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Date: 15 Mar 2007 03:33:52
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: George Bush refuses to protect you
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According to finance whiz Kunich, the dot-com bust was because Clinton
didn't try to stop investors from dumping cash into lousy IPOs.
http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/funds/investing/10341308.html
Fortress went public two weeks ago and doubled in price on the first
day. But what investors may not realize is that the five principals
pretty much stripped the company clean just before the IPO.
Total withdrawn in the two years before they took it public: $1.9
billion. Most of that was in the final few months.
This isn't just every penny that the company earned over that period
-- it's a lot more. By the time the owners opened the doors to the
investing public this month, the company wasn't just out of cash -- it
had negative book value. Liabilities actually exceeded assets by $507
million.
In other words, the owners didn't just clean out the vault. They left
a pile of IOUs -- and used the new money to balance the books.
When the overallotment is finally calculated, ordinary investors will
probably have put in $685 million.
Let's be clear. Edens and his partners have done nothing illegal.
Let's even go as far as saying they did nothing unethical.
They sold a stake in the company to the investing public on an "as is"
basis. And all this was disclosed in the prospectus.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 17:26:49
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 17, 7:59 pm, YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com (Howard Kveck) wrote:
> In article <1174171782.425358.76...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, "SLAVE
> of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
>
> > > ...Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
> > > MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm.
>
> > Oh, I think you meant it.
>
> Well, no. Really.
okay
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 15:49:42
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 16, 9:12 pm, YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com (Howard Kveck) wrote:
> In article <1174010375.718852.186...@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, "SLAVE
> of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote:
> I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
> someplace, ...
jeez, lighten up.
> ...Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
> MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm.
Oh, I think you meant it.
> Actually, I was sort of surprised that you didn't take exception to
> TK's recent assertion that "it's up to the government to regulate public
> offerings so that there is really SOME value behind the offering", ...
I don't respond to every post I disagree with, including your's.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:59:31
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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In article <1174171782.425358.76600@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >, "SLAVE
of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com > wrote:
> > ...Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
> > MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm.
>
> Oh, I think you meant it.
Well, no. Really.
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 18:59:35
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 15, 3:40 pm, YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com (Howard Kveck) wrote:
> In article <1173980959.346070.19...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, "MMan"
>
> <mman...@cs.com> wrote:
> > On 15, 6:33 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > George Bush refuses to protect you
>
> > I know! I had to go outside today and was afraid a big bully would
> > beat me up and where was Dubya? Nowhere to be found!
"The big problem with Sarbanes-Oxley is that even though it makes
companies disclose facts in their filings, it cannot force people to
read those filings."
They can't help you. They just tell "us" they can and tax
accordingly.
> > It's unconstitutional, I tells ya!
>
> You're living in a pre-9-11 world. It all changed.
It didn't. Maybe you were buried under a rock someplace.
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 21:12:55
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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In article <1174010375.718852.186310@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >, "SLAVE
of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com > wrote:
> On 15, 3:40 pm, YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com (Howard Kveck) wrote:
> > In article <1173980959.346070.19...@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, "MMan"
> >
> > <mman...@cs.com> wrote:
> > > On 15, 6:33 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > George Bush refuses to protect you
> >
> > > I know! I had to go outside today and was afraid a big bully would
> > > beat me up and where was Dubya? Nowhere to be found!
>
> "The big problem with Sarbanes-Oxley is that even though it makes
> companies disclose facts in their filings, it cannot force people to
> read those filings."
>
> They can't help you. They just tell "us" they can and tax
> accordingly.
>
> > > It's unconstitutional, I tells ya!
> >
> > You're living in a pre-9-11 world. It all changed.
>
> It didn't. Maybe you were buried under a rock someplace.
I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
someplace, Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm. (Or,
perhaps in this case, sarchasm [1]?)
Actually, I was sort of surprised that you didn't take exception to
TK's recent assertion that "it's up to the government to regulate public
offerings so that there is really SOME value behind the offering", seen
here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/fbf88bd3402885ba?hl
What's your take on that?
