writes: > > On Jul 12, 9:21 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Robert Hunter: "Obliviously it is good to be in the Tour this year and > >> just, basically, racing for myself." > > >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07... > > >> -ilan > > > The actual quote of the day: > > "Europeans [would always] have problems with the musette. They have no > > hand-eye coordination. It's a foot continent."--Bob Roll > > Happiness is not having to listen to an Uncouth Idiot like Roll > > -- > Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply > - > You are going to let the fear of poverty govern your life and your > reward will be that you will eat, but you will not live. > - George Bernard Shaw Wait, it's actually: "We will have a Tour of America. But it'll have to wait until gasoline runs out." Also Bob Roll. BTW, does anyone know what actually brought down Vinokourov? No explanations in print yet, it seems.--SK
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:08:39
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Vino's crash (was Re: Cycling News quote of the day)
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in message <1184304835.673744.320470@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com >, shayana.kadidal@gmail.com (' shayana.kadidal@gmail.com') wrote: > BTW, does anyone know what actually brought down Vinokourov? No > explanations in print yet, it seems.--SK Chain came off and jammed, at speed. When his bike was picked up the chain was off at the front, and when Vino was asked at the finish he just said tersely (in French) 'my chain came off'. But his teammate was able to get it back on just by lifting the back of the bike and spinning the pedals, so the rear mech had not jammed. I assume the chain had gone down the inside and caught between the chainset and the BB, although it wasn't clear from the TV pictures whether it was off on the inside or off on the outside - still, I find it hard to believe that a chain off on the outside would bring down a rider of Vino's quality. You can usually pedal through that. -- simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ [ This .sig intentionally left blank ]
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:49:15
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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shayana.kadidal@gmail.com schreef: > BTW, does anyone know what actually brought down Vinokourov? No > explanations in print yet, it seems.--SK I'm curious as well. A camera bike crashed near him and Vino was making mad gestures at something/someone. Perhaps he got clipped by the motobike? -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 12 Jul 2007 22:44:48
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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In article <1184304835.673744.320470@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com >, shayana.kadidal@gmail.com wrote: > BTW, does anyone know what actually brought down Vinokourov? No > explanations in print yet, it seems.--SK Gravity. (Sorry...) -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:04:58
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > writes: > In article <1184304835.673744.320470@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, > shayana.kadidal@gmail.com wrote: > >> BTW, does anyone know what actually brought down Vinokourov? No >> explanations in print yet, it seems.--SK > It was race favourite Alexandre Vinokourov's turn to hit the tarmac, apparently after colliding with a following vehicle. He shakes his fists in frustration and replays show a nasty graze to the right buttock, which looks like it will be exposed for the rest of the stage. Wegelius to the front of the pack again as they pop under the 25km banner. -- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply - Capitalism means the Corporations enslave the People, Communism means the State enslaves the People.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 05:27:03
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Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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On Jul 12, 9:21 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote: > Robert Hunter: "Obliviously it is good to be in the Tour this year and > just, basically, racing for myself." > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07... > > -ilan The actual quote of the day: "Europeans [would always] have problems with the musette. They have no hand-eye coordination. It's a foot continent."--Bob Roll
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 07:31:18
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Cycling News quote of the day
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shayana.kadidal@gmail.com writes: > On Jul 12, 9:21 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote: >> Robert Hunter: "Obliviously it is good to be in the Tour this year and >> just, basically, racing for myself." >> >> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07... >> >> -ilan > > The actual quote of the day: > "Europeans [would always] have problems with the musette. They have no > hand-eye coordination. It's a foot continent."--Bob Roll > Happiness is not having to listen to an Uncouth Idiot like Roll -- Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply - You are going to let the fear of poverty govern your life and your reward will be that you will eat, but you will not live. - George Bernard Shaw
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