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Date: 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Davey Millar on Saturday
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I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
1. My lad Cédric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
Cédric is pretty sure to ride too;
2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
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Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 19:53:08
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Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 8:28 pm, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM > wrote:
> On Jul 5, 10:21 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> > Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> > 1. My lad C=E9dric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
> > supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
> > C=E9dric is pretty sure to ride too;
>
> > 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
> > Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>
> > --
> > Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> > -
> > The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
> > Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
>
> I think Cancelara will take it.
>
> Andre
I agree, especially because I saw his Tour de Suisse prologue, and I
noted that he has extremely good bike handling skills which will gain
him some time. I think he is a better bike handler than than Millar,
Wiggins, and Zabriskie (duh).
-ilan
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 08:32:14
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 3:40 pm, Dan Gregory
<dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > wrote:
> Crescentius Vespasianus wrote:
> > ---------------
> > If I was there I would check the dumpsters behind the hotels, where the
> > riders are staying. Look for hypo's, blood bags, used t-patches, etc.
> > Enter all the data into my laptop, and then you would have your answer.
>
> Given the levels of security in London at the moment I don't think there
> will be many dumpsters...
The perfect way of safely disposing of doping byproducts!
1. Get blue cooler full of blood, steroids, needles,
caffeinated Clif bars, etc.
2. Place used needles, bags, and Clif bar wrappers
carefully in empty cooler.
3. Quietly leave cooler on street corner and wait for
Metropolitan Police to detonate it as "suspicious
package," destroying all evidence.
4. Profit!
Ben
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 19:04:36
From: bob sullivan
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> On Jul 5, 3:40 pm, Dan Gregory
> <dangreg...@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> Crescentius Vespasianus wrote:
>>> ---------------
>>> If I was there I would check the dumpsters behind the hotels, where the
>>> riders are staying. Look for hypo's, blood bags, used t-patches, etc.
>>> Enter all the data into my laptop, and then you would have your answer.
>> Given the levels of security in London at the moment I don't think there
>> will be many dumpsters...
>
> The perfect way of safely disposing of doping byproducts!
>
> 1. Get blue cooler full of blood, steroids, needles,
> caffeinated Clif bars, etc.
>
> 2. Place used needles, bags, and Clif bar wrappers
> carefully in empty cooler.
>
> 3. Quietly leave cooler on street corner and wait for
> Metropolitan Police to detonate it as "suspicious
> package," destroying all evidence.
>
> 4. Profit!
Where's the step about stealing underpants?
~bob s.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 00:31:02
From: ronaldo_jeremiah
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 4:12 pm, Doug Taylor <dtay...@dreamscape.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
>
> <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> >I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> >Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since?
His recent lack of results excepted, how do you know he is clean?
-rj
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 00:51:43
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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In article <1183681862.996046.42050@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
ronaldo_jeremiah <ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jul 5, 4:12 pm, Doug Taylor <dtay...@dreamscape.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
> >
> > <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> > >I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> > >Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
> >
> > Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since?
>
>
> His recent lack of results excepted, how do you know he is clean?
>
> -rj
Let me tell you a story about something called the Millar Line...
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 16:36:02
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 7:28 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:10:36 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> >wrote:
> >> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >after having signed Basso which
> >> >was illegal at the the time.
>
> >> Illegal? What laws were broken?
> >The law that prvented teams from signing riders under investigation.
>
> That's a law? In what country? Or is it an EU law? What legislature
> passed such a law?
>
> --
> JT
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Call it what you want, but you know what I'm referring to don't you?
Maybe it wasn't a law but a requirement that teams could not sign
riders under investigation if they wanted to compete in major races.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 19:07:38
From: bob sullivan
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Andre wrote:
> On Jul 5, 7:28 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:10:36 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> after having signed Basso which
>>>>> was illegal at the the time.
>>>> Illegal? What laws were broken?
>>> The law that prvented teams from signing riders under investigation.
>> That's a law? In what country? Or is it an EU law? What legislature
>> passed such a law?
>>
> Call it what you want, but you know what I'm referring to don't you?