[1] The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who
doesn't get it. Heh...
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 13:17:06
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
> someplace, Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
> MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm. (Or,
> perhaps in this case, sarchasm [1]?)
First rbr killed irony, or at least knocked it unconscious and now its
attempting murder on sarcasm too.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:36:46
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>
>> I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
>>someplace, Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
>>MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm. (Or,
>>perhaps in this case, sarchasm [1]?)
>
>
> First rbr killed irony, or at least knocked it unconscious and now its
> attempting murder on sarcasm too.
Sorry... kuntich commited that crime a long, long time ago.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 02:47:50
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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"Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com > wrote in message
news:eti5d922421@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Donald Munro wrote:
>> Howard Kveck wrote:
>>
>>> I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
>>>someplace, Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
>>>MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm.
>>>(Or,
>>>perhaps in this case, sarchasm [1]?)
>>
>>
>> First rbr killed irony, or at least knocked it unconscious and now its
>> attempting murder on sarcasm too.
>
> Sorry... kuntich commited that crime a long, long time ago.
Hey - The dwarf pretends to humor!
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 08:02:05
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> I know that some around here would like me to be buried under a rock
>> someplace, Greg, but I don't quite know how to explain to you that both
>> MMan's post and my reply to it were somewhat broadly painted sarcasm. (Or,
>> perhaps in this case, sarchasm [1]?)
>
> First rbr killed irony, or at least knocked it unconscious and now its
> attempting murder on sarcasm too.
So, George Bush refuses to protect irony and sarcasm too. NOW I'm
getting concerned!
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 17:06:29
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> So, George Bush refuses to protect irony and sarcasm too. NOW I'm
> getting concerned!
Give the poor guy a break (or should it be brake), how can you protect
something you can't grok. You should be happy he didn't send Irony a
Guantanamo .
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:41:14
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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in message <45fc0402$0$21773$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >, Donald Munro
('fat-dumbass@hotmail.com') wrote:
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> So, George Bush refuses to protect irony and sarcasm too. NOW I'm
>> getting concerned!
>
> Give the poor guy a break (or should it be brake), how can you protect
> something you can't grok. You should be happy he didn't send Irony a
> Guantanamo .
H'mmm.... just dropped back in now the bike racing seaon is under way
again. Nice to see you've all been busily discussing bike racing in my
absence.
Did you hear that the French were taking the piss when they said they'd
taken the piss out of Landis?
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
;; Voltaire RIP Dr David Kelly 1945-2004
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:22:52
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> H'mmm.... just dropped back in now the bike racing seaon is under way
> again. Nice to see you've all been busily discussing bike racing in my
> absence.
Nah, we restrict ourselves to sex and drugs and the surge. I trust you
haven't tried to match age and speed on a hairpin corner this year ?
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 10:30:42
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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in message <45fcdae5$0$30586$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >, Donald Munro
('fat-dumbass@hotmail.com') wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>> H'mmm.... just dropped back in now the bike racing seaon is under way
>> again. Nice to see you've all been busily discussing bike racing in my
>> absence.
>
> Nah, we restrict ourselves to sex and drugs and the surge. I trust you
> haven't tried to match age and speed on a hairpin corner this year ?
Cycled the same route on the anniversary of the - er'hrrmm - incident, and
the bend itself is nothing special at all. No-one but a complete fool
could possibly over-cook it and crash. Having said that, the pile of
boulders I crashed into is even more intimidating than my memory had
registered...
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Wannabe a Web designer?
<URL:http://userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/97dec/19971206.html >
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 16:36:22
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> According to finance whiz Kunich,
Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have known
whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick your ass
if I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my bike is
better than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or "How come no
one ever talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military strategist" Kunich
or etc., etc., etc...
Damn, it must be crowded in there.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:34:53
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> According to finance whiz Kunich,
>
>
> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
> speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have known
> whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick your ass
> if I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my bike is
> better than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or "How come no
> one ever talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military strategist" Kunich
> or etc., etc., etc...
>
> Damn, it must be crowded in there.
