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Date: 24 May 2007 10:44:25
From:
Subject: I'm a real man, too
Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
it'll make you guys admire me more.





 
Date: 25 May 2007 09:53:17
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 8:57 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:

> Also, I used to ride with these guys who famously
> "knew all the burn spots in XXXXXXXXX County"
> (and I don't mean forest fires; gwhite can explain)

I always thought the redwood "grove" on Valencia was one of the cuter
spots. I did not burn, as I was only along for the ride.

> ...and I knew it was against the law, ...

As I've pointed out before, there is no duty to obey The State. So
rest with an easy mind.



 
Date: 24 May 2007 20:57:11
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 7:09 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On May 24, 8:39 pm, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr> wrote:
>
> > > I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is DAILY
> > > use of Approvel and Tahor.
>
> > Hmmm. Obviously, le peloton roule a deux vitesses.
>
> You dirty dopers! Even down into the non-competing ranks! No wonder the
> other Cat 4s all left me behind this year: They doped, and thus didn't
> gain 20 pounds each in the off season.
>
> I'd rather be clean,

I once dropped a clif bar in a mountain bike race
and didn't stop to pick it up <sob >. God, I feel
awful living with this shame. I hope Smokey the Bear
isn't reading this, or that crying Indian from the
TV commercial.

Also, although I am not a _habitual_ doper, I am a
habitual dope.

Also, I used to ride with these guys who famously
"knew all the burn spots in XXXXXXXXX County"
(and I don't mean forest fires; gwhite can explain)
and I knew it was against the law, "but still I
said nothing," as in the Martin Niemoller aphorism.
I see now that my failure to inform on my fellows
was wrong.

Ben
Next, I'm going to write a confessional memoir
called "A Thousand Little T-Patches." Ryan
Cousineau will beat me to market with a memoir
called "A Thousand Little Donuts."



  
Date: 25 May 2007 04:27:21
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <1180065431.566835.49520@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:

> On May 24, 7:09 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On May 24, 8:39 pm, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > > I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is
> > > > DAILY
> > > > use of Approvel and Tahor.
> >
> > > Hmmm. Obviously, le peloton roule a deux vitesses.
> >
> > You dirty dopers! Even down into the non-competing ranks! No wonder the
> > other Cat 4s all left me behind this year: They doped, and thus didn't
> > gain 20 pounds each in the off season.
> >
> > I'd rather be clean,
>
> I once dropped a clif bar in a mountain bike race
> and didn't stop to pick it up <sob>. God, I feel
> awful living with this shame. I hope Smokey the Bear
> isn't reading this, or that crying Indian from the
> TV commercial.
>
> Also, although I am not a _habitual_ doper, I am a
> habitual dope.
>
> Also, I used to ride with these guys who famously
> "knew all the burn spots in XXXXXXXXX County"
> (and I don't mean forest fires; gwhite can explain)
> and I knew it was against the law, "but still I
> said nothing," as in the Martin Niemoller aphorism.
> I see now that my failure to inform on my fellows
> was wrong.
>
> Ben
> Next, I'm going to write a confessional memoir
> called "A Thousand Little T-Patches." Ryan
> Cousineau will beat me to market with a memoir
> called "A Thousand Little Donuts."

Problem is, mine really will be true.

Only a thousand?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 24 May 2007 22:32:45
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On 24 May 2007 10:44:25 -0700, rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:

>Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
>I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
>ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
>that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
>it'll make you guys admire me more.

Hah, you can have that fancy modern stuff. I use old fashioned albuterol before
*I* ride. Same drug that worked for so many bodybuilders back in the day.

Ron


 
Date: 24 May 2007 17:00:41
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> it'll make you guys admire me more.
>

Perfect response. I'm tempted to pile on here (knowing it would prove me
a REAL MAN, of course).


  
Date: 24 May 2007 23:45:43
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <TtadnQo_JZL1usvbnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Fred Fredburger <Spam@spambot.com > wrote:

> rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> > Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> > I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> > ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> > that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> > it'll make you guys admire me more.
> >
>
> Perfect response. I'm tempted to pile on here (knowing it would prove me
> a REAL MAN, of course).

Posting under your "real name" would make you a real man to TK. For about two
seconds...

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


   
Date: 25 May 2007 17:12:52
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <TtadnQo_JZL1usvbnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Fred Fredburger <Spam@spambot.com> wrote:
>
>> rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
>>> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
>>> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
>>> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
>>> it'll make you guys admire me more.
>>>
>> Perfect response. I'm tempted to pile on here (knowing it would prove me
>> a REAL MAN, of course).
>
> Posting under your "real name" would make you a real man to TK. For about two
> seconds...
>

Why in the world would anyone believe that "Fred Fredburger" is not my
real name? I certainly do my best to live up to the name.

FWIW, I believe TK would actually be more impressed by a large, sweaty
man pile then anyone's name. You can take that a couple different ways,
either of them are true.


