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Date: 16 Mar 2007 23:33:33
From: Dave Johnson
Subject: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 23:21:12
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 1:17 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 17, 8:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 17, 10:35 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> > > know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> > > in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
> > > that he was no Einstein.
>
> > > Ben
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > What he did was so very impressive because it altered mankind's
> > understanding of the universe. That's a rare thing.
>
> > A brilliant orator can come off as much more intelligent. For example,
> > ever hear Jim Lampley
> > ad-lib? They don't let him do it when doing TV broadcasts, but
> > sometimes you'll hear it on radio. He'll effortlessly throw out two or
> > three words per paragraph that you've never heard of and he uses them
> > in context. The guy's obviously brilliant and anyone who heard an
> > anonymous recording of him, then an anonymous recording of Einstein
> > speaking would probably think Lampley was the ster. And he is, in a
> > certain type of intelligence, but he didn't change mankind's
> > understanding of the universe either.
>
> > IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> > Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
>
> > thanks,
>
> > K. Gringioni.
>
> Well, one of the funniest things I ever heard on TV was Jim Lampley
> reporting on Wimbledon and when he came
> to some women's player called Frasier who lost in an early round, he
> said right after "Down goes Frasier, Down goes Frasier!"
> Just to compare with other commentators, no one thought of that when
> Paula Newby Frasier fell down in the last km's of the Hawaii Ironman.
>
> On the other hand, I have heard Albert Einstein ad libbing, and it was
> quite good. You can hear it in the extras of the DVD's
> of the Simpsons first season. Check it out.
No doubt. Does his brother Bob Einstein do any appearances?
Ah, I think our joke could use a footnote:
http://tinyurl.com/2eg32v
(Tinyurl used to avoid spoiling the joke; it's just a Wikipedia link).
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 23:00:24
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Eric Hocking" <ehocking@REMOVE_THIS_BIT_btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >
> > I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
> > their rivals' packages...
>
> Contrary to most of the "regulars" here - real men don't really "check out
> their rivals packages". Though I think that you'll find that Asher, Kveck,
> Russell and a few others are very interested.
A real man wouldn't notice other men noticing.
R
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 09:45:37
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 20 2007 23:00:24 -0700, "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com >
wrote:
>> Contrary to most of the "regulars" here - real men don't really "check out
>> their rivals packages". Though I think that you'll find that Asher, Kveck,
>> Russell and a few others are very interested.
>
>A real man wouldn't notice other men noticing.
Or so damn preoccupied with the issue, although with TK its hard to
tell whether today's preoccupation is with his insecurities,
especially of size, or his general fear that the population is full of
gays. I assume that TK for both reasons washes his hands at least four
times an hour when he is out in public - more if he has to shake
anyone's hand.
Or maybe he has simply stopped going out in public. That would be a
plus on the side of psychosis.
Its a bit late to expect TK to grow up. Way late. My son stopped
saying stupid shit like TK spouts all the time shortly after turning
21, and my wife and I both thought it was about time. Then, again, my
son is pretty much normal, other than the tournament poker stuff.As
soon as he stops showing a plus, we'll talk to him about that...
TK couldn't find normal if it wore a collar that beeped.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 12:42:31
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Jeremy Parker wrote:
>
> Alan Turing rode a bike without a helmet
>
> HG Wells rode a bike without a helmet
>
> I ride a bike without a helmet
Nice try, but the Eloi-bot didn't pass the test. Guess who's coming
to dinner...?
R
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 18:28:27
From: Jeremy Parker
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Dave Johnson" <dj@dj.no > wrote in message
news:to1c5ixt88to$.1vuy7ucyu23ek$.dlg@40tude.net...
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so
> seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Alan Turing rode a bike without a helmet
HG Wells rode a bike without a helmet
I ride a bike without a helmet
Jeremy Parker
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 15:44:26
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Mon, 19 2007 18:28:27 -0000, "Jeremy Parker"
<JeremyParker@compuserve.com > wrote:
>
>"Dave Johnson" <dj@dj.no> wrote in message
>news:to1c5ixt88to$.1vuy7ucyu23ek$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so
>> seemingly
>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>
>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
>Alan Turing rode a bike without a helmet
>
>HG Wells rode a bike without a helmet
>
>I ride a bike without a helmet
>
>Jeremy Parker
>
And you design machines that count backward into the past.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 11:26:19
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Michael Press wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <me@address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
>
> So all those women who claim to scope out
> mens' buttocks have been lying?
They ignored the evidence that highlights the differences between men
and women. Women like biceps - notice the women's focus on the upper
arm. Show this picture to any woman and see if she doesn't swoon:
http://blog.muschamp.ca/Pictures/2006/gregValentino.jpg
Men like bisexual women. For proof, simply search your own hard
drive.
R
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 00:31:42
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 12:54 pm, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 4:41 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ewoud Dronkert" <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
>
> >news:45fc5118$0$69886$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>
> > > b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> > >> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
> > >> prowess" in physics.
>
> > > Being a good experimenter.
>
> > When I was working in high energy physics we had Dr. Sloan working for us
> > and he wouldn't have known what an experiment was let alone be a good
> > experimenter. We had another British PhD physicist who would design the
> > experiments and prove or disprove Dr. Sloan's maunderings.
>
> > Many times when I walked past Dr. Sloan's office he would be curled up in a
> > fetal position sleeping on top of his desk. He had to be assigned an
> > assistant who would follow him around everywhere since he would walk out the
> > door and walk off and get lost.
>
> Um, that wasn't an "office", that was a ward. The "assistant" was an
> orderly. Where exactly did you fit in?
Dumbass -
Welcome to the Hotel California.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 20:23:13
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 18, 5:11 pm, YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com (Howard Kveck) wrote:
> In article <1174264811.336466.252...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:
> > On 17, 12:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> > > Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
>
> > Leonardo had been nearly everywhere, known everyone,
> > and done everything. If there was an invention of the
> > time, he either made it or was present during its
> > development. In other words, he was the Tom Kunich
> > of the Renaissance.
>
> Well, except for the "actually doing all that stuff" part.
Dumbass -
The Leonardo da Vinci of Our Time, Tom Kunich, flat out does not
receive the due which he so richly deserves. It's very unfair. Someone
should maintain a website documenting all the fields in which he is an
expert - the only problem is that his expertise covers such a vast
array of science that no sinlge person would have time to document it
all.
