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Date: 08 Apr 2007 04:07:45
From: ST
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?uURhbWFzY3VzIE5hbmN5uQ==?= And Unlawful Diplomacy
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http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
"Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the Israeli
government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only missed
the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 15:45:28
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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"ST" <no@no.com > wrote in message news:C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com...
> http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
>
> "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
> Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
> why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
> branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
> ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the
> Israeli
> government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only missed
> the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 15:15:34
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <siOSh.136230$_73.113840@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "ST" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com...
> > http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
> >
> > "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
> > Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
> > why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
> > branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
> > ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the
> > Israeli
> > government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only missed
> > the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
>
> You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
If you think it applies here, Tommy, then you have no excuse for not ripping on
Gingrich and Hastert for their stellar work back in the '90s, right? This is as
much of a NONtroversy as the last one that gave you a stiffy, the airplane b.s.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 01:06:05
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-1F5858.15153410042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <siOSh.136230$_73.113840@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "ST" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com...
>> > http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
>> >
>> > "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
>> > Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria
>> > shows
>> > why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the
>> > executive
>> > branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed
>> > a
>> > ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the
>> > Israeli
>> > government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only
>> > missed
>> > the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
>>
>> You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
>
> If you think it applies here, Tommy, then you have no excuse for not
> ripping on
> Gingrich and Hastert for their stellar work back in the '90s, right? This
> is as
> much of a NONtroversy as the last one that gave you a stiffy, the airplane
> b.s.
You're about as dumb as they come aren't you? Of course I guess I should
expect anything of value in any of your postings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 18:40:40
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <1wWSh.21471$tD2.10375@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:YOURhoward-1F5858.15153410042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <siOSh.136230$_73.113840@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
> >
> > If you think it applies here, Tommy, then you have no excuse for not
> > ripping on Gingrich and Hastert for their stellar work back in the '90s, right?
> > This is as much of a NONtroversy as the last one that gave you a stiffy, the
> > airplane b.s.
>
> You're about as dumb as they come aren't you? Of course I guess I should
> expect anything of value in any of your postings.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom. Here's a few of the problems with
trying to apply that to this situation: Pelosi talked with Bush the day before
their *bi-partisan* delegation left, and mentioned that they would be stopping in
Syria and meeting with the Syrian leadership. He raised no objections. Furthmore,
there were State Department officials in *every* meeting they had. They raised no
objections. The group that Pelosi was in delivered the same message to Syria that
Bush has been mumbling about - to engage with Israel. The Baker-Hamilton Report
said to engage the Syrians but your hero unCurious George just can't bring himself
to do it.
Richard Holbrooke: "I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion by
a deliberate ambush plan by the opposition ‹ in this case the Republicans ‹ and,
frankly, exploited by journalists who are just looking for a controversy. There is
no issue here. Congressman Wolf, a major Republican, was in the region a few days
earlier. Republicans were on her trip. There is no issue. None."
As I mentioned, you didn't object to Gingrich and Hastert actively engaging in
foreign policy adventures back when Clinton was President, did you?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/be25942fe5c73abe?hl
This is a non-issue, designed to whip people like you into a frenzy.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 04:47:59
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-86B973.18404010042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>
> I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom.
I'm surprised that you can spell it.
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 00:13:50
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <3MZSh.1837$3P3.251@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:YOURhoward-86B973.18404010042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >
> > I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom.
>
> I'm surprised that you can spell it.
Not having an answer to the substance, so Tommy attempts an insult. I'm
surprised that you show your face around here, considering how frequently you're
wrong about things. Which is just about every time you hit "post".
In '75, the State Department said:
"The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit unauthorized
persons from intervening in disputes between the United States and foreign
governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict
members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in
pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution."
The Logan Act is a non-issue here. Still.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 18:03:15
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-18D908.00135011042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <3MZSh.1837$3P3.251@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
>> news:YOURhoward-86B973.18404010042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> >
>> > I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom.
>>
>> I'm surprised that you can spell it.
>
> Not having an answer to the substance, so Tommy attempts an insult. I'm
> surprised that you show your face around here, considering how frequently
> you're
> wrong about things. Which is just about every time you hit "post".
>
> In '75, the State Department said:
>
> "The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit
> unauthorized
> persons from intervening in disputes between the United States and foreign
> governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to
> restrict
> members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign
> officials in
> pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution."
>
> The Logan Act is a non-issue here. Still.
Then perhaps you'd like to explain to us what the duty of the House Majority
Leader is persuant to legislative duties concerning Syria?
Or maybe you've missed the fact that the Democrats have been complaining
that the USA has only accepted some 500 Iraqi refugees instead of the 3.5
million that fled to Syria which the Democrats believe we should be
accepting as immigrants here?
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 16:42:17
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <Dp9Th.1966$3P3.1517@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:YOURhoward-18D908.00135011042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <3MZSh.1837$3P3.251@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:YOURhoward-86B973.18404010042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> >
> >> > I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom.
> >>
> >> I'm surprised that you can spell it.
> >
> > Not having an answer to the substance, so Tommy attempts an insult. I'm
> > surprised that you show your face around here, considering how frequently
> > you're
> > wrong about things. Which is just about every time you hit "post".
> >
> > In '75, the State Department said:
> >
> > "The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit
> > unauthorized persons from intervening in disputes between the United States
> > and foreign governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would
> > appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with
> > foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the
> > Constitution."
