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Date: 20 Jul 2007 18:55:39
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Subject: French Bias
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>From the official Tour de France web site:
"Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
battle subsequently ensued."
What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>From their profile of Hinault:
"Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
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Date: 26 Jul 2007 00:12:24
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: French Bias
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<sodaant@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
>>From their profile of Hinault:
>
> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
I suppose those French aren't giggling too loudly about Cofidis these days.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 15:57:05
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 21, 8:38 am, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ilan...@gmail.com writes:
> > > On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
> > >> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> > >> >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > >> >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > >> >> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> > >> >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> > >> >> >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> > >> >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > >> >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> > >> >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> > >> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> > >> > don't seem to have
> > >> > a problem with that though.
>
> > >> > -ilan
>
> > >> Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
> > >> enhancing
>
> > >> However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
> > >> performance enhancers
>
> > >> It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
> > >> but not on the UCI's
>
> > > Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
> > > he was doping. This means he
> > > got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
> > > doping. He cannot be considered
> > > a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
> > > been kept the rules of the event.
>
> > Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
> > positive for absolutely nothing
>
> > And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
> > 20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported
>
> > You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
> > it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
> > LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
> > wrong list.
>
> > Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
> > Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a Wanker by the name of Lionel Jospin,
> > in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
> > "straying from considerations of health and morals".
>
> > Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
> > have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
> > ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
> > 2
> >http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...
>
> > --
> > Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> > -
> > "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
> > from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
> > residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
> > country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
> > children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
> > (Leviticus 25:44-46)
>
> Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
> progression, if
> 20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
> get fired and
> banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
> what it will be in 20 years...
>
> -ilan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
word travels slowly then lemmings rush toward the cliff
the dark force steps in for profit
authority is threatened with embarrassment by moral forces
new regime!
everyone toes the line
meanwhile back at the lab....
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 12:38:22
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
> > On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> > wrote:
> >> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
> >> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> >> >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> >> >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> >> >> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> >> >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> >> >> >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> >> >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> >> >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> >> >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> >> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> >> > don't seem to have
> >> > a problem with that though.
>
> >> > -ilan
>
> >> Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
> >> enhancing
>
> >> However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
> >> performance enhancers
>
> >> It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
> >> but not on the UCI's
>
> > Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
> > he was doping. This means he
> > got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
> > doping. He cannot be considered
> > a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
> > been kept the rules of the event.
>
> Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
> positive for absolutely nothing
>
> And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
> 20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported
>
> You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
> it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
> LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
> wrong list.
>
> Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
> Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a Wanker by the name of Lionel Jospin,
> in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
> "straying from considerations of health and morals".
>
> Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
> have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
> ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
> 2
> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...
>
> --
> Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
> -
> "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
> from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
> residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
> country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
> children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
> (Leviticus 25:44-46)
Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
progression, if
20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
get fired and
banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
what it will be in 20 years...
-ilan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 15:51:43
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: French Bias
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ilanpsi@gmail.com writes:
> On Jul 21, 9:20 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> wrote:
>> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
>> > On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
>> >> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>>
>> >> >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
>> >> >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
>> >> >> battle subsequently ensued."
>>
>> >> >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>>
>> >> >> >From their profile of Hinault:
>>
>> >> >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
>> >> >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>>
>> >> >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>>
>> >> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
>> >> > don't seem to have
>> >> > a problem with that though.
>>
>> >> > -ilan
>>
>> >> Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
>> >> enhancing
>>
>> >> However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
>> >> performance enhancers
>>
>> >> It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
>> >> but not on the UCI's
>>
>> > Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
>> > he was doping. This means he
>> > got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
>> > doping. He cannot be considered
>> > a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
>> > been kept the rules of the event.
>>
>> Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
>> positive for absolutely nothing
>>
>> And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
>> 20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported
>>
>> You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
>> it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
>> LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
>> wrong list.
>>
>> Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
>> Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a Wanker by the name of Lionel Jospin,
>> in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
>> "straying from considerations of health and morals".
>>
>> Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
>> have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
>> ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
>> 2
>> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB163...
>>
>> --
> Thanks, I didn't know much of the details of the case. It's an amusing
> progression, if
> 20 years ago a positive test only led to time penalties, and now, you
> get fired and
> banned from races just for rumours that you doped, you have to wonder
> what it will be in 20 years...