What we need is a wikikunichedia.org to track the accomplishments of
the Kunich polymath.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 21:03:29
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <1174274593.765579.212110@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote:
> The Leonardo da Vinci of Our Time, Tom Kunich, flat out does not
> receive the due which he so richly deserves. It's very unfair. Someone
> should maintain a website documenting all the fields in which he is an
> expert - the only problem is that his expertise covers such a vast
> array of science that no sinlge person would have time to document it
> all.
>
> What we need is a wikikunichedia.org to track the accomplishments of
> the Kunich polymath.
The only problem with that is that there is so much information that it
would clog the intertubes completely.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 19:41:35
From:
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 5:10 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com >
wrote:
> On 3/17/07 5:58 AM, in article
> 1174132690.339418.122...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Seven Seas Oscirius"
>
> <brightice2...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 17, 12:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
> >> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> >> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> >>http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> > Besides, it's illegal to ride a bike without a helmet.
>
> Not in New Jersey (where the photo was taken), Utah, or California.
>
> Steven L. Sheffield
Dear Steven,
An email just asked me if I had recently posted on RBT about the
famous picture of Einstein on a bicycle and whether it was taken in
New Jersey.
The picture was taken "at the home of Ben Meyer in Santa Barbara,
California, on February 18, 1933":
http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/einstein/sitecredits.php
(See the credits at the bottom of the page.)
Happy quibbling!
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 17:40:11
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 12:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On 17, 10:35 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> > know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> > in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
> > that he was no Einstein.
>
> What he did was so very impressive because it altered mankind's
> understanding of the universe. That's a rare thing.
Dumbass,
I agree. Einstein single-handedly created the image of
the wild-haired scientist mad genius, and what would our
culture do without that today?
His work on the photoelectric effect was also impressive,
even if it had no imfluence on "Revenge of the Nerds,"
but I don't know where that ranks on Ilan's invented
scale of technical prowess.
> IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
Leonardo had been nearly everywhere, known everyone,
and done everything. If there was an invention of the
time, he either made it or was present during its
development. In other words, he was the Tom Kunich
of the Renaissance.
Ben
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 18:11:18
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <1174264811.336466.252590@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:
> On 17, 12:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> > Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
>
> Leonardo had been nearly everywhere, known everyone,
> and done everything. If there was an invention of the
> time, he either made it or was present during its
> development. In other words, he was the Tom Kunich
> of the Renaissance.
Well, except for the "actually doing all that stuff" part.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 19:21:46
From: Dead Paul
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Fri, 16 2007 23:33:33 -0800, Dave Johnson wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Einstein played with what???
Nooooooooooooooooooo, he basically admitted that he "hated dice"
in this context.
Get your facts right! :-)
--
___ _______ ___ ___ ___ __ ____
/ _ \/ __/ _
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 09:59:15
From: Ian Connor
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Fri, 16 2007 23:33:33 -0800, Dave Johnson wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
http://www.btinternet.com/~time.lord/Relativity.html
http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/modusoperandi.htm
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/n254.htm
http://www.anti-relativity.com/intro.htm
http://www.2ubh.com/features/Einstein.html
http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-interest-to-white-people/a-closer-look-at-albert-einstein_1296.html
http://physics.about.com/od/relativisticmechanics/a/relativity_3.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/einstein.htm
http://www-gatago.com/sci/physics/relativity/35713800.html
http://christianparty.net/johnstachel.htm
http://www.eduessays.com/Essays-y35801.htm
http://www.ecampus.com/bk_detail.asp?referrer=617&ISBN=0971962987
http://www.rense.com/general40/einstein.htm
http://www.catholicintl.com/noncatholicissues/personal_lives.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282344/posts
http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep6/ep6-phipps.htm
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5236
http://einstein52.tripod.com/alberteinsteinprophetorplagiarist/
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/MainPage.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/041224.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 15:27:27
From: Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Simply because, he has had played, first of all, with the Money, which
always makes a Money, as a simply as that!
--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!
"Ian Connor" <Ian_Connor@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:etj2hi$hot$1@news.datemas.de...
> On Fri, 16 2007 23:33:33 -0800, Dave Johnson wrote:
>
> > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
> >
> > http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
>
> http://www.btinternet.com/~time.lord/Relativity.html
> http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/modusoperandi.htm
> http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/n254.htm
> http://www.anti-relativity.com/intro.htm
> http://www.2ubh.com/features/Einstein.html
>
http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-interest-to-white-people/a-closer-look-at-
albert-einstein_1296.html
> http://physics.about.com/od/relativisticmechanics/a/relativity_3.htm
> http://www.samsloan.com/einstein.htm
> http://www-gatago.com/sci/physics/relativity/35713800.html
> http://christianparty.net/johnstachel.htm
> http://www.eduessays.com/Essays-y35801.htm
> http://www.ecampus.com/bk_detail.asp?referrer=617&ISBN=0971962987
> http://www.rense.com/general40/einstein.htm
> http://www.catholicintl.com/noncatholicissues/personal_lives.htm
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282344/posts
> http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep6/ep6-phipps.htm
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5236
> http://einstein52.tripod.com/alberteinsteinprophetorplagiarist/
> http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/einstein.htm
> http://home.comcast.net/~xtxinc/MainPage.htm
> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/041224.html
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/15/einstein_relativity/
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html
>
>
>
>
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:39:05
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Fri, 16 2007 23:33:33 -0800, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Dave Johnson <dj@dj.no >:
>Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
Since until quite a while after Einstein's death no one had
ever heard of bicycle helmets, maybe that's your answer.
When I was growing up *no one* wore helmets to ride
bicycles, and few wore them on motorcycles.
>http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 22:15:03
From: fred
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Dave Johnson wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Keep in mind that Einstein died in 1955, long before we knew that
trillions of people were dying every day because they failed to wear
helmets while cycling.
Next week, we're going to legislate that everyone live in individual
sterile plastic bubbles. That'll put an end to the transmission of
dirty old germs.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 22:16:11
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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fred wrote:
> Dave Johnson wrote:
>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>
>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> Keep in mind that Einstein died in 1955, long before we knew that
> trillions of people were dying every day because they failed to wear
> helmets while cycling.
