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Date: 12 Oct 2007 14:36:47
From: Bill C
Subject: Cycling no longer "The Dirtiest Sport"?
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3060689 Sources: Forthcoming Mitchell report will be 'huge story' By Buster Olney ESPN The Magazine (Updated: October 12, 2007, 5:27 PM ET Since former Senator George Mitchell launched his investigation into baseball's steroid past 18 months ago, the big questions have been whether the final report would name names, and how many names would be named, and how important the names would be. Some officials came away from a 30-team Major League Baseball conference call held mid-day Friday with the understanding that the forthcoming Mitchell report would include many names; names which have so far not been disclosed publicly; and the names of well-known players. I wonder if any of the talking heads who've been talking out their asses about cycling will actually stand up and admit they had their heads up their asses. I sincerely doubt it. I'm pretty disgusted with the vast majority of the "sports journalists" out there. For that matter 99% of the journalists in general. In this era of "reality" and "talking head" stardom these clowns have decided that they are more important than the stories, they make the stories, opinion is fact as long ads it's theirs, etc...The arrogance, and total lack of journalistic integrity, while cannonizing themselves is rampant. Screw almost all of 'em. Bread and Circuses to them all, and buyer beware! Bill C
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Date: 12 Oct 2007 16:58:54
From: Crescentius Vespasianus
Subject: Re: Cycling no longer "The Dirtiest Sport"?
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On Oct 12, 4:46 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Oct 12, 5:36 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > I sincerely doubt it. I'm pretty disgusted with the vast majority of > > the "sports journalists" out there. For that matter 99% of the > > journalists in general. In this era of "reality" and "talking head" > > stardom these clowns have decided that they are more important than > > the stories, they make the stories, opinion is fact as long ads it's > > theirs, etc...The arrogance, and total lack of journalistic integrity, > > while cannonizing themselves is rampant. > > dumbass, > > setting aside the fact that the term 'sports journalism' is any > oxymoron i see the opposite. > > most of those that report on sports are seduced by the charisma of > athletes and enjoy socializing with them and having 'insider' access > to ask difficult questions. you can't report objectively on someone if > you are enjoying perks and friendships from the people you are > supposed to be reporting on. > > these reporters cater to the hero-worshiping majority of fans who > become irate when someone like walsh paints a different picture. > > when i was a kid i would read my copies of winning and bicycle guide > from cover to cover over and over. that lasted from 1987 to 1997, but > now when i read a cycling article now which liberally uses words like > "determination" and "courage" I get nauseous. I grew up. -------------------- you lasted longer than I did. when I saw Basso posing in various Italian suits it jumped the shark for me. Sometimes I'll look at the gear sections of a bike mag to see what's new or ridiculous.
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Date: 13 Oct 2007 07:59:53
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Cycling no longer "The Dirtiest Sport"?
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote: > you lasted longer than I did. when I saw Basso posing in various > Italian suits it jumped the shark for me. Sometimes I'll look at the > gear sections of a bike mag to see what's new or ridiculous. That's just because you fancy Cipo in an Italian suit.
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Date: 12 Oct 2007 23:46:06
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Cycling no longer "The Dirtiest Sport"?
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On Oct 12, 5:36 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote: > I sincerely doubt it. I'm pretty disgusted with the vast majority of > the "sports journalists" out there. For that matter 99% of the > journalists in general. In this era of "reality" and "talking head" > stardom these clowns have decided that they are more important than > the stories, they make the stories, opinion is fact as long ads it's > theirs, etc...The arrogance, and total lack of journalistic integrity, > while cannonizing themselves is rampant. dumbass, setting aside the fact that the term 'sports journalism' is any oxymoron i see the opposite. most of those that report on sports are seduced by the charisma of athletes and enjoy socializing with them and having 'insider' access to ask difficult questions. you can't report objectively on someone if you are enjoying perks and friendships from the people you are supposed to be reporting on. these reporters cater to the hero-worshiping majority of fans who become irate when someone like walsh paints a different picture. when i was a kid i would read my copies of winning and bicycle guide from cover to cover over and over. that lasted from 1987 to 1997, but now when i read a cycling article now which liberally uses words like "determination" and "courage" I get nauseous. I grew up.
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Date: 12 Oct 2007 18:59:53
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Cycling no longer "The Dirtiest Sport"?
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In article <1192232766.302883.46060@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com >, "amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote: > On Oct 12, 5:36 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > I sincerely doubt it. I'm pretty disgusted with the vast majority of > > the "sports journalists" out there. For that matter 99% of the > > journalists in general. In this era of "reality" and "talking head" > > stardom these clowns have decided that they are more important than > > the stories, they make the stories, opinion is fact as long ads it's > > theirs, etc...The arrogance, and total lack of journalistic integrity, > > while cannonizing themselves is rampant. > > dumbass, > > setting aside the fact that the term 'sports journalism' is any > oxymoron i see the opposite. > > most of those that report on sports are seduced by the charisma of > athletes and enjoy socializing with them and having 'insider' access > to ask difficult questions. you can't report objectively on someone if > you are enjoying perks and friendships from the people you are > supposed to be reporting on. Amit, you can't limit that to just sports journalism. The same applies to those who report on politics - the Beltway crowd here in the US. If they did the reporting they should, they wouldn't get to hang out with the people in power and their access would be limited severely. -- tanx, Howard Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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