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Date: 25 Aug 2007 13:54:07
From: Bill C
Subject: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
the US and have an effective weapon.:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaGGTO_tYL.1ZK.HGs0NUE
Quoted:
"We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
just skyrocketed," he said.
The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
Bill C
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 11:02:48
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On Aug 27, 11:56 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> you could probably float a bond issue big enough to pay for it
aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> As for Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure they're not energy-independent
> right now, ...
aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That stuff just rolls off your tongue like nuttin.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 06:23:40
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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In article <1188324168.372401.33080@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
SLAVE of THE STATE <gwhite@ti.com > wrote:
> On Aug 27, 11:56 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > you could probably float a bond issue big enough to pay for it
>
> aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!
>
> > As for Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure they're not energy-independent
> > right now, ...
>
> aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!
>
>
> That stuff just rolls off your tongue like nuttin.
I'm in a state of bliss.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 18:12:28
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com > wrote in message
news:1188324168.372401.33080@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 27, 11:56 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
>> you could probably float a bond issue big enough to pay for it
>
> aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>> As for Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure they're not energy-independent
>> right now, ...
>
> aaaaaaaeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> That stuff just rolls off your tongue like nuttin.
Yeah, ain't it surprising how reality never seems to enter into these
people's thinking?
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 09:45:27
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Yeah, ain't it surprising how reality never seems to enter into these
> people's thinking?
Irony, thy name is Kunich !
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 14:04:44
From:
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On Aug 27, 8:15 am, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice > wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in messagenews:13d48217orrp140@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
> > "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote in message
> >news:04KdnU2xEOmNb0zbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> >> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote in message
> >>news:UsgAi.2569$Pd4.497@edtnps82...
> >>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> >>>> Jim Flom wrote:
> >>>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one
> >>>>> burping cow may
> >>>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
> >>>>> cattle
> >>>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
> >>>>> significant
> >>>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
> >>>>>http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>
> >>>>> And Tom.
>
> >>>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
>
> >>> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
>
> >> "The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega tons
> >> of dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year.
> >> Maybe deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used as
> >> a fuel source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
>
> > Phil, reduction of carbon is a great deal easier done with genetic
> > engineered lifeforms. The problem is this: the energy requirements of
> > modern society are so high that we cannot feed the world and supply
> > energy per capita as we are presently doing not to mention the
> > increasing appetite for energy that we see reflected in the use of
> > SUV's and world wide use of air conditioning.
>
> Yes Tom, these things are easier said than done. 178 000 tera watts of
> solar radiation hits the earth; total human energy consumption in 2004
> was 15 tera watts. The potential is there, having the will to utilize
> and develop the technolgy to harness it is an issue.
Pretending that number is sensible: the earth is 7/8ths water so only
22,000 terawatts are easily availble for harvesting. Of that amount
the plant life requires 90% of it leaving some 2200 terawatts. This,
mind you, on an area of 149 million sq km. meaning that there ain't a
lot of power on any surface at any time that allows us to harvest it
economically. This indicates that 22 x 10^14 watts is some 15
megawatts per square kilometer. Conversion from heat to electricity
can't much exceed 5% in real terms (subtracting out pie in the sky
numbers that ignore cloud cover and nighttime) so that means that out
of a sq km we could get 3/4ths of a megawatt.
The present cost of conversion runs about 25 cents per kilowatt hour
so that available enerrgy would run about $200,000
So we could probably set up a really nice power grid that MIGHT work
out for a mere $3,750,000,000,000. Of course that ignores the fact
that we would have to build the factories that could build the solar
cells in sufficient quantities. Not to mention clearing all that land
- Rhode Island might have trouble finding enough land to use. And how
are these things going to be mounted again? What happens to the land
under the cells which are now permanently shadowed?
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 06:56:17
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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In article <1188248684.368755.164390@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
cyclintom@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 27, 8:15 am, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in
> > messagenews:13d48217orrp140@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote in message
> > >news:04KdnU2xEOmNb0zbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >
> > >> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:UsgAi.2569$Pd4.497@edtnps82...
> > >>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> > >>>> Jim Flom wrote:
> > >>>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one
> > >>>>> burping cow may
> > >>>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
> > >>>>> cattle
> > >>>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
> > >>>>> significant
> > >>>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
> > >>>>>http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
> >
> > >>>>> And Tom.
> >
> > >>>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
> >
> > >>> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
> >
> > >> "The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega tons
> > >> of dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year.