According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit), the nice thing
about having multiple personalities is that at some point, you can begin
to charge them rent for staying in your house with you.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:03:55
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On Sat, 17 2007 18:34:53 +0000, Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com >
wrote:
>
>According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit), the nice thing
>about having multiple personalities is that at some point, you can begin
>to charge them rent for staying in your house with you.
Well, it helps pay for the stay at the unit.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 02:48:23
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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"Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com > wrote in message
news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> According to finance whiz Kunich,
>>
>>
>> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
>> speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have known
>> whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick your ass if
>> I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my bike is better
>> than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or "How come no one ever
>> talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military strategist" Kunich or etc.,
>> etc., etc...
>>
>> Damn, it must be crowded in there.
>
> According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
A professional riage huh?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:53:55
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com> wrote in message
> news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
>> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>>> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> According to finance whiz Kunich,
>>>
>>> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
>>> speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have known
>>> whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick your ass if
>>> I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my bike is better
>>> than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or "How come no one ever
>>> talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military strategist" Kunich or etc.,
>>> etc., etc...
>>>
>>> Damn, it must be crowded in there.
>> According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
>
> A professional riage huh?
>
>
"Anne Tyler fan" Kunich would have been WAY down the list.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 23:16:36
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>> "Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>>>
>>>> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> According to finance whiz Kunich,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you
>>>> were speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have
>>>> known whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick
>>>> your ass if I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my
>>>> bike is better than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or
>>>> "How come no one ever talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military
>>>> strategist" Kunich or etc., etc., etc...
>>>>
>>>> Damn, it must be crowded in there.
>>>
>>> According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
>>
>>
>> A professional riage huh?
>>
>>
>
> "Anne Tyler fan" Kunich would have been WAY down the list.
wow kuntich... seeing your (supposed) post reminds me of why I dont see
your nonsense unless someone responds to you. All you are is a big
windbag that consumes more than you contribute.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 18:14:49
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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In article <etilpv02tkn@enews4.newsguy.com >, Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com>
wrote:
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> >> "Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
> >>> According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
> >>
> >> A professional riage huh?
> >>
> > "Anne Tyler fan" Kunich would have been WAY down the list.
>
> wow kuntich... seeing your (supposed) post reminds me of why I dont see
> your nonsense unless someone responds to you. All you are is a big
> windbag that consumes more than you contribute.
In keeping with his present trend toward referring to everyone he
doesn't like as some variation of "small" Tom will like the "big" part of
that, but I doubt he'll care for the "windbag" part.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 20:40:05
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <etilpv02tkn@enews4.newsguy.com>, Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Fred Fredburger wrote:
>>
>>>Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
>
>>>>>According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
>>>>
>>>>A professional riage huh?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"Anne Tyler fan" Kunich would have been WAY down the list.
>>
>>wow kuntich... seeing your (supposed) post reminds me of why I dont see
>>your nonsense unless someone responds to you. All you are is a big
>>windbag that consumes more than you contribute.
>
>
> In keeping with his present trend toward referring to everyone he
> doesn't like as some variation of "small" Tom will like the "big" part of
> that, but I doubt he'll care for the "windbag" part.
>
Personally... who cares what he does or doesnt like. He is a boil on the
asshole of the universe. And the asshole is getting tired of packing him
around.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 07:39:50
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Joe Cipale wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> In article <etilpv02tkn@enews4.newsguy.com>, Joe Cipale
>> <joec@aracnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eti59o12421@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>
>>
>>>>>> According to my wife (a nurse in a clinical pysch unit)
>>>>>
>>>>> A professional riage huh?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Anne Tyler fan" Kunich would have been WAY down the list.
>>>
>>> wow kuntich... seeing your (supposed) post reminds me of why I dont
>>> see your nonsense unless someone responds to you. All you are is a
>>> big windbag that consumes more than you contribute.
>>
>>
>> In keeping with his present trend toward referring to everyone he
>> doesn't like as some variation of "small" Tom will like the "big" part of
>> that, but I doubt he'll care for the "windbag" part.