>
> Next week, we're going to legislate that everyone live in individual
> sterile plastic bubbles. That'll put an end to the transmission of
> dirty old germs.
Christ,
I was riding 2 wheelers in 1955 and even the motorcyclists did not wear
helmets unless they were those WWI German things. 1955. "I want a
bicycle helmet.". Laughter........
Bill Baka
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:24:46
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 18, 1:52 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 12:17 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well, one of the funniest things I ever heard on TV was Jim Lampley
> > reporting on Wimbledon and when he came
> > to some women's player called Frasier who lost in an early round, he
> > said right after "Down goes Frasier, Down goes Frasier!"
> > Just to compare with other commentators, no one thought of that when
> > Paula Newby Frasier fell down in the last km's of the Hawaii Ironman.
>
> Dumbass -
>
> heh heh heh. Maybe they shoulda had you in the booth!
>
> I don't think they put the A team on Ironman broadcasts. More like the
> E team.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.
Wasn't it Jim Lampley himself who covered the first Ironmen? Or was it
RAAM?
-ilan
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:27:24
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <to1c5ixt88to$.1vuy7ucyu23ek$.dlg@40tude.net >,
Dave Johnson <dj@dj.no > writes:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Wearing a cardigan sweater while riding is a
good way to scoop errant bees into your clothing.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 17:52:34
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 12:17 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Well, one of the funniest things I ever heard on TV was Jim Lampley
> reporting on Wimbledon and when he came
> to some women's player called Frasier who lost in an early round, he
> said right after "Down goes Frasier, Down goes Frasier!"
> Just to compare with other commentators, no one thought of that when
> Paula Newby Frasier fell down in the last km's of the Hawaii Ironman.
Dumbass -
heh heh heh. Maybe they shoulda had you in the booth!
I don't think they put the A team on Ironman broadcasts. More like the
E team.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:07:56
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <1174179154.551884.317820@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 12:17 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Well, one of the funniest things I ever heard on TV was Jim Lampley
> > reporting on Wimbledon and when he came
> > to some women's player called Frasier who lost in an early round, he
> > said right after "Down goes Frasier, Down goes Frasier!"
> > Just to compare with other commentators, no one thought of that when
> > Paula Newby Frasier fell down in the last km's of the Hawaii Ironman.
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>
> heh heh heh. Maybe they shoulda had you in the booth!
>
> I don't think they put the A team on Ironman broadcasts. More like the
> E team.
More like the F Troop.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 17:51:17
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 12:59 pm, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 3:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > A brilliant orator can come off as much more intelligent. For example,
> > ever hear Jim Lampley
> > ad-lib? They don't let him do it when doing TV broadcasts, but
> > sometimes you'll hear it on radio. He'll effortlessly throw out two or
> > three words per paragraph that you've never heard of and he uses them
> > in context. The guy's obviously brilliant and anyone who heard an
> > anonymous recording of him, then an anonymous recording of Einstein
> > speaking would probably think Lampley was the ster. And he is, in a
> > certain type of intelligence, but he didn't change mankind's
> > understanding of the universe either.
>
> Oooooh. Very smooth. Letting us infer that since someone used big
> words in context he's brilliant, and that since you understood the
> words as being in context, you're brilliant, too!
Dumbass -
I'm not brilliant. My public speaking is quite lame.
If you ever heard Lampley on radio though, I'd be surprised if you
didn't think he had supreme command of the English language.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 16:16:59
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 11:35 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> Conceptual breakthroughs are very important;
Really?
> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate
> "technical prowess" in physics.
You mean something like not blowing up the lab?
Do you believe the "evaluation of one's prowess" is subjective or
objective? (The answer is in the question.)
You will be evaluated based on your answer.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 16:06:58
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 5:19 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things.
You got that right.
You must be a lot ster than Einstein was -- any one who can figure
out how to use Mathematica effectively must be a super-genius. I'm a
dumbass, so I stick with m-files.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:59:30
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 3:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
> A brilliant orator can come off as much more intelligent. For example,
> ever hear Jim Lampley
> ad-lib? They don't let him do it when doing TV broadcasts, but
> sometimes you'll hear it on radio. He'll effortlessly throw out two or
> three words per paragraph that you've never heard of and he uses them
> in context. The guy's obviously brilliant and anyone who heard an
> anonymous recording of him, then an anonymous recording of Einstein
> speaking would probably think Lampley was the ster. And he is, in a
> certain type of intelligence, but he didn't change mankind's
> understanding of the universe either.
Oooooh. Very smooth. Letting us infer that since someone used big
words in context he's brilliant, and that since you understood the
words as being in context, you're brilliant, too!
Dumbass.
> IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
He didn't bathe - take it from there.
For the definitive "real genius"... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000065U1Q
R
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:54:02
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 4:41 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Ewoud Dronkert" <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:45fc5118$0$69886$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>
> > b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> >> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
> >> prowess" in physics.
>
> > Being a good experimenter.
>
> When I was working in high energy physics we had Dr. Sloan working for us
> and he wouldn't have known what an experiment was let alone be a good
> experimenter. We had another British PhD physicist who would design the
> experiments and prove or disprove Dr. Sloan's maunderings.
>
> Many times when I walked past Dr. Sloan's office he would be curled up in a
> fetal position sleeping on top of his desk. He had to be assigned an
> assistant who would follow him around everywhere since he would walk out the
> door and walk off and get lost.
Um, that wasn't an "office", that was a ward. The "assistant" was an
orderly. Where exactly did you fit in?
R
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 15:13:25
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <1174164842.741599.268250@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 4:41 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > "Ewoud Dronkert" <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
> >
> > news:45fc5118$0$69886$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> >
> > > b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> > >> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
> > >> prowess" in physics.
> >
> > > Being a good experimenter.
> >
> > When I was working in high energy physics we had Dr. Sloan working for us
> > and he wouldn't have known what an experiment was let alone be a good
> > experimenter. We had another British PhD physicist who would design the
> > experiments and prove or disprove Dr. Sloan's maunderings.
> >
> > Many times when I walked past Dr. Sloan's office he would be curled up in a
> > fetal position sleeping on top of his desk. He had to be assigned an
> > assistant who would follow him around everywhere since he would walk out the
> > door and walk off and get lost.
>
> Um, that wasn't an "office", that was a ward. The "assistant" was an
> orderly. Where exactly did you fit in?