> > >> Maybe deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used as
> > >> a fuel source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
> >
> > > Phil, reduction of carbon is a great deal easier done with genetic
> > > engineered lifeforms. The problem is this: the energy requirements of
> > > modern society are so high that we cannot feed the world and supply
> > > energy per capita as we are presently doing not to mention the
> > > increasing appetite for energy that we see reflected in the use of
> > > SUV's and world wide use of air conditioning.
> >
> > Yes Tom, these things are easier said than done. 178 000 tera watts of
> > solar radiation hits the earth; total human energy consumption in 2004
> > was 15 tera watts. The potential is there, having the will to utilize
> > and develop the technolgy to harness it is an issue.
>
> Pretending that number is sensible: the earth is 7/8ths water so only
> 22,000 terawatts are easily availble for harvesting. Of that amount
> the plant life requires 90% of it leaving some 2200 terawatts. This,
> mind you, on an area of 149 million sq km. meaning that there ain't a
> lot of power on any surface at any time that allows us to harvest it
> economically. This indicates that 22 x 10^14 watts is some 15
> megawatts per square kilometer. Conversion from heat to electricity
> can't much exceed 5% in real terms (subtracting out pie in the sky
> numbers that ignore cloud cover and nighttime) so that means that out
> of a sq km we could get 3/4ths of a megawatt.
>
> The present cost of conversion runs about 25 cents per kilowatt hour
> so that available enerrgy would run about $200,000
>
> So we could probably set up a really nice power grid that MIGHT work
> out for a mere $3,750,000,000,000. Of course that ignores the fact
> that we would have to build the factories that could build the solar
> cells in sufficient quantities. Not to mention clearing all that land
> - Rhode Island might have trouble finding enough land to use. And how
> are these things going to be mounted again? What happens to the land
> under the cells which are now permanently shadowed?
>
> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
I am the farthest thing from a green-power True Believer (well, this
side of a peak-oil anti-speculator, at least) but $4 trillion actually
sounds really cheap for a global power-generation infrastructure (it
would be much less than 10% of global GDP, or less than a fifth of the
US GDP; you could probably float a bond issue big enough to pay for it).
I doubt you could buy a new copy of the current global power generation
infrastructure for that kind of money, and I'd bet the market value of
the global power assets would far exceed that same figure.
As for Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure they're not energy-independent
right now, so solar power wouldn't be all that scary. I assume that US
solar power generation would be concentrated in, er, the Sun Belt, or at
least in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico the California desert, and other
vast wastelands.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 20:43:01
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> As for Rhode Island, I'm pretty sure they're not energy-independent
> right now, so solar power wouldn't be all that scary. I assume that US
> solar power generation would be concentrated in, er, the Sun Belt, or at
> least in Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico the California desert, and other
> vast wastelands.
>
How many solar panels could Tom's cranium support?
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 16:30:07
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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<cyclintom@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1188248684.368755.164390@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 27, 8:15 am, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote:
>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in
>> messagenews:13d48217orrp140@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote in message
>> >news:04KdnU2xEOmNb0zbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> >> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:UsgAi.2569$Pd4.497@edtnps82...
>> >>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> >>>> Jim Flom wrote:
>> >>>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one
>> >>>>> burping cow may
>> >>>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
>> >>>>> cattle
>> >>>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
>> >>>>> significant
>> >>>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>> >>>>>http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>>
>> >>>>> And Tom.
>>
>> >>>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
>>
>> >>> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
>>
>> >> "The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega
>> >> tons
>> >> of dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year.
>> >> Maybe deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used
>> >> as
>> >> a fuel source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
>>
>> > Phil, reduction of carbon is a great deal easier done with genetic
>> > engineered lifeforms. The problem is this: the energy requirements
>> > of
>> > modern society are so high that we cannot feed the world and supply
>> > energy per capita as we are presently doing not to mention the
>> > increasing appetite for energy that we see reflected in the use of
>> > SUV's and world wide use of air conditioning.
>>
>> Yes Tom, these things are easier said than done. 178 000 tera watts
>> of
>> solar radiation hits the earth; total human energy consumption in
>> 2004
>> was 15 tera watts. The potential is there, having the will to utilize
>> and develop the technolgy to harness it is an issue.
>
> Pretending that number is sensible: the earth is 7/8ths water so only
> 22,000 terawatts are easily availble for harvesting. Of that amount
> the plant life requires 90% of it leaving some 2200 terawatts. This,
> mind you, on an area of 149 million sq km. meaning that there ain't a
> lot of power on any surface at any time that allows us to harvest it
> economically. This indicates that 22 x 10^14 watts is some 15
> megawatts per square kilometer. Conversion from heat to electricity
> can't much exceed 5% in real terms (subtracting out pie in the sky
> numbers that ignore cloud cover and nighttime) so that means that out
> of a sq km we could get 3/4ths of a megawatt.
