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Date: 24 Dec 2006 20:26:01
From: Jason Spaceman
Subject: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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From the article:
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dpa German Press Agency
Published: Sunday December 24, 2006
Brussels- The president of the International Olympic Committee Jacques Rogge
on Sunday came out in support of cyclists Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso. In an
interview on Sunday with the Belgian newspaper Het Laatse Nieuws Rogge said
that the two cyclists, who are suspected of having been doped, had not yet
been found guilty.
"The question whether they are guilty or not has not yet been answered.
Therefore Ullrich, Basso and the others are free to ride where they want
to.
"I know it might not be very nice to have them in the peloton, but it is
necessary. I believe very strongly in the principle that one is innocent
until proven guilty. ProTour teams need to understand that. It is not
enough just to think that a cyclist is guilty of doping."
Rogge said he believes that all top athletes should provide a DNA sample in
the fight against doping. "Today the cyclists give urine and blood,
tomorrow a DNA sample will also be acceptable. That is less painful than
giving a blood sample and the DNA sample can be kept under lock and key -
where is the problem?"
Rogge said he supported the tapping of phones and property searches in the
fight against doping. "We need to bring the next Fuentes affair into the
open."
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Read it at
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/IOC_president_Jacques_Rogge_support_12242006.html
J. Spaceman
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Date: 27 Dec 2006 16:07:46
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
>
> Rogge said he believes that all top athletes should provide a DNA sample in
> the fight against doping. "Today the cyclists give urine and blood,
> tomorrow a DNA sample will also be acceptable. That is less painful than
> giving a blood sample and the DNA sample can be kept under lock and key -
> where is the problem?"
dumbasses,
all this talk about dna samples is closing the stable door after the
horse has escaped.
a dna sample won't help you if you are trying to determine if a sample
from doping control is positve. all it does is help you if you happen
to find bags of blood in a fridge in madrid and want to identify who's
blood it is.
unless the same scenario as puerto arises, which is not likely since
dopers are probably stashing their blood in portugal or canada by now,
away from nosy euro cops, fighting to for the right to take dna samples
is probably a waste of time ... unless someone has plans to do "an LNDD
job" and use the samples to ID the madrid blood for "research purposes".
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Date: 28 Dec 2006 12:46:40
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
> unless the same scenario as puerto arises, which is not likely since
> dopers are probably stashing their blood in portugal or canada by now
Dumbass,
Have you figured out what you're going to call your bank and when the IPO
will be ? Unless of course that other drunk canadian capitalist has
beaten you to it.
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Date: 25 Dec 2006 13:00:31
From: MyPostingID
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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On Dec 25, 12:50 am, nobody<nob...@nowhere.net > wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:26:01 -0500, Jason Spaceman
>
>
>
>
>
> <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
> >From the article:
> >-----------------------------------------------------------
> >dpa German Press Agency
> >Published: Sunday December 24, 2006
>
> >Brussels- The president of the International Olympic Committee Jacques Rogge
> >on Sunday came out in support of cyclists Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso. In an
> >interview on Sunday with the Belgian newspaper Het Laatse Nieuws Rogge said
> >that the two cyclists, who are suspected of having been doped, had not yet
> >been found guilty.
>
> >"The question whether they are guilty or not has not yet been answered.
> >Therefore Ullrich, Basso and the others are free to ride where they want
> >to.
>
> >"I know it might not be very nice to have them in the peloton, but it is
> >necessary. I believe very strongly in the principle that one is innocent
> >until proven guilty. ProTour teams need to understand that. It is not
> >enough just to think that a cyclist is guilty of doping."
>
> >Rogge said he believes that all top athletes should provide a DNA sample in
> >the fight against doping. "Today the cyclists give urine and blood,
> >tomorrow a DNA sample will also be acceptable. That is less painful than
> >giving a blood sample and the DNA sample can be kept under lock and key -
> >where is the problem?"
>
> >Rogge said he supported the tapping of phones and property searches in the
> >fight against doping. "We need to bring the next Fuentes affair into the
> >open."
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >Read it at
> >http://rawstory.com/news/2006/IOC_president_Jacques_Rogge_support_122...How about we tap Rogge's phone, search his garbage, look for his Pron
> collection, see what German fetish websites are in his browser cache, lol?
>
> For that matter, unannounced rec drug screens for all politicos. That'd
> shut 'em up fer good. ;-p
>
> Gotta like him supporting Ulle and Ivan, but he's not a privacy expert nor
> a medical expert; th' dumbass.
>
> Wait for the reply from WADA; should be a corker.
>
>
>
> >J. Spaceman- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Why just politicos? Why not everyone? Why not you and me? Who knows
what we might be up to.
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Date: 26 Dec 2006 19:46:01
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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In article
<1167080431.493636.72900@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"MyPostingID" <MyPostingID@gmail.com > wrote:
> Why just politicos? Why not everyone? Why not you and me? Who knows
> what we might be up to.
