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Date: 04 Apr 2007 21:05:35
From: Bret
Subject: Flanders Pick
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My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
Bret
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 20:12:08
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 11, 7:01 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176323637.641674.241680@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 11, 2:20 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> >> > Bret
>
> >> Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
>
> >> Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
> >> interesting.
>
> > Yeah, I was pleased to see him break through with a big win today. It
> > will be interesting to see if he can do something at Roubaix similar
> > to what Boonen was doing at that age.
>
> I think that Boonen wasn't going to jepardize his P-R by riding too hard
> today. He went to his agreed upon limit and when everyone else went further
> he simply rolled off. Smart move to my mind.
>
> But if I were a betting man I'd think really hard about Roger Hammond on
> Sunday.
You may be on to something with your thoughts on Hammond. He often
shows flashes of brilliance, especially in the tougher, cobbled
races. He's due for a big win, too.
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 14:57:06
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 11, 1:33 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2:20 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
>
> > Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
> > interesting.
>
> Yeah, I was pleased to see him break through with a big win today. It
> will be interesting to see if he can do something at Roubaix similar
> to what Boonen was doing at that age.
>
> Last Sunday during the cycling.tv coverage of RvV, there was a T-
> Mobile rider identified as Burghardt that had crashed on a railroad
> crossing and appeared to be badly hurt. Was that a misidentification
> or did he really get back on and ride to 13th after that?
cyclingnews says that was Lorenzo Bernucci, not Burghardt
(news item titled "Flanders injury update.")
Boonen may not be back to 100% after crashing in Flanders,
nor 100% for Sunday.
In Gent-Wevelgem, it seems like there's always carnage
on the descent of the Kemmelberg. This year's report
twice blames loose waterbottles. Maybe in addition to the
32 spoke wheels, the teams should fit MTB bottle cages
for Gent-Wevelgem rather than those wimpy flexy carbon
things.
Ben
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 13:33:57
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 11, 2:20 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > Bret
>
> Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
>
> Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
> interesting.
Yeah, I was pleased to see him break through with a big win today. It
will be interesting to see if he can do something at Roubaix similar
to what Boonen was doing at that age.
Last Sunday during the cycling.tv coverage of RvV, there was a T-
Mobile rider identified as Burghardt that had crashed on a railroad
crossing and appeared to be badly hurt. Was that a misidentification
or did he really get back on and ride to 13th after that?
Bret
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 22:55:27
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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In article <1176323637.641674.241680@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"Bret" <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 11, 2:20 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
> >
> > > Bret
> >
> > Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
> >
> > Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
> > interesting.
>
> Yeah, I was pleased to see him break through with a big win today. It
> will be interesting to see if he can do something at Roubaix similar
> to what Boonen was doing at that age.
This was a great win for Burghardt (his first race win) and Hammond's second
place is close to his previous best, a third at P-R (yes, I think third at P-R has
more value than second at G-W). Hammond has been pretty successful at G-W already
though, with finishes of sixth, eighth and tenth. Maybe he'll get the win next year.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 12 Apr 2007 01:01:43
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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"Bret" <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1176323637.641674.241680@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 11, 2:20 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>>
>> > Bret
>>
>> Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
>>
>> Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
>> interesting.
>
> Yeah, I was pleased to see him break through with a big win today. It
> will be interesting to see if he can do something at Roubaix similar
> to what Boonen was doing at that age.
I think that Boonen wasn't going to jepardize his P-R by riding too hard
today. He went to his agreed upon limit and when everyone else went further
he simply rolled off. Smart move to my mind.
But if I were a betting man I'd think really hard about Roger Hammond on
Sunday.
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 13:20:26
From: Scott
Subject: Boonen the Beatable! was: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> Bret
Looks like you jumped the gun by a few days.
Also, it sure looks like Boonen is beatable! Sunday should be quite
interesting.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 18:21:14
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 9, 2:52 pm, Alexander Lackner
<Alexander.Lackneruns...@chellounspam.at > wrote:
> Andre schrieb:
>
> > On Apr 6, 8:53 am, Alexander Lackner
> > <Alexanderunspam.Lack...@chellounspam.at> wrote:
> >> brian_j_r...@yahoo.com schrieb:
>
> >>> Put me down for Devolder
> >> My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.
>
> > Congratulations on your pick.