>
> The present cost of conversion runs about 25 cents per kilowatt hour
> so that available enerrgy would run about $200,000
>
> So we could probably set up a really nice power grid that MIGHT work
> out for a mere $3,750,000,000,000. Of course that ignores the fact
> that we would have to build the factories that could build the solar
> cells in sufficient quantities. Not to mention clearing all that land
> - Rhode Island might have trouble finding enough land to use. And how
> are these things going to be mounted again? What happens to the land
> under the cells which are now permanently shadowed?
>
> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
I did manage to get past your 7/8th water (maybe in the year 2500) right
now its 3/4. How much energy is needed to process the 3 Giga tons of
carbon increasing in the atmosphere annually and will it halt global
warming? Let's ignore the lesson from Easter Island and just roll over
and die.
Phil H
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 18:43:07
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice > wrote in message
news:hOmdnSnA-9Ibw07bnZ2dnUVZ_q-jnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> I did manage to get past your 7/8th water (maybe in the year 2500) right
> now its 3/4. How much energy is needed to process the 3 Giga tons of
> carbon increasing in the atmosphere annually and will it halt global
> warming? Let's ignore the lesson from Easter Island and just roll over and
> die.
Ahh, then you should have said that you intend to use Antarctica and all of
the Oceania to cover with solar cells.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 08:55:11
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On Aug 26, 10:51 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net > wrote:
TK wrote:
> > Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all be
> > vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
>
> > And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the animals
> > on the Serengeti.
>
> Here's for the mass extermination of the animals on the Serengeti!
>
> So there.
I just can't get excited about hunting free range vegetables. Do chase
some some-wild asparagus and mushrooms from time to time though.
Cleaning and butchering veggies is a lot neater and easier though.
I have to wonder if anyone's done a study on how much, in the way of
"greenhouse gasses" are produced by the various politicians, and their
flunkies during the seemingly never ending campaign cycle? That's a
species that could use some serious reduction and management. ;-)
Bill C
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:38:41
From: ST
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On 8/26/07 8:55 AM, in article
1188143711.175303.204040@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com, "Bill C"
<tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:
> On Aug 26, 10:51 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
> TK wrote:
>>> Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all be
>>> vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
>>
>>> And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the animals
>>> on the Serengeti.
>>
>> Here's for the mass extermination of the animals on the Serengeti!
>>
>> So there.
>
> I just can't get excited about hunting free range vegetables. Do chase
> some some-wild asparagus and mushrooms from time to time though.
> Cleaning and butchering veggies is a lot neater and easier though.
> I have to wonder if anyone's done a study on how much, in the way of
> "greenhouse gasses" are produced by the various politicians, and their
> flunkies during the seemingly never ending campaign cycle? That's a
> species that could use some serious reduction and management. ;-)
> Bill C
>
"Ethic Cleansing"?
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 16:11:54
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1188143711.175303.204040@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 26, 10:51 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
> TK wrote:
>> > Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all
>> > be
>> > vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
>>
>> > And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the
>> > animals
>> > on the Serengeti.
>>
>> Here's for the mass extermination of the animals on the Serengeti!
>>
>> So there.
>
> I just can't get excited about hunting free range vegetables. Do chase
> some some-wild asparagus and mushrooms from time to time though.
> Cleaning and butchering veggies is a lot neater and easier though.
> I have to wonder if anyone's done a study on how much, in the way of
> "greenhouse gasses" are produced by the various politicians, and their
> flunkies during the seemingly never ending campaign cycle? That's a
> species that could use some serious reduction and management. ;-)
My wife was just commenting on the inordinate (sez her) volume of methane
I'm producing these days. There's just no appreciation.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 12:42:23
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net > wrote in message
news:eDhAi.2084$bO6.1852@edtnps89...
> "Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1188143711.175303.204040@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 26, 10:51 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>> TK wrote:
>>> > Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should
>>> > all be
>>> > vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin
>>> > with.
>>>
>>> > And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the
>>> > animals
>>> > on the Serengeti.
>>>
>>> Here's for the mass extermination of the animals on the Serengeti!
>>>
>>> So there.
>>
>> I just can't get excited about hunting free range vegetables. Do chase
>> some some-wild asparagus and mushrooms from time to time though.
>> Cleaning and butchering veggies is a lot neater and easier though.