    
Date: 25 May 2007 19:32:47
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <qoGdnX-hhvsI5srbnZ2dnUVZ_tOmnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Fred Fredburger <Spam@spambot.com > wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > In article <TtadnQo_JZL1usvbnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > Fred Fredburger <Spam@spambot.com> wrote:
> >
> >> rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> >>> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> >>> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> >>> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> >>> it'll make you guys admire me more.
> >>>
> >> Perfect response. I'm tempted to pile on here (knowing it would prove me
> >> a REAL MAN, of course).
> >
> > Posting under your "real name" would make you a real man to TK. For
> > about two seconds...
> >
>
> Why in the world would anyone believe that "Fred Fredburger" is not my
> real name? I certainly do my best to live up to the name.
>
> FWIW, I believe TK would actually be more impressed by a large, sweaty
> man pile then anyone's name. You can take that a couple different ways,
> either of them are true.

Heh, TK and piles do go together, don't they? From large, sweaty man piles to
enormous, steaming turdpiles...

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


 
Date: 24 May 2007 13:38:54
From: Jeff Jones
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 6:44 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> it'll make you guys admire me more.

That's a great start. I'm moved to say that I drink coffee before a
ride. Not all the time, but enough to put me in amongst...that crowd.

Oh hell, I might as well come clean. I drink beer after a ride.
Sometimes lots of it. And for some reason, I usually ride OK the next
day.

Sob.

There. I feel better now.

Jeff



  
Date: 24 May 2007 23:02:10
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
Dans le message de
news:1180039134.209839.240210@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com,
Jeff Jones <drjones99@gmail.com > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> On May 24, 6:44 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
>> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
>> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
>> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
>> it'll make you guys admire me more.
>
> That's a great start. I'm moved to say that I drink coffee before a
> ride. Not all the time, but enough to put me in amongst...that crowd.
>
> Oh hell, I might as well come clean. I drink beer after a ride.
> Sometimes lots of it. And for some reason, I usually ride OK the next
> day.
>
> Sob.
>
> There. I feel better now.
>
> Jeff

You spoke too soon!
The deal is that you have to give these things up, now.
(or maybe you can lie about giving them up - optional)
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR




 
Date: 24 May 2007 13:36:20
From:
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com > wrote:

> The peloton has two mommies?

Dick Cheney's new grandson's name is "Peloton?"



 
Date: 24 May 2007 12:19:06
From:
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 8:39 pm, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr > wrote:
>
> I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is DAILY
> use of Approvel and Tahor.

Hmmm. Obviously, le peloton roule a deux vitesses.



  
Date: 25 May 2007 02:09:03
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <1180034346.321563.245360@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:

> On May 24, 8:39 pm, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr> wrote:
> >
> > I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is DAILY
> > use of Approvel and Tahor.
>
> Hmmm. Obviously, le peloton roule a deux vitesses.

You dirty dopers! Even down into the non-competing ranks! No wonder the
other Cat 4s all left me behind this year: They doped, and thus didn't
gain 20 pounds each in the off season.

I'd rather be clean,

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


   
Date: 25 May 2007 10:40:22
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> You dirty dopers! Even down into the non-competing ranks! No wonder the
> other Cat 4s all left me behind this year: They doped, and thus didn't
> gain 20 pounds each in the off season.

You mean diet pills count ? Does a Red Bull before a race count ? Please
tell me I won't have to tell all on Oprah's fatty master confession
program.




    
Date: 26 May 2007 01:37:40
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <4656a1d9$0$31254$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > You dirty dopers! Even down into the non-competing ranks! No wonder the
> > other Cat 4s all left me behind this year: They doped, and thus didn't
> > gain 20 pounds each in the off season.
>
> You mean diet pills count ? Does a Red Bull before a race count ? Please
> tell me I won't have to tell all on Oprah's fatty master confession
> program.

It's not that you have to. It's that it's the more lucrative choice.

It doesn't hurt less, you just dope better.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


  
Date: 24 May 2007 19:54:29
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 24, 8:39 pm, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr> wrote:
>> I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is DAILY
>> use of Approvel and Tahor.
>
> Hmmm. Obviously, le peloton roule a deux vitesses.
>

The peloton has two mommies?

Steve

--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001


 
Date: 24 May 2007 20:39:46
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
Dans le message de
news:1180028665.869756.44340@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,
rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com <rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com > a réfléchi, et
puis a déclaré :
> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> it'll make you guys admire me more.

I'll call your Qvar with a hit of Ventolin, but the winning hand is DAILY
use of Approvel and Tahor. Life in France and cycling here is a balance
between Coulommiers and statins. Not to mention out of season rides with
warm and sugared red wine. Red is red, blood or otherwise.




 
Date: 24 May 2007 14:04:27
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.