>
> > Andre
>
> thanks. As picks winner, I get to armchair-coach:
> Cancellara rode incredibly, yet made one tiny albeit costly mistake-
> when he hooked up with the escapees around 30k from the finish, he was
> going to ride past them (his shadow Steegmans looked a little spent from
> following him up to that point and dropped to the back of that group at
> first).
<snip >
Dumbass -
>From my armchair position it seems that he went too early given his
lack of capable allies.
Congrats on your correct prediction. I'll bet that you didn't put any
money down on it. Sucker!
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 11:04:47
From: Alexander Lackner
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Kurgan Gringioni schrieb:
>> Cancellara rode incredibly, yet made one tiny albeit costly mistake-
>> when he hooked up with the escapees around 30k from the finish, he was
>> going to ride past them (his shadow Steegmans looked a little spent from
>> following him up to that point and dropped to the back of that group at
>> first).
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
>>From my armchair position it seems that he went too early given his
> lack of capable allies.
_____________________
my point was, he didn't look like he really needed allies, especially
a.) guys who have been away all day and b.) a fellow he knows is not
going to truly work with him, because he has family back in the chasing
bunch.
>
> Congrats on your correct prediction. I'll bet that you didn't put any
> money down on it. Sucker!
______________________
I do it for the glory and the girls. Now if you'll excuse me
greets
Alexander
Vienna
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 11:32:53
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 6, 8:53 am, Alexander Lackner
<Alexanderunspam.Lack...@chellounspam.at > wrote:
> brian_j_r...@yahoo.com schrieb:
>
>
>
> > Put me down for Devolder
>
> My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.
Congratulations on your pick.
Andre
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 23:52:46
From: Alexander Lackner
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Andre schrieb:
> On Apr 6, 8:53 am, Alexander Lackner
> <Alexanderunspam.Lack...@chellounspam.at> wrote:
>> brian_j_r...@yahoo.com schrieb:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Put me down for Devolder
>> My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.
>
> Congratulations on your pick.
>
> Andre
>
thanks. As picks winner, I get to armchair-coach:
Cancellara rode incredibly, yet made one tiny albeit costly mistake-
when he hooked up with the escapees around 30k from the finish, he was
going to ride past them (his shadow Steegmans looked a little spent from
following him up to that point and dropped to the back of that group at
first). Yet somehow Cancellara seemed to reconsider, preferring to seek
the cooperation of the group, when it looked like he could have disposed
of them all. No way Steegmans or any of the top group would have gotten
back on his wheel the way he was going, and with 40 or so seconds in
hand on the Muur I think he would have made it.
Then again, Cancellara could have been really spent himself at that
point, OR (who knows) made a short-term decision to sacrifice his Ronde
prospects for a double next sunday.
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 16:08:48
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 7, 2:14 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <461778dc$0$339$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > my sedimental pick is going to be Michael Boogerd.
>
> > (Because he's such a down-to-earth guy..?)
>
> Very good...
>
> > It would be something. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. He is
> > definitely very strong, but not Boonen 05 or Gewiss 94 strong. He'll
> > always have someone else up there with him on the finishing straight.
> > With Armstrong gone, he is now certain to lose any sprint.
>
> Oh, I know that he isn't likely to actually win the race, but I want him to win
> it. I wonder if Liquigas is going to throw everything behind Pozzato (likely to be
> heavily marked) or if Paolini is strong enough. My more realistic choice is Boonen
> or Stuart O'Grady. I'll say StewyO.
>
Well, if we're going to limit it to being realistic about
people who are actually on strong teams and favorites in
the sprint, that really cuts down the whole fun of picking
random dark horses (Nuyens, Gilbert, Tyler Farrar).
O'Grady has been riding well. I'd like to see him get that
one huge result.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 20:05:48
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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In article <1175987328.441324.22750@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2:14 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > In article <461778dc$0$339$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
> > Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > > my sedimental pick is going to be Michael Boogerd.
> >
> > > (Because he's such a down-to-earth guy..?)
> >
> > Very good...
> >
> > > It would be something. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. He is
> > > definitely very strong, but not Boonen 05 or Gewiss 94 strong. He'll
> > > always have someone else up there with him on the finishing straight.
> > > With Armstrong gone, he is now certain to lose any sprint.
> >
> > Oh, I know that he isn't likely to actually win the race, but I want him
> > to win it. I wonder if Liquigas is going to throw everything behind Pozzato
> > (likely to be heavily marked) or if Paolini is strong enough. My more realistic
> > choice is Boonen or Stuart O'Grady. I'll say StewyO.