>> I have to wonder if anyone's done a study on how much, in the way of
>> "greenhouse gasses" are produced by the various politicians, and their
>> flunkies during the seemingly never ending campaign cycle? That's a
>> species that could use some serious reduction and management. ;-)
>
> My wife was just commenting on the inordinate (sez her) volume of methane
> I'm producing these days. There's just no appreciation.
See, you have to increase your meat intake and reduce the amount of
vegetables you eat. As a side effect you'll also be able to control your
weight better.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 01:35:53
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On Aug 26, 12:45 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net > wrote:
> "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1188075247.531127.134560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
> > the US and have an effective weapon.:
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaG...
>
> > Quoted:
>
> > "We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
> > Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
> > the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
>
> > What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
> > just skyrocketed," he said.
>
> > The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
> > stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
> > insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
>
> > In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
> > and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
> > famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
>
> > They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
> > Bill C
>
> It's global warming Bill, and it's all America's fault!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Nope you have more Moose than we do and it's all their fault.:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/sc_afp/sciencenorwayclimate_070822191234
Belching moose add to global warming Wed Aug 22, 3:12 PM ET
OSLO (AFP) - A grown moose belches out methane gas equivalent to 2,100
kilograms (4,630 pounds) of carbon dioxide a year, contributing to
global warming, Norwegian researchers said Wednesday.
Bill C
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 09:36:53
From: ST
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On 8/26/07 1:35 AM, in article
1188117353.037280.271720@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "Bill C"
<tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:
> On Aug 26, 12:45 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>> "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1188075247.531127.134560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
>>> the US and have an effective weapon.:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaG...
>>
>>> Quoted:
>>
>>> "We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
>>> Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
>>> the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
>>
>>> What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
>>> just skyrocketed," he said.
>>
>>> The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
>>> stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
>>> insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
>>
>>> In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
>>> and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
>>> famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
>>
>>> They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
>>> Bill C
>>
>> It's global warming Bill, and it's all America's fault!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Nope you have more Moose than we do and it's all their fault.:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/sc_afp/sciencenorwayclimate_070822191234
>
> Belching moose add to global warming Wed Aug 22, 3:12 PM ET
>
> OSLO (AFP) - A grown moose belches out methane gas equivalent to 2,100
> kilograms (4,630 pounds) of carbon dioxide a year, contributing to
> global warming, Norwegian researchers said Wednesday.
>
> Bill C
>
I thought it was farting cows that started global warming??
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 14:09:29
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote in message
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> On Aug 26, 12:45 am, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net> wrote:
>> "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1188075247.531127.134560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
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>> > The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
>> > the US and have an effective weapon.:
>>
>> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaG...
>>
>> > Quoted:
>>
>> > "We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
>> > Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
>> > the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
>>
>> > What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
>> > just skyrocketed," he said.
>>
>> > The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
>> > stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
>> > insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
>>
>> > In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
>> > and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
>> > famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
>>
>> > They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
>> > Bill C
>>
>> It's global warming Bill, and it's all America's fault!- Hide quoted
>> text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Nope you have more Moose than we do and it's all their fault.:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/sc_afp/sciencenorwayclimate_070822191234
>
> Belching moose add to global warming Wed Aug 22, 3:12 PM ET
>
> OSLO (AFP) - A grown moose belches out methane gas equivalent to 2,100
> kilograms (4,630 pounds) of carbon dioxide a year, contributing to
> global warming, Norwegian researchers said Wednesday.
>
> Bill C
Dumbass -
It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow may
not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion cattle
producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a significant
effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
And Tom.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 16:49:57
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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Jim Flom wrote:
> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow may
> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion cattle
> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a significant
> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>
> And Tom.
Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 14:52:36
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> Jim Flom wrote:
>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow
>> may
>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion cattle
>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a significant
>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>>
>> And Tom.
>
> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 14:35:08
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net > wrote in message
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> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> Jim Flom wrote:
>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping
>>> cow may
>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
>>> cattle
>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
>>> significant
>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>>>
>>> And Tom.
>>
>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
>
> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
"The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega tons of
dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year. Maybe
deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used as a fuel
source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
Phil H
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 17:52:15
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice > wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:UsgAi.2569$Pd4.497@edtnps82...
>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>> Jim Flom wrote:
>>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow
>>>> may
>>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion cattle
>>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
>>>> significant
>>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>>>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>>>>
>>>> And Tom.
>>>
>>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
>>
>> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
>
> "The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega tons of
> dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year. Maybe
> deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used as a fuel
> source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
Phil, reduction of carbon is a great deal easier done with genetic
engineered lifeforms. The problem is this: the energy requirements of modern
society are so high that we cannot feed the world and supply energy per
capita as we are presently doing not to mention the increasing appetite for
energy that we see reflected in the use of SUV's and world wide use of air
conditioning.