>
Incidentally, in contrast to Telekom et alii these days, note how
Perico's Team immediately went to bat for him
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Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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SOS - HMS Britannia
http://azurservers.com/rbr/sos.wmv
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 11:54:36
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 21, 7:44 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rolling+stones/have+you+seen+your+mother...
seriously, i hope this shed some light on the problem!
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 11:44:14
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: French Bias
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http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rolling+stones/have+you+seen+your+mother+baby+standing+in+the+shadow_20118087.html
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 03:49:04
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 7:04 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > battle subsequently ensued."
>
> > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> > >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> In French, "supporter" literally means "to put up with." Since the
> French regularly mistranslate faux cousins,
> e.g., they now use "supporter" as in English (in correct French
> "soutenir"), maybe it's a clever counter.
> ASO clever, that would be different.
>
> -ilan
Not sure about this but: "another" is British allusion refering to....
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 01:55:12
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 21, 1:40 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 4:00 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> > > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > > battle subsequently ensued."
>
> > > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> > > >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> > > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> > > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> > don't seem to have
> > a problem with that though.
>
> Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
> yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
> daughter pregnant.
That last indiscretion would probably earn him an extra Yellow Jersey,
according to French cultural values.
Penalising people for their sexual indiscretions, is an American
thing, nothing to do with France.
-ilan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 11:52:10
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: French Bias
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cyclingtom@gmail.com wrote:
>> Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
>> yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
>> daughter pregnant.
ilanpsi wrote:
> That last indiscretion would probably earn him an extra Yellow Jersey,
> according to French cultural values.
The yellow condom for GC and the green condom for best sprinter (h^2 would
like that one).
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 01:50:05
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> >> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> >> >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> > don't seem to have
> > a problem with that though.
>
> > -ilan
>
> Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
> enhancing
>
> However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
> performance enhancers
>
> It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
> but not on the UCI's
Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
he was doping. This means he
got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
doping. He cannot be considered
a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
been kept the rules of the event.
-ilan
-ilan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 09:20:44
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: French Bias
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ilanpsi@gmail.com writes:
> On Jul 21, 1:16 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com>
> wrote:
>> ilan...@gmail.com writes:
>> > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>>
>> >> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
>> >> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
>> >> battle subsequently ensued."
>>
>> >> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>>
>> >> >From their profile of Hinault:
>>
>> >> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
>> >> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>>
>> >> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>>
>> > Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
>> > don't seem to have
>> > a problem with that though.
>>
>> > -ilan
>>
>> Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
>> enhancing
>>
>> However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
>> performance enhancers
>>
>> It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
>> but not on the UCI's
>
> Delgado tested positive for a legal substance which gave evidence that
> he was doping. This means he
> got to keep his Tour de France title despite overwhelming evidence of
> doping. He cannot be considered
> a clean winner, despite having the right to keep his title, having
> been kept the rules of the event.
>
Whatever the absolute morality of the situation, Perico tested
positive for absolutely nothing
And in support of Delgado, the lads ignored the starter's flag at the
20th stage in protest at how the tests had been conducted and reported
You will remember that the Press got the news before Perico got
it himself, another earlier LNDD breach of security and ethics when
LNDD should not even have reported anything because they used the
wrong list.
Then some Froggy Sports Minister who couldn't carry Marie-George's
Lunch Bucket in that Portfolio, a Wanker by the name of Lionel Jospin,
in turn boycotted the climax of the event, accusing the sport of
"straying from considerations of health and morals".
Interestingly, there's a remote possibility that Perico would still
have been the Winner even had he been positive since he was 5 minutes
ahead and the penalty for doping was only 10 minutes added to GC time.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=940DEFDB1631F931A15754C0A96E948260
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
-
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you;
from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary
residents living among you and members of their clans born in your
country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your
children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life....."
(Leviticus 25:44-46)
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 16:40:31
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 4:00 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > battle subsequently ensued."
>
> > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> > >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> don't seem to have
> a problem with that though.
Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
yellow jerseys despite the additional fact that he got his step
daughter pregnant.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 03:06:07
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: French Bias
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<cyclintom@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1184974831.297874.105570@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
(snip)
> Anquetil admitted that he used dope and I don't see them removing his
> yellow jerseys
Why should they? When he won his Tours doping was still allowed. .
despite the additional fact that he got his step
> daughter pregnant.
... which is still allowed (by the UCI anyway).