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5479/hanniballechter0ss.png
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:52:10
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 2:35 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> On 17, 5:19 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>
> > > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> > >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> > I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> > of intelligence in all things. He was
> > a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> > breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> > technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> > were better problem solvers or
> > had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> > impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>
> Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> in physics.
dumbass,
LaTeX skills obviously.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:17:19
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 8:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 17, 10:35 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> > know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> > in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
> > that he was no Einstein.
>
> > Ben
>
> Dumbass -
>
> What he did was so very impressive because it altered mankind's
> understanding of the universe. That's a rare thing.
>
> A brilliant orator can come off as much more intelligent. For example,
> ever hear Jim Lampley
> ad-lib? They don't let him do it when doing TV broadcasts, but
> sometimes you'll hear it on radio. He'll effortlessly throw out two or
> three words per paragraph that you've never heard of and he uses them
> in context. The guy's obviously brilliant and anyone who heard an
> anonymous recording of him, then an anonymous recording of Einstein
> speaking would probably think Lampley was the ster. And he is, in a
> certain type of intelligence, but he didn't change mankind's
> understanding of the universe either.
>
> IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
> Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.
Well, one of the funniest things I ever heard on TV was Jim Lampley
reporting on Wimbledon and when he came
to some women's player called Frasier who lost in an early round, he
said right after "Down goes Frasier, Down goes Frasier!"
Just to compare with other commentators, no one thought of that when
Paula Newby Frasier fell down in the last km's of the Hawaii Ironman.
On the other hand, I have heard Albert Einstein ad libbing, and it was
quite good. You can hear it in the extras of the DVD's
of the Simpsons first season. Check it out.
-ilan
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 12:40:43
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 10:35 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
>
> Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
> that he was no Einstein.
>
> Ben
Dumbass -
What he did was so very impressive because it altered mankind's
understanding of the universe. That's a rare thing.
A brilliant orator can come off as much more intelligent. For example,
ever hear Jim Lampley
ad-lib? They don't let him do it when doing TV broadcasts, but
sometimes you'll hear it on radio. He'll effortlessly throw out two or
three words per paragraph that you've never heard of and he uses them
in context. The guy's obviously brilliant and anyone who heard an
anonymous recording of him, then an anonymous recording of Einstein
speaking would probably think Lampley was the ster. And he is, in a
certain type of intelligence, but he didn't change mankind's
understanding of the universe either.
IMO, the person who's name should be synonymous with pure genius is
Leonardo di Vinci. I wonder what his personal presence was like.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 11:35:48
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
On 17, 5:19 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>
> > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things. He was
> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> were better problem solvers or
> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
that he was no Einstein.
Ben
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:35:26
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
> prowess" in physics.
Being a good experimenter.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 10:36:04
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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in message <45fc5118$0$69886$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >, Ewoud Dronkert
('firstname@lastname.net.invalid') wrote:
> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
>> prowess" in physics.
>
> Being a good experimenter.
In theory, Einstein was a good experimenter.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 20:41:45
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
"Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote in message
news:45fc5118$0$69886$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> I don't know exactly how one would evaluate "technical
>> prowess" in physics.
>
> Being a good experimenter.
When I was working in high energy physics we had Dr. Sloan working for us
and he wouldn't have known what an experiment was let alone be a good
experimenter. We had another British PhD physicist who would design the
experiments and prove or disprove Dr. Sloan's maunderings.
Many times when I walked past Dr. Sloan's office he would be curled up in a
fetal position sleeping on top of his desk. He had to be assigned an
assistant who would follow him around everywhere since he would walk out the
door and walk off and get lost.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:47:12
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote in
news:1174156548.430457.309850@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
> Conceptual breakthroughs are very important; I don't
> know exactly how one would evaluate "technical prowess"
> in physics. Nevertheless, even Einstein admitted
> that he was no Einstein.
You can't trust his opinion. Better to take it from someone like Joe
Theisman who said:
"A genius is somebody like Norman Einstein."
Too bad Theisman didn't also give an example of a dumbass by using himself.
NS
One beer mug
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 11:18:01
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
On 17, 1:19 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>
> > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things. He was
> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> were better problem solvers or
> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>
> -ilan
I heard a possibly apocryphal story in which Einstein was in the
Princeton math department lounge complaining about all the media
attention he was getting, and Solomon Lefschetz, the chairman of the
math department, told him: "Why don't you just cut your hair?"
-ilan
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 11:04:28
From:
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 3:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no > wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
these "pro helmet" zealots are typically new to cycling and a result
of the Lance era. We can only hope cycling becomes obscure again and
the pro-helmet crowd go back to roller blading and prozac user groups.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 07:41:32
From: gb6724@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
On 17, 8:36 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 17, 8:12 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > > > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> > > >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> > > Mandatory walking helmets.
>
> > > Its the Americans suburbs! Isolated Christians digging bunkers for
> > > world war
> > > III, and wearing walking bomb helmets, part of the mid-east
> > > circumcized
> > > radical extremist...
>
> > Skateboard dudes don't wear helmets only when they are on TV
> > in a pro-competition.
>
> > There is safe riding and there is competitive riding.
>
> > Tour de France riders have helmets.
>
> None of the old people in Europe or Asia who use bicycles daily
> wear helmets. Never argue with circumcized people. Ancient
> chinese wisdom.
Einstein excluded to the rule.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 07:36:56
From: gb6724@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
On 17, 8:12 am, "gb6...@yahoo.com" <gb6...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> > > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> > >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> > Mandatory walking helmets.
>
> > Its the Americans suburbs! Isolated Christians digging bunkers for
> > world war
> > III, and wearing walking bomb helmets, part of the mid-east
> > circumcized
> > radical extremist...
>
> Skateboard dudes don't wear helmets only when they are on TV
> in a pro-competition.
>
> There is safe riding and there is competitive riding.
>
> Tour de France riders have helmets.
None of the old people in Europe or Asia who use bicycles daily
wear helmets. Never argue with circumcized people. Ancient
chinese wisdom.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 07:12:50
From: gb6724@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
> > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> >http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> Mandatory walking helmets.
>
> Its the Americans suburbs! Isolated Christians digging bunkers for
> world war
> III, and wearing walking bomb helmets, part of the mid-east
> circumcized
> radical extremist...