> Maybe it wasn't a law but a requirement that teams could not sign
> riders under investigation if they wanted to compete in major races.
I thought CONI had closed the investigation into Basso at the time that
Disco signed him. If that's the case, then they didn't break the
agreement, because he was, at that moment, in the clear. He resigned
after CONI reopened the case.
~bob s.
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 09:57:13
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:36:02 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM > wrote:
>On Jul 5, 7:28 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:10:36 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >after having signed Basso which
>> >> >was illegal at the the time.
>>
>> >> Illegal? What laws were broken?
>> >The law that prvented teams from signing riders under investigation.
>>
>> That's a law? In what country? Or is it an EU law? What legislature
>> passed such a law?
>>
>> --
>> JT
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>Call it what you want, but you know what I'm referring to don't you?
>Maybe it wasn't a law but a requirement that teams could not sign
>riders under investigation if they wanted to compete in major races.
There was among a group of teams a pretentious assertion that they were some
sort of association with rules that were binding upon pro tour teams. Some
number of those teams promulgated this rule. Basically it was so enormously
stupid and unenforceable that there's no reason to abide by it.
Ron
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 09:27:39
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM > writes:
>
> Call it what you want, but you know what I'm referring to don't you?
> Maybe it wasn't a law but a requirement that teams could not sign
> riders under investigation if they wanted to compete in major races.
>
Discovery, who might suffer the Ignominy of not having a single rider
make it to Lutetia, is a Yankee-Doodle squad
And Yankee Doodle Squads can do what they like
Even get Miffed and take their Bat and Ball home and drop out of their
Trade Union
That's the Law that applies to this situation
It's called the Monroe Doctrine
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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When Indians have identity it is called Culture.
When Blacks have identity it is called Pride.
When Semites have identity it is called History.
When White People have identity it's called Racism!
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 19:42:50
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:36:02 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM >
wrote:
>Call it what you want, but you know what I'm referring to don't you?
Arthur, you have to be more clear in writing.
>Maybe it wasn't a law but a requirement that teams could not sign
>riders under investigation if they wanted to compete in major races.
Maybe?
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 16:10:36
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
> wrote:
>
> >after having signed Basso which
> >was illegal at the the time.
>
> Illegal? What laws were broken?
>
> --
> JT
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The law that prvented teams from signing riders under investigation.
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 19:28:43
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:10:36 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM >
wrote:
>On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >after having signed Basso which
>> >was illegal at the the time.
>>
>> Illegal? What laws were broken?
>The law that prvented teams from signing riders under investigation.
That's a law? In what country? Or is it an EU law? What legislature
passed such a law?
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 6:34 pm, "Crescentius Vespasianus" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> > I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> > Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> > 1. My lad C=E9dric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
> > supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
> > C=E9dric is pretty sure to ride too;
>
> > 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
> > Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>
> ---------------
> If I was there I would check the dumpsters behind the hotels, where the
> riders are staying. Look for hypo's, blood bags, used t-patches, etc.
> Enter all the data into my laptop, and then you would have your answer.
>
> Davy claims he isn't a citizen of the UK, he said he was a citizen of the
> world. That was when he won the opening TT years ago, and before he got
> busted, lost his french castle, and the french girlfriend. I guess the
> French police didn't quite grab this citizen of the world rap he was doing
> at that time, and took him down a few rungs.
Sorry for changing the subject; but what law was modified that allows
Discovery to field a team in the Tour after having signed Basso which
was illegal at the the time. I know someone explained it, but I can't
remember.
Andre
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 19:02:42
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:37:38 -0700, Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM >
wrote:
>after having signed Basso which
>was illegal at the the time.
Illegal? What laws were broken?
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 22:34:54
From: Crescentius Vespasianus
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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> I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> 1. My lad Cédric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
> supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
> Cédric is pretty sure to ride too;
>
> 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
> Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
---------------
If I was there I would check the dumpsters behind the hotels, where the
riders are staying. Look for hypo's, blood bags, used t-patches, etc.
Enter all the data into my laptop, and then you would have your answer.