Benjo
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 16:39:02
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 2:08 pm, "bidon jaune" <no_d...@tdf.fr > wrote:
> <soda...@gmail.com> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
> 1184957739.114141.154...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
> aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the p=
ast
> everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls =
in
> athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'=
es
> easy to see that.
>
> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
> it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 03:11:47
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: French Bias
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<cyclintom@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1184974742.462025.13510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 2:08 pm, "bidon jaune" <no_d...@tdf.fr > wrote:
> <soda...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1184957739.114141.154...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
> aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
> past
> everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls
> in
> athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope.
> it'es
> easy to see that.
>
> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
> it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.
Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).
Benjo
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 11:52:06
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: French Bias
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benjo maso wrote:
> Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
> AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).
He's masking the peroxide.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 21:55:17
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:11:47 +0200, "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote:
>
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1184974742.462025.13510@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 20, 2:08 pm, "bidon jaune" <no_d...@tdf.fr> wrote:
>> <soda...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> 1184957739.114141.154...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
>> aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
>> past
>> everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls
>> in
>> athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope.
>> it'es
>> easy to see that.
>>
>> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
>> it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
>
>Sorry to inform someone so well informed to begin with but most men
>who are going to lose their hair start losing it at 20 years old. By
>24 I was bald and I don't like to take aspirin.
>
>
>Besides, Rasmussen isn't bald at all. He's just shaving his head, which -
>AFAIK - isn't a considered as a sign of using doping (yet).
>
>Benjo
He seems to have let it grow a bit longer this year. Does make him look less
like an alien on the old Star Trek.
Ron
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 03:06:35
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: French Bias
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RonSonic wrote:
> He seems to have let it grow a bit longer this year. Does make him look less
> like an alien on the old Star Trek.
http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/04dauphineSt4/$file/2.jpg
http://www.70disco.com/images/talos03.jpg
Hard to tell apart.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 16:36:19
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 12:37 pm, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> sodaant wrote:
> > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> Lafferty only knows.
And even if he didn't know he could alway invent it like he always
does.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 23:04:24
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Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
In French, "supporter" literally means "to put up with." Since the
French regularly mistranslate faux cousins,
e.g., they now use "supporter" as in English (in correct French
"soutenir"), maybe it's a clever counter.
ASO clever, that would be different.
-ilan
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 23:00:46
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Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> >From their profile of Hinault:
>
> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
don't seem to have
a problem with that though.
-ilan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 01:16:09
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: French Bias
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ilanpsi@gmail.com writes:
> On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, soda...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>>
>> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
>> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
>> battle subsequently ensued."
>>
>> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>>
>> >From their profile of Hinault:
>>
>> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
>> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>>
>> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> Delgado was also found guilty of doping during his Tour win. They
> don't seem to have
> a problem with that though.
>
> -ilan
>
Perico used Probenicid which in and of itself is not perfrmance
enhancing
However it is a Masking Agent and is useful in negating tests for real
performance enhancers
It was, if I remember correctly, on the IOC's Banned Substances List,
but not on the UCI's
Ergo, Perico was Clean as Lance Armstrong
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
-
There is a rising sentiment in America today, it is nationalism.
Americans are growing weary of seeing their sons die in wars to bring
democracy to people who do not seem all that appreciative. They are
tired of reading of factories going to China and jobs going to India,
while illegal aliens march in their cities under foreign flags to
demand their "civil rights." They are tired of reading about new
billionaires as their wages fail to rise to compensate for soaring gas
prices and the falling value of their homes.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 23:08:58
From: bidon jaune
Subject: Re: French Bias
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<sodaant@gmail.com > a écrit dans le message de news:
1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE France
before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope control, it's
like financial paradise aurond here.
come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the past
everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls in
athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'es
easy to see that.
it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 19:25:13
From: mal
Subject: Re: French Bias
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"bidon jaune" <no_dope@tdf.fr > wrote in message
news:46a12474$0$12462$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net...
>
> <sodaant@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE
> France before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope
> control, it's like financial paradise aurond here.
> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
> aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the
> past everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american
> girls in athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all
> dope. it'es easy to see that.
>
> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
> it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
In the style of "bidon jaune"
Wow, you really are a character "bidon jaune".