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 08:15:10
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message
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> "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice> wrote in message
> news:04KdnU2xEOmNb0zbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:UsgAi.2569$Pd4.497@edtnps82...
>>> "Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46d19314$0$22310$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>> Jim Flom wrote:
>>>>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one
>>>>> burping cow may
>>>>> not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
>>>>> cattle
>>>>> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
>>>>> significant
>>>>> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>>>>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And Tom.
>>>>
>>>> Tom produces dangerous quantities of methane ?
>>>
>>> You obviously haven't read his global warming contrarian rants.
>>
>> "The answer lies in the soil" divert about 3 out of the 60 mega tons
>> of dead organisms and animal waste from the carbon cycle per year.
>> Maybe deposit it in a place with no oxygen where is could be used as
>> a fuel source in generations to come. Now there's a novel idea.
>
> Phil, reduction of carbon is a great deal easier done with genetic
> engineered lifeforms. The problem is this: the energy requirements of
> modern society are so high that we cannot feed the world and supply
> energy per capita as we are presently doing not to mention the
> increasing appetite for energy that we see reflected in the use of
> SUV's and world wide use of air conditioning.
>
Yes Tom, these things are easier said than done. 178 000 tera watts of
solar radiation hits the earth; total human energy consumption in 2004
was 15 tera watts. The potential is there, having the will to utilize
and develop the technolgy to harness it is an issue.
Phil H
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 07:40:15
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net > wrote in message
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> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow
> may not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion cattle
> producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a significant
> effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all be
vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the animals
on the Serengeti.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 12:00:01
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:tQfAi.11304$vP5.2608@edtnps90...
>>
>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping
>> cow may not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3
>> billion cattle producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can
>> have a significant effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>
> Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all
> be vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
Yeah. I used to tell my mother that vegetables were evil. She never
believed me. Now she's old, smells funny, and lives with a bunch of
cats. So that's where that line of thought will get you.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 14:51:26
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message
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> "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREMOVE@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:tQfAi.11304$vP5.2608@edtnps90...
>>
>> It's the cows. "...while the digestive difficulties of one burping cow
>> may not seem like a big deal, the cumulative effects of 1.3 billion
>> cattle producing over 100 million tons of methane annualy can have a
>> significant effect on the world's balance of greenhouse gases."
>> http://www.sciencefriday.com/pages/1997/Dec/hour1_120597.html
>
> Of course at the same time you idiots are telling us that we should all be
> vegetarians, it is the VEGETABLES that cause the problem to begin with.
>
> And I don't see you guys calling for the mass extermination of the animals
> on the Serengeti.
Here's for the mass extermination of the animals on the Serengeti!
So there.
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Date: 25 Aug 2007 22:11:03
From:
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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On Aug 25, 9:45 pm, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net > wrote:
> "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1188075247.531127.134560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
> > the US and have an effective weapon.:
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaG...
>
> > Quoted:
>
> > "We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
> > Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
> > the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
>
> > What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
> > just skyrocketed," he said.
>
> > The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
> > stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
> > insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
>
> > In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
> > and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
> > famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
>
> > They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
> > Bill C
>
> It's global warming Bill, and it's all America's fault!
How 'bout Victoria dumping its untreated sewage into the Sound? So
much for eco-wackos...
Anyway, the planet's been going to hell since the prime exotic species
left the savannas of Africa.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 04:45:44
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Farking Canadian Eco Sabotage
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"Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1188075247.531127.134560@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> The damned Vancouver cycling/stoner/eco wackos have declared war on
> the US and have an effective weapon.:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070825/ap_on_sc/rock_snot;_ylt=AsdRJLyaGGTO_tYL.1ZK.HGs0NUE
>
> Quoted:
>
> "We're starting to realize it's all over the place," said Karl
> Hermann, a regional waste monitoring and assessment coordinator for
> the Environmental Protection Agency in Denver.
>
> What started out in Vancouver Island in British Columbia "has suddenly
> just skyrocketed," he said.
>
> The algae has the potential to bloom into thick masses with long
> stalks, blanketing the bottoms of some streams, threatening aquatic
> insect and fish populations by smothering food sources.
>
> In New England, it has turned up in the White River, Connecticut River
> and the Batten Kill, a trout fishing mecca in southern Vermont that's
> famed for its hard-to-catch fish.
>
> They scream about Bush and give us this shit!!
> Bill C
It's global warming Bill, and it's all America's fault!
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