Skateboard dudes don't wear helmets only when they are on TV
in a pro-competition.
There is safe riding and there is competitive riding.
Tour de France riders have helmets.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 06:55:36
From: gb6724@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Mandatory walking helmets.
Its the Americans suburbs! Isolated Christians digging bunkers for
world war
III, and wearing walking bomb helmets, part of the mid-east
circumcized
radical extremist...
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 06:19:22
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
Dave Johnson wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Nah, he's playing dice with his knees - look how low the saddle is!
He'll blow them out before he's ... um... seventy?
k J.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 05:19:27
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no > wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
of intelligence in all things. He was
a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
were better problem solvers or
had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
-ilan
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 05:43:34
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
In article
<1174133966.107177.327010@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
> > Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> > st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
> >
> > http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things. He was
> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> were better problem solvers or
> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
I will not argue his technical capacity. But before you
attempt to debunk his reputation again get yourself a
copy of "The Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies". Also
you could have a gander at
Investigations_on_The_Theory_Of_The_Browninan_Movement
available in a Dover edition. English translation of EDMB.
<http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf >
About the only phyisicist of note who had a bad thing
to say about Uncle Albert is that boring old fart, Niels Bohr.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:10:03
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <1174133966.107177.327010@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> "ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>
>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
>> were better problem solvers or
>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>
> I will not argue his technical capacity. But before you
> attempt to debunk his reputation again get yourself a
> copy of "The Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies". Also
> you could have a gander at
> Investigations_on_The_Theory_Of_The_Browninan_Movement
> available in a Dover edition. English translation of EDMB.
>
> <http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf>
>
> About the only phyisicist of note who had a bad thing
> to say about Uncle Albert is that boring old fart, Niels Bohr.
Niels had his reasons. They didn't have a lot to do with Einstein's
fashion sense, and so they are out-of-bounds for this discussion.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 16:10:31
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
|
"Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh > wrote in =
message news:a5idncuYkK3Ty2DYnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Michael Press wrote:
>> In article=20
>> <1174133966.107177.327010@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>> "ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so =
seemingly
>>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>>
>>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
>>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
>>> were better problem solvers or
>>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>>=20
>> I will not argue his technical capacity. But before you
>> attempt to debunk his reputation again get yourself a
>> copy of "The Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies".=20
What a load of old rubbish. Obviously the moron Einstein knew
no mathematics or had any technical capacity. A copy of
said "The Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies" is available
on the web, http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/,
with a critique here.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/St/St.htm
"Michael Press" is a hero-worshipping cretin.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 02:06:30
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk > wrote in message
news:XvdLh.1533$MR6.324@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Michael Press" is a hero-worshipping cretin.
You must think that you're Gene Mallove.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 07:14:08
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message =
news:Gq0Mh.15759$Jl.2336@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message=20
> news:XvdLh.1533$MR6.324@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> "Michael Press" is a hero-worshipping cretin.
>=20
> You must think that you're Gene Mallove.
>=20
You must think you have a brain.
Clap, clap, clap, everyone, c'mon now, applaud.
The fuckhead calling itself "Tom Kunich" manages to snip
everything and write a one-line thrill response in praise of his=20
own hero.=20
"God does not play dice." - Einstein.
"Yes I do, Einstein doesn't like losing." - God.
*plonk*
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 17:46:09
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Androcles" wrote: (clip) Obviously the moron Einstein knew
no mathematics or had any technical capacity. (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
We are feeding a troll.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 16:08:16
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sun, 18 2007 17:46:09 GMT, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by "Leo Lichtman"
<l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net >:
>
>"Androcles" wrote: (clip) Obviously the moron Einstein knew
>no mathematics or had any technical capacity. (clip)
Yeah, a Nobel for the photoelectric effect, plus all his
work on SR and GR (including, IIRC, the invention of tensor
calculus), definitely shows Einstein to have been ignorant
of physics and math.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>We are feeding a troll.
Sounds like it, doesn't it? But I seem to recall "Androcles"
from several years back. He vanished, and it may be that
he's just now been released from therapy. If so, it doesn't
seem to have helped.
Or maybe someone pulled a thorn out of his ass, and thereby
let all his "knowledge" escape to annoy the adults (the
"Pandora's Butt" effect).
Or he may be a bona fide neoNazi; they're obsessed with
proving that Einstein stole everything from the Master Race.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 08:23:00
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Bob Casanova wrote:
>
>
> Or he may be a bona fide neoNazi; they're obsessed with
> proving that Einstein stole everything from the Master Race.
Thanks Godwin. NEXT!
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 18:11:11
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Mon, 19 2007 08:23:00 +0100, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com >:
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>>
>>
>> Or he may be a bona fide neoNazi; they're obsessed with
>> proving that Einstein stole everything from the Master Race.
>
>Thanks Godwin. NEXT!
Sorry; doesn't qualify. NEXT!
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:39:18
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Mon, 19 2007 08:23:00 +0100, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com>:
>
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>
>>> Or he may be a bona fide neoNazi; they're obsessed with
>>> proving that Einstein stole everything from the Master Race.
>> Thanks Godwin. NEXT!
>
> Sorry; doesn't qualify. NEXT!
Not even a corollary? Please?
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 15:14:59
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Tue, 20 2007 20:39:18 +0100, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com >:
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 2007 08:23:00 +0100, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com>:
>>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Or he may be a bona fide neoNazi; they're obsessed with
>>>> proving that Einstein stole everything from the Master Race.
>>> Thanks Godwin. NEXT!
>>
>> Sorry; doesn't qualify. NEXT!
>
>Not even a corollary? Please?
Nope; sorry. Godwin's Law only applies to *non-relevant*
references to Nazis; based on the content of Androcles' post
it seemed quite relevant.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 06:41:06
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <cngrv21hats6uufev5cau9d5me1iq6lvpt@4ax.com >,
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off > wrote:
> Yeah, a Nobel for the photoelectric effect, plus all his
> work on SR and GR (including, IIRC, the invention of tensor
> calculus), definitely shows Einstein to have been ignorant
> of physics and math.
Tensor calculus can be traced back to Riemann.