I am trying to cry now. Someone please hug me. Someone?


--
JT
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Date: 25 May 2007 04:01:26
From: bar
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
> > we often smoke reefer and giggle at the back of the goon ride here in
> > DC while the hammerhead cat 3s are up front 'putting in the hard
> > yards' getting ready for the weekend's epic 18 mile flat crit.
>
> Hmm, the helmet zealot smokes pot while on a ride. What will the children think!

why, they'll think nothing of it since i also lie to them about it (i
lie to children, remember?).

and, for the record, i'm not a helmet zealot -- why just the other day
i went on a training ride trying to emulate my hero mike sayers with
just my bald head and my ipod -- i just think kids should wear helmets
when riding, that's all.

meanwhile, i'd also like to confess to use of the stimulant "red bull"
to prepare for group rides. once, me and a few others got dropped,
and we couldn't figure out why. so we sat on a curb (smoking reefer
of course) and talked about what to do. after a while we resolved to
begin a program of red bull before each group ride, and for 3 solid
years we were never dropped again.

sigh. there, it's out.



  
Date: 24 May 2007 15:20:27
From: bar
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 5:07 pm, benn.trov...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On May 24, 11:04 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
> > just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
> > teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.
>
> > I am trying to cry now. Someone please hug me. Someone?
>
> I went for a ride on acid, once, although it seems I spent a lot of
> the time watching the oak leaves turn to mulch. I'm sure I would have
> hugged you at the time... But I gave all that up.

we often smoke reefer and giggle at the back of the goon ride here in
DC while the hammerhead cat 3s are up front 'putting in the hard
yards' getting ready for the weekend's epic 18 mile flat crit.




   
Date: 24 May 2007 23:40:16
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
In article <1180045227.601694.291680@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
bar <barbaricia@gmail.com > wrote:

> On May 24, 5:07 pm, benn.trov...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On May 24, 11:04 am, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
> > > just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
> > > teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.
> >
> > > I am trying to cry now. Someone please hug me. Someone?
> >
> > I went for a ride on acid, once, although it seems I spent a lot of
> > the time watching the oak leaves turn to mulch. I'm sure I would have
> > hugged you at the time... But I gave all that up.
>
> we often smoke reefer and giggle at the back of the goon ride here in
> DC while the hammerhead cat 3s are up front 'putting in the hard
> yards' getting ready for the weekend's epic 18 mile flat crit.

Hmm, the helmet zealot smokes pot while on a ride. What will the children think!

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


  
Date: 24 May 2007 20:37:59
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
in message <sqkb53h795vvr3pf3og4e20psn6gm2k31t@4ax.com >, John Forrest
Tomlinson ('usenetremove@jt10000.com') wrote:

> I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
> just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
> teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.

I'm more real man than you. I take Warfarin, which is a performance
degrading drug, to make cycling harder.

--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; better than your average performing pineapple



   
Date: 24 May 2007 16:24:49
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On Thu, 24 May 2007 20:37:59 +0100, Simon Brooke
<simon@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:

>I'm more real man than you. I take Warfarin, which is a performance
>degrading drug, to make cycling harder.

Sign of a doper - the blood is leaving your body way faster than the
testers can test it. From all sorts of places. But it is really,
really tested on rats. Lots.

Curtis L. Russell
Who just realized I misspelled the drug earlier...


  
Date: 24 May 2007 20:31:32
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

> I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
> just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
> teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.
>
> I am trying to cry now. Someone please hug me. Someone?

Tugboat would give you a hug if he was still around.


  
Date: 24 May 2007 14:25:49
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:04:27 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:

>I used Lidocaine on a saddle sore before a race in the mid-1990s. I
>just can't live with this sort of secret anymore. I am sorry to all my
>teammates, my wife and family, and most of all to the sport I love.
>
>I am trying to cry now. Someone please hug me. Someone?

I take Atenolol, Avilide and some other drug that starts with an A -
all A list stuff for me. They let me climb hills without everyone else
worrying about having to ride across my dead body. OTOH, anyone that
tries to hug me, dies. I carry a Shillelagh for a reason...

Unless Scarlett Johansson is reading this list. OK, maybe Nicole
Kidman. And if Diane Lane were in the area and in a hugging mood, I
wouldn't hit her with the stick.

Curtis L. Russell
OK, maybe Sharon Stone, if its a depressing day


 
Date: 24 May 2007 10:55:35
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: I'm a real man, too
On May 24, 7:44 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> Okay, since admitting to doping appears to get so much approval here,
> I'd like to confess that I took Qvar (http://www.qvar.com) before my
> ride today. But I don't do it all the time. It's part of a "program"
> that I got from my doctor, and I'll be willing to inform on her if
> it'll make you guys admire me more.

Were there tears in your eyes as you wrote that? Does your doctor only
accept cash? If so, I'd be willing to admire you more.

Joseph