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Date: 08 Mar 2007 23:02:30
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Is It Legal?
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http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
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tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 22:03:36
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 12, 4:58 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> On 12, 4:45 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > > You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
>
> > > Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
> > > it.
> > > So yes, that would be illegal.
>
> > You saying that the designers would never sell their one-off concept?
>
> If I see you riding that thing, I'll have the
> Fashion Police arrest you and send you to jail
> for a million years, plus ground you for life.
> So yeah, it is illegal.
>
> Ben
> RBR Ministry of Taste
http://www.fischer-wade.net/bike_police.htm
Bret
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 21:46:58
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 12, 4:58 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org >
wrote:
> On 12, 4:45 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > > You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
>
> > > Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
> > > it.
> > > So yes, that would be illegal.
>
> > You saying that the designers would never sell their one-off concept?
>
> If I see you riding that thing, I'll have the
> Fashion Police arrest you and send you to jail
> for a million years, plus ground you for life.
> So yeah, it is illegal.
>
> Ben
> RBR Ministry of Taste
http://www.fischer-wade.net/bike_police.htm
Bret
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 16:58:00
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 12, 4:45 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com >
wrote:
>
> "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
> >
> > Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
> > it.
> > So yes, that would be illegal.
>
> You saying that the designers would never sell their one-off concept?
If I see you riding that thing, I'll have the
Fashion Police arrest you and send you to jail
for a million years, plus ground you for life.
So yeah, it is illegal.
Ben
RBR Ministry of Taste
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 02:56:21
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> On 12, 4:45 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield" <stev...@veloworks.com>
> wrote:
>> "rick-pau...@uiowa.edu" <rick-pau...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>> You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
>>>
>>> Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
>>> it.
>>> So yes, that would be illegal.
>> You saying that the designers would never sell their one-off concept?
>
> If I see you riding that thing, I'll have the
> Fashion Police arrest you and send you to jail
> for a million years, plus ground you for life.
> So yeah, it is illegal.
>
> Ben
> RBR Ministry of Taste
Penalties are doubled if you are wearing white socks.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 10:10:01
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> If I see you riding that thing, I'll have the
>> Fashion Police arrest you and send you to jail
>> for a million years, plus ground you for life.
>> So yeah, it is illegal.
Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Penalties are doubled if you are wearing white socks.
But long pink (or magenta) socks are OK.
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 08:23:07
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
--
Steven L. Sheffield
Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
it.
So yes, that would be illegal.
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 17:45:53
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 3/12/07 9:23 AM, in article
1173712987.537522.198110@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com,
"rick-paulos@uiowa.edu" <rick-paulos@uiowa.edu > wrote:
> You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
>
> --
> Steven L. Sheffield
>
> Well, since it's a 1-off concept, I'd guess you would have to steal
> it.
> So yes, that would be illegal.
You saying that the designers would never sell their one-off concept?
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 05:36:24
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 9, 4:14 am, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid > wrote:
> In article <rcousine-4A5091.00072009032...@news.telus.net>,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
> > In article <4o42v29vuo37dhgd0d3ff39in7qlcsq...@4ax.com>,
> > Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 08 2007 23:02:30 -0800, Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>
> > > Why the fender, and fender for the fender..?
>
> > I don't think that's the bike you should be worrying about:
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/shows/nahmbs07/?id=/photos/2007/...
> > /shows/nahmbs07/nahmbs075/Calfee_spider_bike_full_side_view
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
>
> Craig Calfee makes some of the most gorgeous bikes on the planet (I'd
> kill for a Luna Pista or Tandem).
>
> I like this one too.
>
> A pista version wouldn't get dirty enough to need cleaning.
>
> mg
> velodrome.com
> -
Craig should stop doing this stuff and try to concentrate on what made
him successful in the first place, well made carbon frames. These
circus bikes are a distraction for him and the quality of his frames
has suffered as a result.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 20:42:50
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On Thu, 08 2007 23:02:30 -0800, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com >
wrote:
>http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
Not as sexy as an old Cinelli funny bike, either.
Ron
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 11:56:17
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 9, 4:10 am, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid > wrote:
> In article <YOURhoward-18E068.23023008032...@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>
> no
You are right, its not legal on the streets in Portland, no hand
brakes!
Legal in most other locales except a few UCI sanctioned events or USCF
roadie events (no hand brakes/fixie). The bike has other UCI issues
besides the aero fender.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 15:29:24
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 9 2007 11:56:17 -0800, "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
<rick-paulos@uiowa.edu > wrote:
>On 9, 4:10 am, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <YOURhoward-18E068.23023008032...@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
>> Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>>
>> no
>
>
>You are right, its not legal on the streets in Portland, no hand
>brakes!
>
>Legal in most other locales except a few UCI sanctioned events or USCF
>roadie events (no hand brakes/fixie). The bike has other UCI issues
>besides the aero fender.
>
OK, it looks as if its only 'concept' is maybe the ultimate hour
record, so whats with the helmet that was painted to match? You design
a limited use single speed and you pair it with a helmet that isn't
the same concept at all? Or are ultimate aero helmets looking
different these days?
Just wondering. It does look cool. Not sure I would want to change
tires on the sucker, though.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 04:14:22
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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In article <qlg3v21de361rfg3qtra1b8i6jso9250so@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:
> On 9 2007 11:56:17 -0800, "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
> <rick-paulos@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>
> >On 9, 4:10 am, Mike G <mgl...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> In article <YOURhoward-18E068.23023008032...@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> >> Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
> >>
> >> no
> >
> >
> >You are right, its not legal on the streets in Portland, no hand
> >brakes!
> >
> >Legal in most other locales except a few UCI sanctioned events or USCF
> >roadie events (no hand brakes/fixie). The bike has other UCI issues
> >besides the aero fender.