Tullio Levi-Civita developed much of it,
Einstein acknowledged help he received
on the mathematics.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 18:10:43
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Mon, 19 2007 06:41:06 GMT, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >:
>In article <cngrv21hats6uufev5cau9d5me1iq6lvpt@4ax.com>,
> Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, a Nobel for the photoelectric effect, plus all his
>> work on SR and GR (including, IIRC, the invention of tensor
>> calculus), definitely shows Einstein to have been ignorant
>> of physics and math.
>
>Tensor calculus can be traced back to Riemann.
>Tullio Levi-Civita developed much of it,
>Einstein acknowledged help he received
>on the mathematics.
OK; thanks for the correction. It doesn't change my point
appreciably, however.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 21:31:01
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message news:BVeLh.96400$as2.12782@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Androcles" wrote: (clip) Obviously the moron Einstein knew
> no mathematics or had any technical capacity. (clip)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> We are feeding a troll.
This particular troll feeds itself entirely:
Boolean algebra:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORrevisited.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORContinued.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORpersistence.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORWildStab.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LooksBoolean.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XORforever.html
differentials:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/DiffConst.html
integrals:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Integral.html
geometry:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SimpleEnough.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FullyAware.html
transformations:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroTransform.html
calculations:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/FALSE.html
groups:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroGroups.html
logs:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LogsHuh.html
vectors:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/IdiotVectors.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroVec.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/VectorLength.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/VectorSpaces.html
polar coordinates:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PolarManager.html
limits:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Limit.html
equations:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GOGI-GIGO.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Doofus.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SetSolve2.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Persuasive.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AndroDistri.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Pythagoras.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/ToothlessBite.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Competent.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/UseTrans.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Sheesh.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SetSolve.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/DivZero.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Think.html
square roots:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GoodTeachers.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/TwoTurds.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/STILL.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/CanSpecify.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Nearly.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Quadratic.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GrowUp.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Tautology.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Material.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/GIVEN.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PythagoRescue.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtRev.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NegSqrt.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Humour.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/SqrtAnswers.html
partial differential equations:
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff2.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff3.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/PartialDiff4.html
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/NotFxy.html
Dirk Vdm
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 09:47:59
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> Boolean algebra:
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Gibberish.html
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/XOROnceMore.html
.be - it must be Boonen algebra.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 08:20:29
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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ilan wrote:
> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>
>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things. He was
> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> were better problem solvers or
> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
It's all about an inability to differentiate. You're either st or
you're dumb. You're either a war-mongering, earth raping Republican or a
wimpy, tree hugging Democrat. Sorry for the US centric sentence there,
but I don't know how to translate that to french. I'm sure it
translates, though. You're either a Shiite or a Sunni (with apologies to
any Kurds out there but, frankly, you don't count). Etc., etc.
Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain st.
Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:54:34
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh > wrote in =
message news:OcWdnVFJlYDdmmHYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com...
> ilan wrote:
>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so =
seemingly
>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>
>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>=20
>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
>> were better problem solvers or
>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>=20
> It's all about an inability to differentiate. You're either st or=20
> you're dumb. You're either a war-mongering, earth raping Republican or =
a=20
> wimpy, tree hugging Democrat. Sorry for the US centric sentence =
there,=20
> but I don't know how to translate that to french. I'm sure it=20
> translates, though. You're either a Shiite or a Sunni (with apologies =
to=20
> any Kurds out there but, frankly, you don't count). Etc., etc.
>=20
> Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain st.=20
> Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead, although
your poor little brain wouldn't know just how stupid he was
since you only have yourself to differentiate with.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:40:57
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sat, 17 2007 21:54:34 GMT, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
<Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk >:
<snip >
>Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead
Another idiot heard from...
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 13:21:12
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off > wrote in message =
news:hlgpv2hstt3v2294l639496aif62u807nb@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 2007 21:54:34 GMT, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
> <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>:
>=20
> <snip>
Oh, if you insist.
Try *plonk*, fuckhead.
Now think hard about a new name.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 15:52:34
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sun, 18 2007 13:21:12 GMT, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
<Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk >:
>
>"Bob Casanova" <nospam@buzz.off> wrote in message news:hlgpv2hstt3v2294l639496aif62u807nb@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 17 2007 21:54:34 GMT, the following appeared in
>> sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
>> <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>:
>>
>> <snip>
>
>Oh, if you insist.
Oh, I do, I do...
>Try *plonk*, fuckhead.
OK, I'll plonk the moron (that's you, for the terminally
clueless).
<plonk! >
Better now?
>Now think hard about a new name.
Maybe you could try "Butthead"? That seem to fit you rather
well...
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 22:12:50
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Sat, 17 2007 21:54:34 GMT, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
> <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk>:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead
>
> Another idiot heard from...
Guys,
Mickey Mantle was the most famous baseball player for the Yankees, but
off the field a kid who asked for his autograph got "Get the hell out of
my way, kid.". What you think you see is not always what you get.
Einstein may have been a type of 'Savant' with zero IQ in fashion and a
'drunk redneck' personality, but he knew what HE was doing. People went
nuts tried to figure out the equations he came up with for his theories
on Relativity. Now that we have computers it checks out.
How do you define a guy without whom we may not have been able to build
an atomic bomb? He wanted it used for peaceful purposes, but you know
what happens when the government gets hold of it.
Einstein didn't need to comb his hair. Better to protect the brain.
Bill Baka
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:07:36
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sat, 17 2007 22:12:50 -0700, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
>What you think you see is not always what you get.
>Einstein may have been a type of 'Savant' with zero IQ in fashion and a
>'drunk redneck' personality, but he knew what HE was doing. People went
>nuts tried to figure out the equations he came up with for his theories
>on Relativity. Now that we have computers it checks out.
>How do you define a guy without whom we may not have been able to build
>an atomic bomb? He wanted it used for peaceful purposes, but you know
>what happens when the government gets hold of it.
>Einstein didn't need to comb his hair. Better to protect the brain.
>Bill Baka
Not really. And even he tried to downplay the 'genius' thing.
He was part of the surge back then, not the surge.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 23:01:24
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk > wrote in message news:usZKh.23$MR6.6@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh > wrote in message news:OcWdnVFJlYDdmmHYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com...
[snip]
> > Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain st.
> > Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
>
> Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead, although
> your poor little brain wouldn't know just how stupid he was
> since you only have yourself to differentiate with.
