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Date: 17 Jun 2007 11:04:40
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Don't bike in Israel

Two bicyclists died yesterday in separate incidents. In the morning, a
70-year-old rider collapsed during an off-road ride near Moshav Odem
in the northern Golan Heights. Magen David Adom paramedics declared
him dead at the scene. Meanwhile, a 58-year-old collapsed cycling near
Naveh Shalom and was also declared dead at the scene. (Eli Ashkenazi)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871564.html

--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply




 
Date: 19 Jun 2007 02:48:11
From:
Subject: Re: Don't bike in Israel
On Jun 18, 7:08 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:08 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > More generally, israeli road safety is terrible. The
> > number of Israeli civilians
> > killed in the Lebanon war last year was on the same order as
> > pedestrians killed by cars
> > each month.
>
> An Israeli mathematician (named Vardi - do you have a
> brother?) once told me the old joke:
>
> "What is the shortest measurable quantum of time?"
>
> "The time between when an Israeli traffic light turns
> green and the guy behind you starts honking his horn."
>
> I've subsequently been told that he was wrong because
> the time is measurably negative.
>
> Ben

I heard that joke on Johnny Carson about 25 years ago.

-ilan



  
Date: 19 Jun 2007 10:19:16
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Don't bike in Israel
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> An Israeli mathematician (named Vardi - do you have a
>> brother?) once told me the old joke:

ilanpsi wrote:
> I heard that joke on Johnny Carson about 25 years ago.

He's an astrophysicist. They experiment with time dilation (but only when
they can't afford illegal stimulants).



 
Date: 18 Jun 2007 12:49:29
From: Mike Bruno
Subject: Re: Don't bike in Israel
On Jun 17, 10:08 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:08 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > More generally, israeli road safety is terrible. The
> > number of Israeli civilians
> > killed in the Lebanon war last year was on the same order as
> > pedestrians killed by cars
> > each month.
>
> An Israeli mathematician (named Vardi - do you have a
> brother?) once told me the old joke:
>
> "What is the shortest measurable quantum of time?"
>
> "The time between when an Israeli traffic light turns
> green and the guy behind you starts honking his horn."
>
> I've subsequently been told that he was wrong because
> the time is measurably negative.
>
> Ben

This is because they have those lights that go red/yellow at the same
time
before they go green. Everyone is expected to start moving at that
point
(or so it seems judging by the honking.....).



 
Date: 18 Jun 2007 05:08:30
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Don't bike in Israel
On Jun 17, 8:08 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> More generally, israeli road safety is terrible. The
> number of Israeli civilians
> killed in the Lebanon war last year was on the same order as
> pedestrians killed by cars
> each month.
>

An Israeli mathematician (named Vardi - do you have a
brother?) once told me the old joke:

"What is the shortest measurable quantum of time?"


"The time between when an Israeli traffic light turns
green and the guy behind you starts honking his horn."

I've subsequently been told that he was wrong because
the time is measurably negative.

Ben






 
Date: 18 Jun 2007 03:08:00
From:
Subject: Re: Don't bike in Israel
On Jun 17, 11:04 am, Davey Crockett <daveycrocket...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> Two bicyclists died yesterday in separate incidents. In the morning, a
> 70-year-old rider collapsed during an off-road ride near Moshav Odem
> in the northern Golan Heights. Magen David Adom paramedics declared
> him dead at the scene. Meanwhile, a 58-year-old collapsed cycling near
> Naveh Shalom and was also declared dead at the scene. (Eli Ashkenazi)
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871564.html
>
> --
> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

Already israeii champion Golan SHalmon was killed by an errant driver,
even though
he had a follow vehicle: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=624351
Apparently, it is illegal to cycle for fitness on open roads in
Israel. A policeman forced Leah Goldstein to
get off her bike while she was on a training ride, which is probably a
good thing, given
these incidents. More generally, israeli road safety is terrible. The
number of Israeli civilians
killed in the Lebanon war last year was on the same order as
pedestrians killed by cars
each month.

-ilan