> >
> > The Logan Act is a non-issue here. Still.
>
> Then perhaps you'd like to explain to us what the duty of the House Majority
> Leader is persuant to legislative duties concerning Syria?
It's quite apparent that you have no comprehension of what the job of
Representative entails, so why are you bothering to bloviate about the Logan Act?
Which is funny, considering you called me "dumb". You're simply being contentious
for the sake of being contentious. Either you really don't understand the issue and
can't bring yourself to ask or you just want to waste time.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 12 Apr 2007 05:15:06
From: Ken Prager
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <YOURhoward-73CFA6.16421711042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com >,
Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <Dp9Th.1966$3P3.1517@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> > news:YOURhoward-18D908.00135011042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > > In article <3MZSh.1837$3P3.251@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:YOURhoward-86B973.18404010042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm aware of what the Logan Act is, Tom.
> > >>
> > >> I'm surprised that you can spell it.
> > >
> > > Not having an answer to the substance, so Tommy attempts an insult. I'm
> > > surprised that you show your face around here, considering how frequently
> > > you're
> > > wrong about things. Which is just about every time you hit "post".
> > >
> > > In '75, the State Department said:
> > >
> > > "The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit
> > > unauthorized persons from intervening in disputes between the United
> > > States
> > > and foreign governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however,
> > > would
> > > appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions
> > > with
> > > foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the
> > > Constitution."
> > >
> > > The Logan Act is a non-issue here. Still.
> >
> > Then perhaps you'd like to explain to us what the duty of the House
> > Majority
> > Leader is persuant to legislative duties concerning Syria?
>
> It's quite apparent that you have no comprehension of what the job of
> Representative entails, so why are you bothering to bloviate about the Logan
> Act?
> Which is funny, considering you called me "dumb". You're simply being
> contentious
> for the sake of being contentious. Either you really don't understand the
> issue and
> can't bring yourself to ask or you just want to waste time.
...which is what happens when one gets his news primarily from Fox "News"
K
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Date: 12 Apr 2007 00:55:39
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-73CFA6.16421711042007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <Dp9Th.1966$3P3.1517@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>> Then perhaps you'd like to explain to us what the duty of the House
>> Majority
>> Leader is persuant to legislative duties concerning Syria?
>
> It's quite apparent that you have no comprehension of what the job of
> Representative entails
HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
Kveck, I just HAVE to get a picture of you and post it here.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 16:46:20
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B9Damascus_Nancy=B9_And_Unlawful_Dip?=
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <siOSh.136230$_73.113840@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "ST" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com...
>>> http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
>>>
>>> "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
>>> Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
>>> why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
>>> branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
>>> ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the
>>> Israeli
>>> government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only missed
>>> the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
>> You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
>
> If you think it applies here, Tommy, then you have no excuse for not ripping on
> Gingrich and Hastert for their stellar work back in the '90s, right? This is as
> much of a NONtroversy as the last one that gave you a stiffy, the airplane b.s.
>
Things run in cycles. There was a time, back in the early 80's when
shrill sounding liberals ran around freaking out about how the
conservatives would be the death of us all, unleashing nuclear war and
economic devastation and such. Now it's the conservatives' turn. No big
deal.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 17:22:58
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: ¹Damascus Nancy¹ And Unlawful Diplomacy
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In article <CLGdnU5E6fstvIHbnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos > wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > In article <siOSh.136230$_73.113840@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >> "ST" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com...
> >>> http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
> >>>
> >>> "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
> >>> Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
> >>> why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
> >>> branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
> >>> ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the
> >>> Israeli
> >>> government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only
> >>> missed
> >>> the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
> >> You'd almost think that there never was such a thing as The Logan Act.
> >
> > If you think it applies here, Tommy, then you have no excuse for not
> > ripping on
> > Gingrich and Hastert for their stellar work back in the '90s, right? This
> > is as
> > much of a NONtroversy as the last one that gave you a stiffy, the airplane
> > b.s.
> >
>
> Things run in cycles. There was a time, back in the early 80's when
> shrill sounding liberals ran around freaking out about how the
> conservatives would be the death of us all, unleashing nuclear war and
> economic devastation and such. Now it's the conservatives' turn. No big
> deal.
I remember the early '80s well. I heard a lot of talk about fascism and related
things. It seems almost quaint now. Little did we know how not so bad it was then.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 04:35:39
From: ST
Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?B?uURhbWFzY3VzIE5hbmN5uQ==?= And Unlawful
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On 4/7/07 9:07 PM, in article C23DB8A0.218C1A%no@no.com, "ST" <no@no.com >
wrote:
> http://www.agoravox.com/article.php3?id_article=5836
>
> "Damascus Nancy" And Unlawful Diplomacy
> Nancy Pelosi¹s recent bumbling foray into foreign policy with Syria shows
> why diplomacy should be left to that branch of government - the executive
> branch - that actually has the authority to conduct it. Pelosi conveyed a
> ¹peace message¹ from Ehud Olmert to Bashar Assad that - woops! - the Israeli
> government says it never gave to Pelosi. Apparently Nuancy not only missed
> the shades of gray there, she missed the black and white as well.
>
This keeps getting better.............
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1813777/posts
Democrat met opposition leader in Egypt
(Steny Hoyer met Muslim Brotherhood's parliament leader)
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