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Date: 23 Jul 2007 20:54:14
From: _
Subject: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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...is it a tie?
Do ties ever happen?
(TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 12:31:13
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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On Jul 23, 6:36 pm, "RJG" <r...@noname.com > wrote:
> "William Asher" <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:Xns99769DF9DAC33FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
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> > benjo maso wrote:
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> >> "DirtRoadie" <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1185226582.280393.186880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Jul 23, 2:54 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> ...is it a tie?
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> >>> No
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> >>>> Do ties ever happen?
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> >>>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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> >>> Lemond, Hinault - L'Alpe D'Huez 1986
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> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMkZN-PGCo
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> >> It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at
> >> some point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done
> >> for days). Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in
> >> triumph, but released him just in time to cross the line in first
> >> place. Oifficial results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
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> > No gifts.
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> Unless you are on the receiving end....then it's OK.
"Pay-back is a bitch... and preferrably a podium girl." -- BF
> It's more a guideline than an actual rule.
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 04:14:08
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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On Jul 23, 8:55 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> _ wrote:
> > ...is it a tie?
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> > Do ties ever happen?
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> > (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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> 1907, Stage 2 Roubaix-Metz
> Georget, Emile/Trousselier, Louis
> 1934, Stage 5 Belfort- Evian-les-Bains
> Speicher, Georges/Le Greves, Ren=E9
> 1937, Stage 17b Royan-Saintes
> Braeckeveldt, Adolf/Wengler, Heinz
> 1938, Stage 21 Lille-Paris
> Leducq, Andr=E9/Magne, Antonin
Dumbass,
www.homo.com.
Sincerely,
Ronde Champ
(C'mon, somebody had to say it.)
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 14:17:57
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
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> Dumbass,
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> www.homo.com.
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> Sincerely,
> Ronde Champ
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> (C'mon, somebody had to say it.)
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Well, I do think the Lemond/Hinault stuff is kind
of gay.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 03:55:22
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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_ wrote:
> ...is it a tie?
>
> Do ties ever happen?
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> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
1907, Stage 2 Roubaix-Metz
Georget, Emile/Trousselier, Louis
1934, Stage 5 Belfort- Evian-les-Bains
Speicher, Georges/Le Greves, René
1937, Stage 17b Royan-Saintes
Braeckeveldt, Adolf/Wengler, Heinz
1938, Stage 21 Lille-Paris
Leducq, André/Magne, Antonin
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 10:38:11
From: _
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:55:22 GMT, Bob Schwartz wrote:
> _ wrote:
>> ...is it a tie?
>>
>> Do ties ever happen?
>>
>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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> 1907, Stage 2 Roubaix-Metz
> Georget, Emile/Trousselier, Louis
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> 1934, Stage 5 Belfort- Evian-les-Bains
> Speicher, Georges/Le Greves, René
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> 1937, Stage 17b Royan-Saintes
> Braeckeveldt, Adolf/Wengler, Heinz
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> 1938, Stage 21 Lille-Paris
> Leducq, André/Magne, Antonin
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> Bob Schwartz
I guess what I wanted to know is:
Can the two riders decide that they wish to tie? In otherwords, if they
ride across holding hands/shoulders/whatever, clearly indicating this; is
it a rule or the custom that the officials must declare a tie?
Sometimes I'd like to see honour trump glory.
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 13:31:42
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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_ <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com > writes:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 03:55:22 GMT, Bob Schwartz wrote:
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>> _ wrote:
>>> ...is it a tie?
>>>
>>> Do ties ever happen?
>>>
>>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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>> 1907, Stage 2 Roubaix-Metz
>> Georget, Emile/Trousselier, Louis
>>
>> 1934, Stage 5 Belfort- Evian-les-Bains
>> Speicher, Georges/Le Greves, René
>>
>> 1937, Stage 17b Royan-Saintes
>> Braeckeveldt, Adolf/Wengler, Heinz
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>> 1938, Stage 21 Lille-Paris
>> Leducq, André/Magne, Antonin
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>>
>> Bob Schwartz
>
> I guess what I wanted to know is:
>
> Can the two riders decide that they wish to tie? In otherwords, if they
> ride across holding hands/shoulders/whatever, clearly indicating this; is
> it a rule or the custom that the officials must declare a tie?