Here's what Androcles has to differentiate himself with:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=arse+OR+arsehole+OR+cunt+author%3Aandrocles
More on
http://www.google.com/search?q=androcles+site:users%2etelenet%2ebe
Dirk Vdm
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 15:59:39
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Androcles wrote:
> "Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote in message news:OcWdnVFJlYDdmmHYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com...
>> ilan wrote:
>>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>>
>>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
>>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
>>> were better problem solvers or
>>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>> It's all about an inability to differentiate. You're either st or
>> you're dumb. You're either a war-mongering, earth raping Republican or a
>> wimpy, tree hugging Democrat. Sorry for the US centric sentence there,
>> but I don't know how to translate that to french. I'm sure it
>> translates, though. You're either a Shiite or a Sunni (with apologies to
>> any Kurds out there but, frankly, you don't count). Etc., etc.
>>
>> Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain st.
>> Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
>
> Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead, although
> your poor little brain wouldn't know just how stupid he was
> since you only have yourself to differentiate with.
I am honored to have been grouped with Einstein as the object of your scorn.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 23:40:53
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh > wrote in =
message news:IJedneh-Y-9D72HYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Androcles wrote:
>> "Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote in =
message news:OcWdnVFJlYDdmmHYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> ilan wrote:
>>>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so =
seemingly
>>>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an =
example
>>>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>>>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>>>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>>>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists =
who
>>>> were better problem solvers or
>>>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>>>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>>> It's all about an inability to differentiate. You're either st =
or=20
>>> you're dumb. You're either a war-mongering, earth raping Republican =
or a=20
>>> wimpy, tree hugging Democrat. Sorry for the US centric sentence =
there,=20
>>> but I don't know how to translate that to french. I'm sure it=20
>>> translates, though. You're either a Shiite or a Sunni (with =
apologies to=20
>>> any Kurds out there but, frankly, you don't count). Etc., etc.
>>>
>>> Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain =
st.=20
>>> Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
>>=20
>> Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead, although
>> your poor little brain wouldn't know just how stupid he was
>> since you only have yourself to differentiate with.
>=20
> I am honored to have been grouped with Einstein as the object of your =
scorn.
Where a jacket like this, do you?
http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)=20
pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the=20
Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.=20
Just look at the creases in those lapels.
Or one like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dvx35zMyFJ94
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:43:19
From: Bob Casanova
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sat, 17 2007 23:40:53 GMT, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by "Androcles"
<Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk >:
<snip >
>Where a jacket like this, do you?
"Where jacket?"
"There jacket!"
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 20:22:08
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Androcles wrote:
>
> "Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote in message
> news:IJedneh-Y-9D72HYnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Androcles wrote:
>>> "Fred Fredburger" <FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote in
>>> message news:OcWdnVFJlYDdmmHYnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> ilan wrote:
>>>>> On 17, 8:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>>>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so
>>>>>> seemingly st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>>>> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
>>>>> of intelligence in all things. He was
>>>>> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
>>>>> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
>>>>> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
>>>>> were better problem solvers or
>>>>> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
>>>>> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
>>>> It's all about an inability to differentiate. You're either st or
>>>> you're dumb. You're either a war-mongering, earth raping Republican or
>>>> a
>>>> wimpy, tree hugging Democrat. Sorry for the US centric sentence there,
>>>> but I don't know how to translate that to french. I'm sure it
>>>> translates, though. You're either a Shiite or a Sunni (with apologies
>>>> to
>>>> any Kurds out there but, frankly, you don't count). Etc., etc.
>>>>
>>>> Einstein was demonstrably "st", therefore he was just plain st.
>>>> Anything else would make my poor little brain hurt.
>>>
>>> Einstein was demonstrably scruffy and a fuckhead, although
>>> your poor little brain wouldn't know just how stupid he was
>>> since you only have yourself to differentiate with.
>>
>> I am honored to have been grouped with Einstein as the object of your
>> scorn.
>
> Where a jacket like this, do you?
> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
> Or one like this?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx35zMyFJ94
I know we've only just met but I feel as if I've known you forever.
Everything you say has a certain ... familiarity. As if I know what you'll
say before you say it. Tell me, do you have an opinion on global warming?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:12:51
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk > wrote in message
news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Where a jacket like this, do you?
> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml but
heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 21:20:46
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <7u%Kh.18855$zJ1.16438@newsfe24.lga >, "Carl Sundquist"
<carlsun@cox.net > wrote:
> "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> > Where a jacket like this, do you?
> > http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
> > That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
> > pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
> > Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
> > Just look at the creases in those lapels.
>
> Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml but
> heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.
And Carl gets the LANCE - NARB link into a thread about Einstein! Or
helmets, whichever...
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 07:40:51
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <7u%Kh.18855$zJ1.16438@newsfe24.lga>, "Carl Sundquist"
> <carlsun@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>>> Where a jacket like this, do you?
>>> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
>>> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
>>> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
>>> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
>>> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
>> Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml but
>> heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.
>
> And Carl gets the LANCE - NARB link into a thread about Einstein! Or
> helmets, whichever...
It goes with anything!
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 14:10:16
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
> "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>> Where a jacket like this, do you?
>> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
>> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
>> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
>> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
>> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
>
> Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml
> but heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 18:05:26
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <567gdgF27jdt8U1@mid.individual.net >,
"Robert Chung" <me@address.invalid > wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> >> Where a jacket like this, do you?
> >> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
> >> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
> >> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
> >> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
> >> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
> >
> > Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml
> > but heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
So all those women who claim to scope out
mens' buttocks have been lying?
--
Michael Press
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 17:48:56
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:rubrum-EF6FC5.11052419032007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
>
> So all those women who claim to scope out
> mens' buttocks have been lying?
I was wondering about women checking out other women's breasts. Not in a
sexual desire way, but in a competitive are-mine-better-than-hers kind of
way.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 10:54:34
From: Eric Hocking
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net > wrote in message
news:trELh.1132$s8.257@newsfe21.lga...
>
> "Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:rubrum-EF6FC5.11052419032007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
>>
>> So all those women who claim to scope out
>> mens' buttocks have been lying?
>
> I was wondering about women checking out other women's breasts. Not in a
> sexual desire way, but in a competitive are-mine-better-than-hers kind of
> way.
I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
their rivals' packages...