> >
> OK, it looks as if its only 'concept' is maybe the ultimate hour
> record, so whats with the helmet that was painted to match? You design
> a limited use single speed and you pair it with a helmet that isn't
> the same concept at all? Or are ultimate aero helmets looking
> different these days?
Ultimate Hour record? 'cos I'm pretty sure that would be taken by a
faired recumbent.
That thing is a pure show bike, and nothing wrong with it. I think of it
as an imagination of where the Lotus-style "Superbike" trend might have
taken us.
http://www.lunt.demon.co.uk/bike.htm
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 19:24:55
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On Sat, 10 2007 04:14:22 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
>Ultimate Hour record? 'cos I'm pretty sure that would be taken by a
>faired recumbent.
>
>That thing is a pure show bike, and nothing wrong with it. I think of it
>as an imagination of where the Lotus-style "Superbike" trend might have
>taken us.
No problem there, but why not a helmet to match? Even a fake helmet...
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 23:03:38
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-178D73.20142109032007@news.telus.net...
>> >>
>> >> >http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>> >>
>> >> no
>> >
>> >
>> >You are right, its not legal on the streets in Portland, no hand
>> >brakes!
>> >
>> >Legal in most other locales except a few UCI sanctioned events or USCF
>> >roadie events (no hand brakes/fixie). The bike has other UCI issues
>> >besides the aero fender.
>> >
>> OK, it looks as if its only 'concept' is maybe the ultimate hour
>> record, so whats with the helmet that was painted to match? You design
>> a limited use single speed and you pair it with a helmet that isn't
>> the same concept at all? Or are ultimate aero helmets looking
>> different these days?
>
> Ultimate Hour record? 'cos I'm pretty sure that would be taken by a
> faired recumbent.
>
> That thing is a pure show bike, and nothing wrong with it. I think of it
> as an imagination of where the Lotus-style "Superbike" trend might have
> taken us.
>
> http://www.lunt.demon.co.uk/bike.htm
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this yet, but Indurain had an
similar fork without the fairing in front of the headset on a slightly
different version of the Pinarello Espada he rode for the hour record. At
the time it was legal for UCI. I heard nothing about why he didn't use it,
but I'm guessing it wasn't stable enough.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 10:10:36
From: Mike G
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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In article <YOURhoward-18E068.23023008032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com >,
Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
no
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 17:59:38
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On 3/9/07 3:10 AM, in article
mgladu-C8FEB0.04103609032007@news.west.earthlink.net, "Mike G"
<mgladu@mindspring.com.invalid > wrote:
> In article <YOURhoward-18E068.23023008032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>
> no
You mean I'll get arrested if I buy it?
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 08:57:20
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On Thu, 08 2007 23:02:30 -0800, Howard Kveck wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
Why the fender, and fender for the fender..?
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 08:07:48
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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In article <4o42v29vuo37dhgd0d3ff39in7qlcsqnnk@4ax.com >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:
> On Thu, 08 2007 23:02:30 -0800, Howard Kveck wrote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
>
> Why the fender, and fender for the fender..?
I don't think that's the bike you should be worrying about:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/shows/nahmbs07/?id=/photos/2007/tech
/shows/nahmbs07/nahmbs075/Calfee_spider_bike_full_side_view
http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 10:14:19
From: Mike G
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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In article <rcousine-4A5091.00072009032007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <4o42v29vuo37dhgd0d3ff39in7qlcsqnnk@4ax.com>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 08 2007 23:02:30 -0800, Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/34s9ln
> >
> > Why the fender, and fender for the fender..?
>
> I don't think that's the bike you should be worrying about:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/shows/nahmbs07/?id=/photos/2007/tech
> /shows/nahmbs07/nahmbs075/Calfee_spider_bike_full_side_view
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
Craig Calfee makes some of the most gorgeous bikes on the planet (I'd
kill for a Luna Pista or Tandem).
I like this one too.
A pista version wouldn't get dirty enough to need cleaning.
mg
velodrome.com
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 11:17:12
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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Mike G wrote:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
>
> Craig Calfee makes some of the most gorgeous bikes on the planet (I'd
> kill for a Luna Pista or Tandem).
>
> I like this one too.
>
> A pista version wouldn't get dirty enough to need cleaning.
I wonder what its CdA is.
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 16:17:48
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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"Robert Chung" <me@address.invalid > wrote in message
news:55cqh8F244b6pU1@mid.individual.net...
> Mike G wrote:
>
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
>>
>> Craig Calfee makes some of the most gorgeous bikes on the planet (I'd
>> kill for a Luna Pista or Tandem).
>>
>> I like this one too.
>>
>> A pista version wouldn't get dirty enough to need cleaning.
>
> I wonder what its CdA is.
"The unique 'fork' of Brent Ruegamer's Blackbird concept is designed to
smooth the airflow coming off of the front wheel"..........and so
increase drag on the trailing part of the bicycle.
From a structural standpoint, the front wheel is now cantilevered via a
tortuous load path. Not the most efficient structurally and the front
end will be softer which will affect the handling.
Phil H
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 05:15:10
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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Phil Holman wrote:
> "Robert Chung" <me@address.invalid> wrote
>> I wonder what its CdA is.
>
> "The unique 'fork' of Brent Ruegamer's Blackbird concept
The bike I was wondering about was this one:
http://tinyurl.com/2gcfet
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:21:29
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Is It Legal?
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On Fri, 09 2007 08:07:48 GMT, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/shows/nahmbs07/?id=/photos/2007/tech/shows/nahmbs07/nahmbs075/Calfee_spider_bike_full_side_view
Bloody hell. How to clean it?
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E. Dronkert
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