>>
>
> Personally... who cares what he does or doesnt like. He is a boil on the
> asshole of the universe. And the asshole is getting tired of packing him
> around.
As comparisons go, "the asshole of the universe/RBR" is far more
accurate analogy than the "Seabiscuit/Tyler Hamilton" comparison I read
earlier.
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 14:55:37
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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"Joe Cipale" <joec@aracnet.com > wrote in message
news:etilpv02tkn@enews4.newsguy.com...
> wow kuntich... seeing your (supposed) post reminds me of why I dont see
> your nonsense unless someone responds to you. All you are is a big windbag
> that consumes more than you contribute.
Another statement from the dislocated dwarf.
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 01:23:42
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>> According to finance whiz Kunich,
>
> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
> speaking of. If you had simply said "Kunich" I wouldn't have known
> whether you were talking about "finance whiz" Kunich or "kick your ass
> if I ever see you" Kunich or "climatologist" Kunich or "my bike is
> better than your bike" Kunich or "kung fu grip" Kunich or "How come no
> one ever talks about bike racing" Kunich or "military strategist" Kunich
> or etc., etc., etc...
>
> Damn, it must be crowded in there.
He can be all things to all people. Disk is cheap.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 10:06:26
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> Thank you for helpfully pointing out which particular Kunich you were
>> speaking of.
Bob Schwartz wrote:
> He can be all things to all people. Disk is cheap.
And the product implements many interfaces (please tell me it doesn't use
COM).
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 10:49:19
From: MMan
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 15, 6:33 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> George Bush refuses to protect you
I know! I had to go outside today and was afraid a big bully would
beat me up and where was Dubya? Nowhere to be found!
It's unconstitutional, I tells ya!
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 15:40:43
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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In article <1173980959.346070.19630@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >, "MMan"
<mman37x@cs.com > wrote:
> On 15, 6:33 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > George Bush refuses to protect you
>
> I know! I had to go outside today and was afraid a big bully would
> beat me up and where was Dubya? Nowhere to be found!
>
> It's unconstitutional, I tells ya!
You're living in a pre-9-11 world. It all changed.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 16:22:27
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <1173980959.346070.19630@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, "MMan"
> <mman37x@cs.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15, 6:33 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> George Bush refuses to protect you
>> I know! I had to go outside today and was afraid a big bully would
>> beat me up and where was Dubya? Nowhere to be found!
>>
>> It's unconstitutional, I tells ya!
>
> You're living in a pre-9-11 world. It all changed.
>
Nah, he had to adapt to breathing methane, just like the rest of us.
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 09:57:02
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 15, 12:45 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net > wrote:
> "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1173954832.597960.62740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Fortress went public two weeks ago and doubled in price on the first
> > day. But what investors may not realize is that the five principals
> > pretty much stripped the company clean just before the IPO.
>
> > Total withdrawn in the two years before they took it public: $1.9
> > billion. Most of that was in the final few months.
>
> Don't worry -- they had to do that to get ready to move the company to it's
> new HQ in Dubai; you can find them in some suites next to Halliburton.
>
> NS
> wall street insider
You people are either mathematically challenged or short-sighted.
This is classical risk theory - known as Under and Over.
It was modified thusly:
(Pl)under and (move) over (there)
The trick is in the timing.
R
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 13:18:16
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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On 15 2007 09:57:02 -0700, "RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com >
wrote:
>On 15, 12:45 pm, Nev Shea <spamt...@garbage.net> wrote:
>> "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote innews:1173954832.597960.62740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Fortress went public two weeks ago and doubled in price on the first
>> > day. But what investors may not realize is that the five principals
>> > pretty much stripped the company clean just before the IPO.
>>
>> > Total withdrawn in the two years before they took it public: $1.9
>> > billion. Most of that was in the final few months.
>>
>> Don't worry -- they had to do that to get ready to move the company to it's
>> new HQ in Dubai; you can find them in some suites next to Halliburton.