Davy claims he isn't a citizen of the UK, he said he was a citizen of the
world. That was when he won the opening TT years ago, and before he got
busted, lost his french castle, and the french girlfriend. I guess the
French police didn't quite grab this citizen of the world rap he was doing
at that time, and took him down a few rungs.
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 23:40:48
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Crescentius Vespasianus wrote:
> ---------------
> If I was there I would check the dumpsters behind the hotels, where the
> riders are staying. Look for hypo's, blood bags, used t-patches, etc.
> Enter all the data into my laptop, and then you would have your answer.
Given the levels of security in London at the moment I don't think there
will be many dumpsters...
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 21:25:31
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 2:12 pm, Doug Taylor <dtay...@dreamscape.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
>
> <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> >I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> >Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since ?
David Moncoutie, Stage 12, July 14, 2005. Everybody
knows Moncoutie is clean, and a French rider
who wins on Bastille Day is definitely clean.
Ben
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 17:46:39
From: Doug Taylor
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:25:31 -0000, "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org"
<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:
>On Jul 5, 2:12 pm, Doug Taylor <dtay...@dreamscape.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
>>
>> <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
>> >I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
>> >Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>>
>> Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since ?
>
>
>David Moncoutie, Stage 12, July 14, 2005. Everybody
>knows Moncoutie is clean, and a French rider
>who wins on Bastille Day is definitely clean.
Virenque, Stage 10, July 14, 2004. Post-bust clean?
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 10:01:21
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Doug Taylor wrote:
> Virenque, Stage 10, July 14, 2004. Post-bust clean?
Or Paris-Tours in 2001 ?
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 17:12:59
From: Doug Taylor
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
<d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > wrote:
>I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
>Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since ?
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 16:52:33
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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in message <blnq839blsin3eo62hqhnh9rlq229d8vsp@4ax.com >, Doug Taylor
('dtaylor@dreamscape.com') wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:42 +0200, Davey Crockett
> <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
>>Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> Giving the first Stage Win to a certified clean rider since ?
Charles Laeser in Bordeaux in 1903, I think.
Mind you, I'm not certain he was clean.
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;; It appears that /dev/null is a conforming XSL processor.
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 11:28:34
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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On Jul 5, 10:21 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
> Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>
> 1. My lad C=E9dric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
> supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
> C=E9dric is pretty sure to ride too;
>
> 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
> Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>
> --
> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> -
> The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
> Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
I think Cancelara will take it.
Andre
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Date: 06 Jul 2007 01:51:42
From: Keith
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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>> 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
>> Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>>
>> --
>> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
>> -
>> The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
>> Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
>
>
>I think Cancelara will take it.
+1
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 20:31:05
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM > writes:
> On Jul 5, 10:21 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> wrote:
>> I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
>> Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>>
>> 1. My lad Cédric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
>> supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
>> Cédric is pretty sure to ride too;
>>
>> 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
>> Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>>
>> --
>> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
>> -
>> The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
>> Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
>
>
> I think Cancelara will take it.
>
> Andre
>
We shall see, we shall see ;)
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-G.K. Chesterton
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Date: 05 Jul 2007 15:31:32
From: bob sullivan
Subject: Re: Davey Millar on Saturday
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Davey Crockett wrote:
> Andre <ANDREJANSSENS1@YAHOO.COM> writes:
>> On Jul 5, 10:21 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm going to stick my neck out and root for Davey Millar to take the
>>> Tour Opener on Saturday if for no other reasons other than
>>>
>>> 1. My lad Cédric Vasseur doesn't have a hope of pulling it off, even
>>> supposing he rides which isn't 100% certain although if Boonen rides,
>>> Cédric is pretty sure to ride too;
>>>
>>> 2. I'm sick of the sanctimonious shit several riders, principally from
>>> Great Britain, are spouting according to the Tabloids
>>>
>>> --
>>> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
>>> -
>>> The best slaves are the ones that think they're free.
>>> Right George? (both Brown and Bush)
>>
>> I think Cancelara will take it.
>>
>> Andre
>
> We shall see, we shall see ;)
Dave Z. :)
~bob s.
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