>
> Sometimes I'd like to see honour trump glory.
Problem is, unfortunately, that the Modern Day PhotoFinish cameras
don't lie
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
ODE to VINO
http://azurservers.com/rbr/Bard_Marc_Gunn-Killiecrankie.mp3
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 14:36:22
From: DirtRoadie
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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On Jul 23, 2:54 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com >
wrote:
> ...is it a tie?
No
> Do ties ever happen?
>
> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
Lemond, Hinault - L'Alpe D'Huez 1986
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMkZN-PGCo
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 00:14:45
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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"DirtRoadie" <DirtRoadie@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1185226582.280393.186880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 23, 2:54 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com>
> wrote:
>> ...is it a tie?
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> No
>
>> Do ties ever happen?
>>
>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
>
> Lemond, Hinault - L'Alpe D'Huez 1986
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMkZN-PGCo
It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at some
point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done for days).
Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in triumph, but
released him just in time to cross the line in first place. Oifficial
results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
Benjo
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 22:32:01
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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benjo maso wrote:
>
> "DirtRoadie" <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1185226582.280393.186880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 23, 2:54 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com>
>> wrote:
>>> ...is it a tie?
>>
>> No
>>
>>> Do ties ever happen?
>>>
>>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
>>
>> Lemond, Hinault - L'Alpe D'Huez 1986
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMkZN-PGCo
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> It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at
> some point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done
> for days). Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in
> triumph, but released him just in time to cross the line in first
> place. Oifficial results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
No gifts.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 20:36:03
From: RJG
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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"William Asher" <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99769DF9DAC33FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
> benjo maso wrote:
>
>>
>> "DirtRoadie" <DirtRoadie@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1185226582.280393.186880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jul 23, 2:54 pm, _ <jtayNOSPAM...@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> ...is it a tie?
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>>> Do ties ever happen?
>>>>
>>>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
>>>
>>> Lemond, Hinault - L'Alpe D'Huez 1986
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMkZN-PGCo
>>
>> It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at
>> some point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done
>> for days). Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in
>> triumph, but released him just in time to cross the line in first
>> place. Oifficial results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
>
> No gifts.
>
> --
> Bill Asher
Unless you are on the receiving end....then it's OK.
It's more a guideline than an actual rule.
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 18:00:35
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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William Asher wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
>> It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at
>> some point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done
>> for days). Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in
>> triumph, but released him just in time to cross the line in first
>> place. Oifficial results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
>
> No gifts.
>
Lemond gifted it to Hinault
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 01:04:46
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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"Geraard Spergen" <GSpergen@spammagnet.net > wrote in message
news:00f07073$0$21653$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> William Asher wrote:
>> benjo maso wrote:
>
>>> It wasn't a tie. Both riders did everything to simulate friendship (at
>>> some point they even spoke to each other, something they hadn=t done
>>> for days). Close to the finish Hinault raised Lemond's arm high in
>>> triumph, but released him just in time to cross the line in first
>>> place. Oifficial results: 1. Hinault 2. Lemond.
>>
>> No gifts.
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> Lemond gifted it to Hinault
Absolutely true - in the video you can see him push Bernard forward.
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 23:06:21
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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"_" <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com > wrote in message
news:qibb6jh31yjw$.gonj9g4c9ih8$.dlg@40tude.net...
> ...is it a tie?
>
> Do ties ever happen?
>
> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
The last stage of the 1938 Tour when Antonin Magne and André Leducq passed
the finish in Paris with hands around each other shoulders.
Benjo
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 21:55:12
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: If they ride across the finish line holding hands...
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benjo maso wrote:
> "_" <jtayNOSPAMlor@hfDONTSENDMESPAMx.andara.com> wrote in message
> news:qibb6jh31yjw$.gonj9g4c9ih8$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> ...is it a tie?
>>
>> Do ties ever happen?
>>
>> (TdF mainly, but other stories of instances welcome.)
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> The last stage of the 1938 Tour when Antonin Magne and André Leducq passed
> the finish in Paris with hands around each other shoulders.
>
> Benjo
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2003/tour03/five/tdf-1986-lemond-hinault-14.jpg
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