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Date: 29 Aug 2007 14:26:34
From: Marty
Subject: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
"Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
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Marty
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 11:47:34
From: lewdvig
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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On Aug 29, 3:26 pm, Marty <m_p...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
>
> See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> --
> Marty
Yeah, the Italian and Spaniard federations are just as bad but
criminal investigations have tied their hands.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 09:26:04
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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Marty wrote:
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
Kloden ? All he's been accused of is not being strident enough
in condemning others.
What a bunch of hyppocrites. As I said before I hope Valverde wins
and gives them an Arndt as he goes over the line.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 10:07:51
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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Donald Munro wrote:
> What a bunch of hyppocrites. As I said before I hope Valverde wins
> and gives them an Arndt as he goes over the line.
I see the the UCI have done their normal guilty by suspicion
number on Valverde. In that case I hope Zabel wins and gives
them an Arndt. And if he comes 2nd I hope he gives them two Arndt's,
prefarably up Paddies rear orifice.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 11:45:05
From:
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:07:51 +0200, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Donald Munro wrote:
>> What a bunch of hyppocrites. As I said before I hope Valverde wins
>> and gives them an Arndt as he goes over the line.
>
>I see the the UCI have done their normal guilty by suspicion
>number on Valverde. In that case I hope Zabel wins and gives
>them an Arndt. And if he comes 2nd I hope he gives them two Arndt's,
>prefarably up Paddies rear orifice.
Maybe give him a Wellens instead.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 08:27:51
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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Marty wrote:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
>
> See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> --
> Marty
>
The germans are damned hypocrites. The Bundesliga is dripping with dope
and the players are idolized as gods. Cycling tries to clean up its act
(somewhat) and are punished for doing so.
I am ashamed to live here.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 23:57:23
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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In article <5jn6bbFdh4sU1@mid.individual.net >, Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Marty wrote:
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
> >
> > "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> > championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> > have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
> >
> > See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> > tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> > competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> > --
> > Marty
> >
> The germans are damned hypocrites. The Bundesliga is dripping with dope
> and the players are idolized as gods. Cycling tries to clean up its act
> (somewhat) and are punished for doing so.
It is strange that they're being *so* agressive about this for cycling. Like
they're trying to prove that they're the biggest, baddest anti-doping enforcers.
Aren't reformed drunks and smokers the most obnoxious in chastising those who
still use?
--
tanx,
Howard
Fabergé eggs are elegant but I prefer Fabergé bacon.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 19:06:26
From: Charles
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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On Aug 29, 2:26 pm, Marty <m_p...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
>
> See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> --
> Marty
I feel that Zabel should compete in the World's. He was not forced
into confessing. However, Millar confessed then served a suspension.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 19:33:34
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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In article <1188439586.110588.289790@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com >,
Charles <h90943@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2:26 pm, Marty <m_p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
> >
> > "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> > championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> > have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
> >
> > See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> > tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> > competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> > --
> > Marty
>
> I feel that Zabel should compete in the World's. He was not forced
> into confessing. However, Millar confessed then served a suspension.
Well, Millar confessed once he was in police custody. Zabel voluntarily admitted
using EPO in a press conference. And it was for something that happened 11 years
prior. He certainly never tested positive for use of EPO (no, there were no tests for
it back then, but still). Statute of limitations, anyone? So keeping Zabel from
participating in the Worlds is pretty lame, I think.
--
tanx,
Howard
Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 16:01:45
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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On Aug 29, 5:26 pm, Marty <m_p...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
>
> See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> --
> Marty
The Germans have gone off the deep end again. At least the mania this
time is only causing casualties among cycling folks. Lots of examples,
but this is just another:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/aug07/aug29news2
Doping allegations against German U23 coach
They picked this guy to replace the last guy who was "suspended" on
accusation.
Just march off anyone even accused to prison. There WILL be good
order!!
Bill C
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 00:08:33
From: alex beascoechea
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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The UCI has asked the spanish federation to reopen the investigation on
Valverde (Puerto). This means he will not be able to participate in the WC
(as the organizers were demanding).
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Federacion/estudiara/caso/Valverde/abrirle/expediente/elpepudep/20070829elpepudep_13/Tes
BTW:
Does anybody knows what is going on with Iban Mayo's B-sample? The test were
suppossed to be performed last week and the results made public on Monday.
But nothing has been reported...
"Marty" <m_piet@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1188422794.454473.281600@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-worlds-zabel&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> "Local officials with the organizing committee of the Sept. 26-30
> championship in Stuttgart, Germany, have mounted a vocal campaign to
> have Zabel and Kloeden excluded from the event."
>
> See what fessing up will do for you. You get labeled as "drug-
> tainted" and then the "local officials" try to ban you from
> competing. What about drug-tainted David Millar?
> --
> Marty
>
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 09:26:58
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Germany includes drug-tainted Zabel on world championship team
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alex beascoechea wrote:
> Does anybody knows what is going on with Iban Mayo's B-sample? The test were
> suppossed to be performed last week and the results made public on Monday.
> But nothing has been reported...
They run the tests over and over until they return a positive.
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