> >
>
> Well, if we're going to limit it to being realistic about
> people who are actually on strong teams and favorites in
> the sprint, that really cuts down the whole fun of picking
> random dark horses (Nuyens, Gilbert, Tyler Farrar).
Making the picks only from realistic choices does sort of take away from the fun
of it. As far as Nuyens goes, I sort of considered him but dismissed him because of
him being on Cofidis - I don't think they can win a race like this. But he did
pretty well today in seventh. Funny that Boogard did better than my "realistic pick
of O'Grady.
> O'Grady has been riding well. I'd like to see him get that
> one huge result.
Yeah, that'd be good. He's been close enough times in the last year or so.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 16:38:07
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 5:30 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:51 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 4:23 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> > > > > > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > > > > > Scott wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > > > > > > >> Bret
>
> > > > > > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > > > > > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> > > > > > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > > > > > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > > > > > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> > > > > If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> > > > > and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> > > > > impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> > > > > before his mechanical.
>
> > > > > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> > > > oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> > > > sentimental favorite.
>
> > > Good luck with that.
>
> > > > FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
>
> > > Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
> > > last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
> > > to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
>
> > > My pick is Bill.
>
> > > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
> > the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
> > doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
> > Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
>
> I have the advantage of knowing the team plan. 1. We set something up.
> 2. Bill rips the legs off of anyone crazy enough to follow him.
>
>
>
> > For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!
>
> I'll go with Thacker.
>
> Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't know... he didn't look particularly strong last Sunday. He's
always a favorite for any race involving dirt, I suppose, but he
wouldn't be my pick.
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 16:30:13
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 4:51 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:23 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> > > > > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > > > > Scott wrote:
> > > > > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > > > > > >> Bret
>
> > > > > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > > > > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> > > > > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > > > > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > > > > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> > > > If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> > > > and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> > > > impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> > > > before his mechanical.
>
> > > > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> > > oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> > > sentimental favorite.
>
> > Good luck with that.
>
> > > FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
>
> > Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
> > last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
> > to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
>
> > My pick is Bill.
>
> > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
> the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
> doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
> Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
I have the advantage of knowing the team plan. 1. We set something up.
2. Bill rips the legs off of anyone crazy enough to follow him.
>
> For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!
I'll go with Thacker.
Bret
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 15:51:43
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 4:23 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> > > > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > > > Scott wrote:
> > > > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > > > > >> Bret
>
> > > > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > > > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> > > > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > > > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > > > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> > > If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> > > and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> > > impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> > > before his mechanical.
>
> > > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> > oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> > sentimental favorite.
>
> Good luck with that.
>
>
>
> > FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
>
> Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
> last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
> to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
>
> My pick is Bill.
>
> Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bill will likely be very heavily marked, so unless he just plain rips
the legs off any breakaway companions he may have, I don't see him
doing it. I think you're a more likely candidate, or perhaps Jim E.,
Vic, or even me if the planets align just right!
For a long-shot pick, I'm going with B. Simmons!
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 15:23:02
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 4:04 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> > > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > > Scott wrote:
> > > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > > > >> Bret
>
> > > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> > > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> > If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> > and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> > impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> > before his mechanical.
>
> > Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> sentimental favorite.
Good luck with that.
>
> FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
Why, because I'll be the only one likely to show up when it snows? The
last time it snowed, Bobio and I finished away together and we tried
to tie. They gave it to him. More details here:
http://tinyurl.com/yttym2
My pick is Bill.
Bret
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 15:04:56
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > Scott wrote:
> > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > > >> Bret
>
> > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> before his mechanical.
>
> Bret- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
sentimental favorite.
FWIW, I'm picking you for a win on Saturday!
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 16:53:30
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Scott wrote:
> Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
> oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
> sentimental favorite.
Sentimental picks are usually the semi-has-beens (Zabel, VanPeet), or
someone with a close relative who just died, or maybe someone on a
comeback from a bad crash or butt boil.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 16:06:52
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Geraard Spergen <GSpergen@spammagnet.net > wrote in news:46158b86$0$13256
$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
> Scott wrote:
>> Isn't the act of picking a newcomer on the basis of sentiment
>> oxymoronic? I wasn't just picking a long-shot, I'm picking my
>> sentimental favorite.
>
> Sentimental picks are usually the semi-has-beens (Zabel, VanPeet), or
> someone with a close relative who just died, or maybe someone on a
> comeback from a bad crash or butt boil.