>>
>> NS
>> wall street insider
>
>You people are either mathematically challenged or short-sighted.
>This is classical risk theory - known as Under and Over.
>It was modified thusly:
>
>(Pl)under and (move) over (there)
>
>The trick is in the timing.
>
>R
For the record, it isn't all that easy to prepare an initial public
offering, not least being all the time you have to spend in the
company of lawyers. They deserve a bit of compensation, here and
there, now and again.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 16:45:52
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote in
news:1173954832.597960.62740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
> Fortress went public two weeks ago and doubled in price on the first
> day. But what investors may not realize is that the five principals
> pretty much stripped the company clean just before the IPO.
>
> Total withdrawn in the two years before they took it public: $1.9
> billion. Most of that was in the final few months.
Don't worry -- they had to do that to get ready to move the company to it's
new HQ in Dubai; you can find them in some suites next to Halliburton.
NS
wall street insider
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 11:59:56
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> According to finance whiz Kunich, the dot-com bust was because Clinton
> didn't try to stop investors from dumping cash into lousy IPOs.
>
> http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/funds/investing/10341308.html
Dumbass,
Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for, like,
5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years ago? Well,
one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the White House
wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam Hussein was a very
bad man.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:32:02
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Robert Chung wrote:
> amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>According to finance whiz Kunich, the dot-com bust was because Clinton
>>didn't try to stop investors from dumping cash into lousy IPOs.
>>
>>http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/funds/investing/10341308.html
>
>
> Dumbass,
>
> Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for, like,
> 5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years ago? Well,
> one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the White House
> wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam Hussein was a very
> bad man.
>
>
He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 10:32:32
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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in message <eti54d02421@enews2.newsguy.com >, Joe Cipale
('joec@aracnet.com') wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
>>
>> Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for,
>> like, 5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years
>> ago? Well, one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the
>> White House wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam
>> Hussein was a very bad man.
>
> He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
She had one?
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; I can't work yanks out......
;; Why do they frown upon sex yet relish violence?
;; Deep Fried Lettuce
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:04:24
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <eti54d02421@enews2.newsguy.com>, Joe Cipale
> ('joec@aracnet.com') wrote:
>
>> Robert Chung wrote:
>>> Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for,
>>> like, 5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years
>>> ago? Well, one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the
>>> White House wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam
>>> Hussein was a very bad man.
>> He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
>
> She had one?
>
Having a couple isn't THAT unusual.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:58:31
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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In article <eti54d02421@enews2.newsguy.com >, Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com>
wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>According to finance whiz Kunich, the dot-com bust was because Clinton
> >>didn't try to stop investors from dumping cash into lousy IPOs.
> >>
> >>http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/funds/investing/10341308.html
> >
> >
> > Dumbass,
> >
> > Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for, like,
> > 5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years ago?
Well,
> > one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the White House
> > wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam Hussein was a very
> > bad man.
> >
> >
>
> He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
What *didn't* he confess to?
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 08:26:30
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Joe Cipale wrote:
>> He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
Howard Kveck wrote:
> What *didn't* he confess to?
Taking Tammy Thomas's virginity ?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 19:39:02
From: Joe Cipale
Subject: Re: George Bush refuses to protect you
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <eti54d02421@enews2.newsguy.com>, Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Robert Chung wrote:
>>
>>>amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>According to finance whiz Kunich, the dot-com bust was because Clinton
>>>>didn't try to stop investors from dumping cash into lousy IPOs.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thestreet.com/_tscrss/funds/investing/10341308.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Dumbass,
>>>
>>>Quick! Look over there! The Al Qaeda guy we've had in Guantanamo for, like,
>>>5 years, who confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks several years ago?
>
> Well,
>
>>>one week before the 4-year anniversary of the invasion, the White House
>>>wants you to know he just confessed again! Plus, Saddam Hussein was a very
>>>bad man.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>He also confessed to taking Paris Hilton's virginity...
>
>
> What *didn't* he confess to?
>
Firing the US Atorneys.... no wait.. my bad. Britt Hume of Faux News
just said he did that too.
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