I was bald without hair at 16, and hadn't even started the dope yet. And I
am just past 53 now and don't look Rassmussenesque, but people say I don't
look more than 45.
The teeth bit is just a cultural difference. Having lived in Europe, I know
that snaggle teeth are a sign of independence.
Braces in France are for women who need to hold their underwear up.
I love Paris. I once saw a thong on the pavement, but didn't pick it up.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 15:43:01
From: chester
Subject: Re: French Bias
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bidon jaune wrote:
> <sodaant@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE France
> before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope control, it's
> like financial paradise aurond here.
> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who have
> aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that in the past
> everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the american girls in
> athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 . they are all dope. it'es
> easy to see that.
>
> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of 20,
> it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
>
>
Dude what the f are you talking about?
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 21:50:02
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: French Bias
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bidon jaune wrote:
>
> <sodaant@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> the french bias is that the french team aren't allow to train OUTSIDE
> France before the tour, meanwhile other countries don't accept dope
> control, it's like financial paradise aurond here.
> come on ...rassmusen looks already like a 50 old guy, or someone who
> have aid treatment, he is already all bald, how can you explain that
> in the past everyone have hairs and now they are bald ? it's like the
> american girls in athletism that have braces in their teeth at 20 .
> they are all dope. it'es easy to see that.
>
> it's the hormonal dope that makes the guy bald at already the age of
> 20, it's the same with the teeth that needs braces, it's so obvious
Is July the best goddamn month around here or what?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 13:10:01
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Jul 20, 3:58 pm, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl > wrote:
> <soda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > battle subsequently ensued."
>
> > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
> >>From their profile of Hinault:
>
> > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
> Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
> his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
> that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
> Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
> LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
> draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
> From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
> a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
> too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
> all for his own good".
That's why I kick my dog when he's sleeping. Can't trust anyone, and
he's a better dog for knowing that.
R
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 22:30:57
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: French Bias
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RicodJour wrote:
>
> That's why I kick my dog when he's sleeping. Can't trust anyone, and
> he's a better dog for knowing that.
>
Ah, that explains a lot.
Greg
--
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 20:09:46
From:
Subject: Re: French Bias
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> Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
> his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
> that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
> Tour victory.
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 21:58:18
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: French Bias
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<sodaant@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>
> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> battle subsequently ensued."
>
> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>
>>From their profile of Hinault:
>
> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>
> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
all for his own good".
Benjo
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 00:43:14
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: French Bias
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In article <5gcieqF3c4t8tU1@mid.individual.net >,
"benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote:
> <sodaant@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > >From the official Tour de France web site:
> >
> > "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
> > was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
> > battle subsequently ensued."
> >
> > What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
> >
> >>From their profile of Hinault:
> >
> > "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
> > Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
> >
> > Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
>
> Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
> his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
> that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
> Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
> LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
> draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
> From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
> a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
> too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
> all for his own good".
I believe him.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 18:52:31
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: French Bias
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:18 +0200, "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > wrote:
>
><sodaant@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1184957739.114141.154420@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> >From the official Tour de France web site:
>>
>> "Another American, Floyd Landis, disgraced the Yellow Jersey when he
>> was found guilty of drug use four days after his victory. A legal
>> battle subsequently ensued."
>>
>> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
>>
>>>From their profile of Hinault:
>>
>> "Nicknamed "The Badger", this fierce rider retired after the 1986
>> Tour, during which he supported his team mate Greg LeMond."
>>
>> Supported Greg LeMond?!? Yeah, right!
>
>
>Absolutely. Hinault admitted that there had been some misunderstanding about
>his way of riding, but that was only because not everyone had understood
>that he wanted to give his team-mate a much more valuable gift than a simple
>Tour victory. By his seeming resistance he wanted to impart >character= to
>LeMond: "Thanks to me Greg has become a very good rider. Later on he=ll
>draw a lot of benefit from the psychological war I=ve waged against him.
>From now on he=ll be capable of winning the toughest races. I=ve taught him
>a lot. In future he=ll be able to defend himself on every terrain and that,
>too, he owes in part to me. I don=t regret what I=ve done, because it was
>all for his own good".
>
>Benjo
Bernie could've saved himself a lot of work and just renamed Lemond "Sue."
Ron
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 21:37:48
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: French Bias
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sodaant wrote:
> What other Americans have "disgraced the Yellow Jersey"?
Lafferty only knows.
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