I'd go with a sentimental favorite on the comeback from a doping
suspension, but Tyler isn't on the start list. So I guess I'll have to go
with Hondo even though I don't see him being with the leaders after the
climbs.
NS
orange juice vendor
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 14:42:40
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
> <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > Scott wrote:
> > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> > >> Bret
>
> > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> really big result in what is likely his last season.
If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
before his mechanical.
Bret
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 05:52:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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In article
<1175809360.817450.98110@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
"Bret" <bret.wade@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:27 pm, "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
> >
> > <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
> > > Scott wrote:
> > > > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
> >
> > > >> Bret
> >
> > > > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
> >
> > > Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
> >
> > Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> > not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> > really big result in what is likely his last season.
>
> If you're going to pick a long shot, it might as well be a young up
> and coming rider. Then you can look smart if you get lucky. Burghardt
> impressed me last Saturday when he counter attacked Bettini, just
> before his mechanical.
I heard the mechanical wasn't. He was coked to the
eyelids and the DS had to rein him in.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 14:27:44
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote:
> Scott wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> >> Bret
>
> > My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
> Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
really big result in what is likely his last season.
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 22:02:23
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Scott wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:14 pm, Fred Fredburger
> <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>>> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>>>> Bret
>>> My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>> Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
>
> Yeah, well, that's the problem with basing anything on sentiment. I'm
> not holding my breath, but I sure would like to see him get one more
> really big result in what is likely his last season.
Current weather forecast is for 16C/61F, 20% chance of rain,
light winds. That will make for a larger group during later
stages of the race. There will be more possibilities for
the win, but as you remove elements of chance from the race
that favors strong teams that will have more riders in the
group.
If I was going on sentiment I'd take PVP, who is on a strong
team and could possibly take a win like Pozzato got in last
year's M-SR.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 14:10:55
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote:
> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>
> Bret
My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
S.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 19:23:29
From: Morten Reippuert Knudsen
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Cancellara
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk >
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 18:17:56
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen wrote:
>
> Cancellara
>
He's always trained well in these races.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 13:14:48
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Scott wrote:
> On Apr 4, 10:05 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My wingnut pick for Flanders is Marcus Burghardt.
>>
>> Bret
>
> My head picks Bettini, my heart hopes for Zabel.
>
Scott, your heart is a dumbass.
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 14:03:10
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 4:29 pm, "Andre" <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM > wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:36 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Put me down for Devolder
>
> Write me in for Boonen
>
> Andre
1.Boonen
2.Paolini
3.Devolder
Bill C
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 13:29:31
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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On Apr 5, 3:36 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> Put me down for Devolder
Write me in for Boonen
Andre
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Date: 05 Apr 2007 12:36:32
From: brian_j_roth@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Put me down for Devolder
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 14:53:49
From: Alexander Lackner
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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brian_j_roth@yahoo.com schrieb:
>
> Put me down for Devolder
My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 20:36:13
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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In article <a0e1b$461642d5$5472c31b$14680@news.chello.at >,
Alexander Lackner <Alexanderunspam.Lackner@chellounspam.at > wrote:
> brian_j_roth@yahoo.com schrieb:
> >
> > Put me down for Devolder
>
>
> My semi-educated guess is Alessandro "Gewiss" Ballan.
Devolder is a good choice (as is Allan Davis, if you were going with Disco boys)
and Ballan has been riding well this year but my sedimental pick is going to be
Michael Boogerd.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 12:56:27
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> my sedimental pick is going to be Michael Boogerd.
(Because he's such a down-to-earth guy..?)
It would be something. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. He is
definitely very strong, but not Boonen 05 or Gewiss 94 strong. He'll
always have someone else up there with him on the finishing straight.
With Armstrong gone, he is now certain to lose any sprint.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 07 Apr 2007 14:14:15
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Flanders Pick
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In article <461778dc$0$339$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > my sedimental pick is going to be Michael Boogerd.
>
> (Because he's such a down-to-earth guy..?)
Very good...
> It would be something. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. He is
> definitely very strong, but not Boonen 05 or Gewiss 94 strong. He'll
> always have someone else up there with him on the finishing straight.
> With Armstrong gone, he is now certain to lose any sprint.
Oh, I know that he isn't likely to actually win the race, but I want him to win
it. I wonder if Liquigas is going to throw everything behind Pozzato (likely to be
heavily marked) or if Paolini is strong enough. My more realistic choice is Boonen
or Stuart O'Grady. I'll say StewyO.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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