I haven't had so much as an aspirin in ten years.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 25 Dec 2006 17:04:05
From: nobody
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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On 25 Dec 2006 13:00:31 -0800, "MyPostingID" <MyPostingID@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>On Dec 25, 12:50 am, nobody<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:26:01 -0500, Jason Spaceman
>>
>> <notrea...@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
>> >From the article:
>> >-----------------------------------------------------------
>> >dpa German Press Agency
>> >Published: Sunday December 24, 2006
>>
>> >Brussels- The president of the International Olympic Committee Jacques Rogge
>> >on Sunday came out in support of cyclists Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso. In an
>> >interview on Sunday with the Belgian newspaper Het Laatse Nieuws Rogge said
>> >that the two cyclists, who are suspected of having been doped, had not yet
>> >been found guilty.
>>
>> >"The question whether they are guilty or not has not yet been answered.
>> >Therefore Ullrich, Basso and the others are free to ride where they want
>> >to.
>>
>> >"I know it might not be very nice to have them in the peloton, but it is
>> >necessary. I believe very strongly in the principle that one is innocent
>> >until proven guilty. ProTour teams need to understand that. It is not
>> >enough just to think that a cyclist is guilty of doping."
>>
>> >Rogge said he believes that all top athletes should provide a DNA sample in
>> >the fight against doping. "Today the cyclists give urine and blood,
>> >tomorrow a DNA sample will also be acceptable. That is less painful than
>> >giving a blood sample and the DNA sample can be kept under lock and key -
>> >where is the problem?"
>>
>> >Rogge said he supported the tapping of phones and property searches in the
>> >fight against doping. "We need to bring the next Fuentes affair into the
>> >open."
>> >-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> >Read it at
>> >http://rawstory.com/news/2006/IOC_president_Jacques_Rogge_support_122
>>...How about we tap Rogge's phone, search his garbage, look for his Pron
>> collection, see what German fetish websites are in his browser cache, lol?
>>
>> For that matter, unannounced rec drug screens for all politicos. That'd
>> shut 'em up fer good. ;-p
>>
>> Gotta like him supporting Ulle and Ivan, but he's not a privacy expert nor
>> a medical expert; th' dumbass.
>>
>> Wait for the reply from WADA; should be a corker.
>>
>>
>>
>> >J. Spaceman- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
>Why just politicos? Why not everyone? Why not you and me? Who knows
>what we might be up to.
JS,
Fine by me. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't do pron (have hot wife), and
last drug I did was caffeine and Aleve!
However I'm not making pronouncements about others' lifestyles and as far
as I'm concerned you can snort Ajax if you want to. It's your body, your
science project. ;-p
Seriously, though, I don't even bite my fingernails anymore. My only bad
habit is being OCD about weighing my food and looking at calorie counts.
(j/k)
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Date: 25 Dec 2006 00:50:24
From: nobody
Subject: Re: In the News: IOC president Jacques Rogge supports Ullrich and Basso
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On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:26:01 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org > wrote:
>From the article:
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>dpa German Press Agency
>Published: Sunday December 24, 2006
>
>Brussels- The president of the International Olympic Committee Jacques Rogge
>on Sunday came out in support of cyclists Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso. In an
>interview on Sunday with the Belgian newspaper Het Laatse Nieuws Rogge said
>that the two cyclists, who are suspected of having been doped, had not yet
>been found guilty.
>
>"The question whether they are guilty or not has not yet been answered.
>Therefore Ullrich, Basso and the others are free to ride where they want
>to.
>
>"I know it might not be very nice to have them in the peloton, but it is
>necessary. I believe very strongly in the principle that one is innocent
>until proven guilty. ProTour teams need to understand that. It is not
>enough just to think that a cyclist is guilty of doping."
>
>Rogge said he believes that all top athletes should provide a DNA sample in
>the fight against doping. "Today the cyclists give urine and blood,
>tomorrow a DNA sample will also be acceptable. That is less painful than
>giving a blood sample and the DNA sample can be kept under lock and key -
>where is the problem?"
>
>Rogge said he supported the tapping of phones and property searches in the
>fight against doping. "We need to bring the next Fuentes affair into the
>open."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Read it at
>http://rawstory.com/news/2006/IOC_president_Jacques_Rogge_support_12242006.html
How about we tap Rogge's phone, search his garbage, look for his Pron
collection, see what German fetish websites are in his browser cache, lol?
For that matter, unannounced rec drug screens for all politicos. That'd
shut 'em up fer good. ;-p
Gotta like him supporting Ulle and Ivan, but he's not a privacy expert nor
a medical expert; th' dumbass.
Wait for the reply from WADA; should be a corker.
>J. Spaceman
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