I couldn't see how the boingboing article was about scoping out buttocks
when it was a "full frontal" (and incorrectly spelled crotch)
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:56:11
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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Michael Press wrote:
>> I was wondering about women checking out other women's breasts. Not in a
>> sexual desire way, but in a competitive are-mine-better-than-hers kind of
>> way.
Eric Hocking wrote:
> I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
> their rivals' packages...
Dumbass,
Real cyclists only check out their rivals' packages to see if they're more
aero than their own.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 01:55:58
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Eric Hocking" <ehocking@REMOVE_THIS_BIT_btinternet.com > wrote in message
news:iP6dnbAi2rTAIGLYnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
> their rivals' packages...
Contrary to most of the "regulars" here - real men don't really "check out
their rivals packages". Though I think that you'll find that Asher, Kveck,
Russell and a few others are very interested.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 22:10:10
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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In article <Og0Mh.15757$Jl.4972@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom
Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Eric Hocking" <ehocking@REMOVE_THIS_BIT_btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:iP6dnbAi2rTAIGLYnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com...
> >
> > I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
> > their rivals' packages...
>
> Contrary to most of the "regulars" here - real men don't really "check out
> their rivals packages". Though I think that you'll find that Asher, Kveck,
> Russell and a few others are very interested.
Wishful thinking, eh, Tommy?
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:39:10
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Tue, 20 2007 10:54:34 -0000, "Eric Hocking"
<ehocking@REMOVE_THIS_BIT_btinternet.com > wrote:
>
>"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:trELh.1132$s8.257@newsfe21.lga...
>>
>> "Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:rubrum-EF6FC5.11052419032007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/14/men_stare_at_crotche.html
>>>
>>> So all those women who claim to scope out
>>> mens' buttocks have been lying?
>>
>> I was wondering about women checking out other women's breasts. Not in a
>> sexual desire way, but in a competitive are-mine-better-than-hers kind of
>> way.
>
>I the same way that the example given indicated to me that men check out
>their rivals' packages...
>
>I couldn't see how the boingboing article was about scoping out buttocks
>when it was a "full frontal" (and incorrectly spelled crotch)
Is it possible that this test has only proven that women are more aware of
having their gaze watched and/or that men look anyway. Both are reasonsable
hypotheses based on general observation. Women seem to see more without looking
as proven by their ability to catch men looking.
Ron
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 00:31:52
From: Androcles
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net > wrote in message =
news:7u%Kh.18855$zJ1.16438@newsfe24.lga...
>=20
> "Androcles" <Engineer@hogwarts.physics.co.uk> wrote in message=20
> news:90%Kh.146045$1E3.34192@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>=20
>> Where a jacket like this, do you?
>> http://oisc.net/scientist.jpg
>> That's Albert Michelson with a smirk on his face (a real physicist)
>> pointing the finger at the scruffy idiot in the baggy pants and the
>> Mohican hairstyle. Michelson knew.
>> Just look at the creases in those lapels.
>=20
> Just look at the distended front in those trousers. Not unlike=20
> =
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml =
but=20
> heading north. The smirk may be for a reason other than you think.=20
The con artistry may be for a reason probably for what you think=20
because he was useless at mathematics and very good at philandering.
=20
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 15:10:53
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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ilan wrote:
> I am continually bewildered at the example of Einstein as an example
> of intelligence in all things. He was
> a scientist who have a significant number of conceptual
> breakthroughs, but I don't believe he was known for great
> technical prowess in his field. There were many other physicists who
> were better problem solvers or
> had more purely technical innovation. To the layman the most
> impressive thing about Einstein is his hair.
Yes, but did he dope like Ryan's favourite mathematician ? (Although it
has been alleged on this group that astrophysicists are too cheapskate to
dope)
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 04:58:10
From: Seven Seas Oscirius
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 17, 12:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no > wrote:
> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
Besides, it's illegal to ride a bike without a helmet.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 06:10:08
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On 3/17/07 5:58 AM, in article
1174132690.339418.122410@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Seven Seas Oscirius"
<brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
> On 17, 12:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>
>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>
> Besides, it's illegal to ride a bike without a helmet.
Not in New Jersey (where the photo was taken), Utah, or California.
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 12:24:46
From:
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sat, 17 2007 06:10:08 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield"
<stevens@veloworks.com > wrote:
>On 3/17/07 5:58 AM, in article
>1174132690.339418.122410@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Seven Seas Oscirius"
><brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 17, 12:33 am, Dave Johnson <d...@dj.no> wrote:
>>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>>
>>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>>
>> Besides, it's illegal to ride a bike without a helmet.
>
>
>
>Not in New Jersey (where the photo was taken), Utah, or California.
>
Nor in many cycle-friendly countries - the Netherlands, the
UKofGBandNI, China, and India come to mind...
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 10:47:12
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>
> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
------
The obvious answer is that he had figured out statistically, that the
chances of something happening to him, were next to nothing. Remember, this
was before the age of the cell phone. In the age of the cell phone, it is
almost certain, sometime in your life you will launched from your bike, by a
cell phone using motorist. I don't think Albert would even get near a bike
in today's hostile environment.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 12:12:17
From:
Subject: Re: Einstein played dice with the universe
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On Sat, 17 2007 10:47:12 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
<jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Or at least, he played dice with his head! How can someone so seemingly
>> st ride a bicycle without a helmet?
>>
>> http://vivian-folkenflik.org/VRF%20Sources/Einstein%20bicycle.jpg
>------
> The obvious answer is that he had figured out statistically, that the
>chances of something happening to him, were next to nothing. Remember, this
>was before the age of the cell phone. In the age of the cell phone, it is
>almost certain, sometime in your life you will launched from your bike, by a
>cell phone using motorist. I don't think Albert would even get near a bike
>in today's hostile environment.
>
Well, no.
The odds of death while cycling are usually cited as something like
one per 450 years.
That's one per 450 years of cycling non-stop, 24 hours a day.
Cellular telephones may have affected this, but even if it was by an
order of magnitude (how likely is that?) the chance of dying while
cycling for the average person (who spends - let's be generous - less
than 10% of their hours on a cycle) is still far less than the chance
of dying from any other cause.
On the side of the pro-MHL crazies we have the infamous study of TRT,
which showed a large reduction in leg injuries from wearing helmets.
Junk science, in other words.
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