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Date: 30 Jul 2007 10:40:45
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
Dumbasses -


From:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul30news

<snip >

Alberto Contador may have conquered the 94th Tour de France, but there
are many who feel that Evans was the real star of the race.

<snip ><end>


I guess they do that because Evans is Aussie and cyclingnews.com is
Aussie.

Evans, the "real star of the race"? My strongest recollections of him
are of him getting dropped during some important moments and his post
race complaining of his team not having the budget to hire a rider who
could "close the gaps" for him.

Lame! An example of bike-racer-excusism at its finest.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.





 
Date: 31 Jul 2007 10:31:06
From: Bounty Bob
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -


> From:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul30news

> <snip>

> Alberto Contador may have conquered the 94th Tour de France, but there
> are many who feel that Evans was the real star of the race.

> <snip><end>


> I guess they do that because Evans is Aussie and cyclingnews.com is
> Aussie.

> Evans, the "real star of the race"? My strongest recollections of him
> are of him getting dropped during some important moments and his post
> race complaining of his team not having the budget to hire a rider who
> could "close the gaps" for him.



Hey you are doing an injustice, he also had a good whinge
about the other teams not working hard enough for him on
one stage!


 
Date: 30 Jul 2007 23:24:22
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass


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Date: 30 Jul 2007 14:11:22
From:
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
On Jul 30, 12:07 pm, shane <jtorr_2...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
> handled it well.
>
> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> in the race?
>
>
>
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> > Dumbasses -
>
> > From:
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07...
>
> > <snip>
>
> > Alberto Contador may have conquered the 94th Tour de France, but there
> > are many who feel that Evans was the real star of the race.
>
> > <snip><end>
>
> > I guess they do that because Evans is Aussie and cyclingnews.com is
> > Aussie.
>
> > Evans, the "real star of the race"? My strongest recollections of him
> > are of him getting dropped during some important moments and his post
> > race complaining of his team not having the budget to hire a rider who
> > could "close the gaps" for him.
>
> > Lame! An example of bike-racer-excusism at its finest.
>
> > thanks,
>
> > K. Gringioni.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


A rider can be a factor in a couple of ways: 1) they can make the
breaks themselves, or 2) others can attack to get rid of the rider in
question.

Evans was clearly a factor in the race because much of Contador's and
Rasmussen's attacks were aimed at distancing Evans. He was a factor.

Fred



 
Date: 30 Jul 2007 13:32:17
From: shane
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
Levi won a big stage, and you couldnt expect him to chase after
Contador

Perreiro at least went on the breakaway, dont remember how active he
was in it though...

chester wrote:
> shane wrote:
> > Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
> > handled it well.
> >
> > Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> > in the race?
> >
> >
>
> =D3scar Pereiro?



  
Date: 30 Jul 2007 20:35:04
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
shane wrote:
> Levi won a big stage, and you couldnt expect him to chase after
> Contador
>
> Perreiro at least went on the breakaway, dont remember how active he
> was in it though...
>

Perreiro had the yellow jersey for an extended period. He was a real factor in the race.

Evans won one stage, a time trial, but really didn't initiate much action, directly or indirectly, otherwise.

Hats off to him, though -- he rode an excellent race, in my view.

Dan


   
Date: 30 Jul 2007 17:30:53
From: Wayne Pein
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
Dan Connelly wrote:

> Evans won one stage, a time trial, but really didn't initiate much
> action, directly or indirectly, otherwise.
>

He "initiated" a 3 second gain on a sprint stage :-)

Evans wasn't typically in a position, tactically or physically, to
initiate action because he was often forced to react to others.
Rabobank, Astana, Disco all had stronger mountain teams.

Wayne




 
Date: 30 Jul 2007 11:33:19
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> in the race?



Levi



  
Date: 30 Jul 2007 19:02:18
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:33:19 -0700, "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
<rick-paulos@uiowa.edu > wrote:

>> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
>> in the race?
>
>Levi

LOL. If he was second overall, I'd agree with you.

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Date: 30 Jul 2007 11:07:19
From: shane
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass

Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
handled it well.

Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
in the race?



Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
>
> From:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul30news
>
> <snip>
>
> Alberto Contador may have conquered the 94th Tour de France, but there
> are many who feel that Evans was the real star of the race.
>
> <snip><end>
>
>
> I guess they do that because Evans is Aussie and cyclingnews.com is
> Aussie.
>
> Evans, the "real star of the race"? My strongest recollections of him
> are of him getting dropped during some important moments and his post
> race complaining of his team not having the budget to hire a rider who
> could "close the gaps" for him.
>
> Lame! An example of bike-racer-excusism at its finest.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.



  
Date: 30 Jul 2007 13:30:46
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
shane wrote:
> Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
> handled it well.
>
> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> in the race?
>
>

Ullrich


  
Date: 30 Jul 2007 12:24:59
From: chester
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass


shane wrote:
> Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
> handled it well.
>
> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> in the race?
>
>

Óscar Pereiro?


   
Date: 30 Jul 2007 19:02:36
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:24:59 -0700, chester <chester@hotmeal.com >
wrote:

>
>
>shane wrote:
>> Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
>> handled it well.
>>
>> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
>> in the race?
>>
>>
>
>Óscar Pereiro?

No, he went in a long distance break.

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Date: 30 Jul 2007 18:27:08
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
shane wrote:
> Felt bad for Horner when they asked him aobut Cadel's whining, but he
> handled it well.
>
> Has there ever been a rider as highly placed who was such a non-factor
> in the race?
>

Lucien Pothier.

Dan

P.S. Alex Zulle.


 
Date: 30 Jul 2007 11:05:06
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Cyclingnews has its head up its ass
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
>
> From:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/news/?id=/news/2007/jul07/jul30news
>
> <snip>
>
> Alberto Contador may have conquered the 94th Tour de France, but there
> are many who feel that Evans was the real star of the race.
>
> <snip><end>
>
>
> I guess they do that because Evans is Aussie and cyclingnews.com is
> Aussie.
>

1. some Spanish guy
2. Cadel Evans
3. Levi Leipheimer