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Date: 12 Jun 2007 02:22:18
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real race entails.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 18:44:38
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 13, 7:47 am, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > > A combination of sleep deprivation and alcohol could lead to even more > > severe hallucinations. Particularly if they use some of Curtis's 15% stuff > > which would probably give me hallucinations without sleep deprivation. > > ---------- > Alcohol is a banned substance in RAAM. It isn't a performance enhancing > drug, but a safety issue. Yeah, they're worried that if a RAAM rider relaxed with a nice cold drink, the rider might realize that RAAM is not only unsafe, but far less appealing than another drink. Waiter, I'll trade this slightly used bicycle for another whisky and soda - make it a double! Ben
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 12:04:09
From: DirtRoadie
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 13, 11:38 am, Geraard Spergen <GSper...@spammagnet.net > wrote: > DirtRoadie wrote: > > And RAAM is SUCH a great spectator sport too! I did, in fact, see two > > of the riders (#3 and 4) live today (I was live - I can't speak for > > the riders). > > Not a soul in sight to watch the event along the 20 miles or so of the > > course that I drove to locate the riders. It did NOT remind me of, > > say, the Tour de France, where the route is usually lined with > > thousands of spectators. > > I'm truly surprised that the master fatties aren't waiting by the side > of the road to hop on and draft these guys for a few kms - in fact that > could be a great sport in itself... spectator wise. They could even > sport their own neck cables. Actually I watched one of the RAAM riders catch and pass a non-RAAM rider who could certainly qualify as a "master fatty." It was on an uphill at an elevation of just under 8400 feet. I don't know whether the guy tried to latch on- neither one of them looked particularly spunky, but the RAAM guy (apparently Daniel Wyss) just kept pluggin' away. DR
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 21:32:17
From: DirtRoadie
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 11, 8:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. And RAAM is SUCH a great spectator sport too! I did, in fact, see two of the riders (#3 and 4) live today (I was live - I can't speak for the riders). Not a soul in sight to watch the event along the 20 miles or so of the course that I drove to locate the riders. It did NOT remind me of, say, the Tour de France, where the route is usually lined with thousands of spectators. Is the RAAM hard? Yes, probably. An accomplishment for the participants? Yes, that too. An interesting concept? Maybe. Greatest RACE in the world? Not even close. DR
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:38:37
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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DirtRoadie wrote: > And RAAM is SUCH a great spectator sport too! I did, in fact, see two > of the riders (#3 and 4) live today (I was live - I can't speak for > the riders). > Not a soul in sight to watch the event along the 20 miles or so of the > course that I drove to locate the riders. It did NOT remind me of, > say, the Tour de France, where the route is usually lined with > thousands of spectators. I'm truly surprised that the master fatties aren't waiting by the side of the road to hop on and draft these guys for a few kms - in fact that could be a great sport in itself... spectator wise. They could even sport their own neck cables.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 19:46:35
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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Geraard Spergen <GSpergen@spammagnet.net > writes: > DirtRoadie wrote: > >> And RAAM is SUCH a great spectator sport too! I did, in fact, see two >> of the riders (#3 and 4) live today (I was live - I can't speak for >> the riders). >> Not a soul in sight to watch the event along the 20 miles or so of the >> course that I drove to locate the riders. It did NOT remind me of, >> say, the Tour de France, where the route is usually lined with >> thousands of spectators. > > I'm truly surprised that the master fatties aren't waiting by the side > of the road to hop on and draft these guys for a few kms - in fact > that could be a great sport in itself... spectator wise. They could > even sport their own neck cables. [cite] HAIRSHIRT ALUMNAE IN RACE ACROSS AMERICA - Of interest to people who have ridden the Hairshirt in recent years is the news that former participants Larry Optis and Peter Oyler are both competing in the Solo Division. You can follow the race live, and find out what charities they are riding for at http://www.raceacrossamerica.org In total, seven Canadians are currently participating in various race categories. Worth a look! [cite] The "HairShirt" is Toronto-Niagara-Toronto - 325 miles give or take depending on raod repairs, etc -- Davey on the Road
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 19:29:41
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 12, 4:34 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:32:10 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Personally I think you have over estimated your ability to discern > >> exactly what a race is. If you, or the promoters of this farce wanted to > >> actually make it a race then they would limit it to 8 hours a day in the > >> saddle. Only then does it become a race and not a contest to see who can > >> survive the longest without sleep. > > >> Bill > >------------ > >The people who compete in RAAM, have real jobs. I get your point, but it > >would take a freakin' month to cross the country at that rate, and tons of > >money. Le Tour Ultime in France does the whole TDF in 8-10 days, not the > >month it takes TDF to cover that distance. Remember too, no drafting > >allowed in RAAM, and when you consider Lance drafted 90% of the distance of > >TDF, and it took him nearly a month to cover 2400 miles, it makes his > >exploits, less than incredible. They are much faster riders, in TDF, but > >it's no endurance event by any stretch. But like you, and others have said, > >it's apples and oranges. > > I'd argue that people with real jobs participate in RAAM, competing would > require an impossible training burden for someone with a real job. I cannot > imagine that anyone is worth much on any job for the three weeks following a > RAAM either. Dumbass - Next time I talk to a tweeker, I'll try to remember to ask them how long it takes them to recover from a week of sleeplessness. thanks, K. Gringioni. convinced that the FRed Across AMerica participants are all on meth during the race
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:18:48
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:29:41 -0700, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: >On Jun 12, 4:34 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:32:10 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Personally I think you have over estimated your ability to discern >> >> exactly what a race is. If you, or the promoters of this farce wanted to >> >> actually make it a race then they would limit it to 8 hours a day in the >> >> saddle. Only then does it become a race and not a contest to see who can >> >> survive the longest without sleep. >> >> >> Bill >> >------------ >> >The people who compete in RAAM, have real jobs. I get your point, but it >> >would take a freakin' month to cross the country at that rate, and tons of >> >money. Le Tour Ultime in France does the whole TDF in 8-10 days, not the >> >month it takes TDF to cover that distance. Remember too, no drafting >> >allowed in RAAM, and when you consider Lance drafted 90% of the distance of >> >TDF, and it took him nearly a month to cover 2400 miles, it makes his >> >exploits, less than incredible. They are much faster riders, in TDF, but >> >it's no endurance event by any stretch. But like you, and others have said, >> >it's apples and oranges. >> >> I'd argue that people with real jobs participate in RAAM, competing would >> require an impossible training burden for someone with a real job. I cannot >> imagine that anyone is worth much on any job for the three weeks following a >> RAAM either. > > > >Dumbass - > > >Next time I talk to a tweeker, I'll try to remember to ask them how >long it takes them to recover from a week of sleeplessness. About three weeks. >thanks, > >K. Gringioni. >convinced that the FRed Across AMerica participants are all on meth >during the race Know any bike racers who are extremely thin, with bad complexions and rotten teeth? Ron
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 17:45:09
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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In article <s1vv635elqqitf5tv1r9ggmi1s5gq7o067@4ax.com >, RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:29:41 -0700, Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >Next time I talk to a tweeker, I'll try to remember to ask them how > >long it takes them to recover from a week of sleeplessness. > > About three weeks. > > >thanks, > > > >K. Gringioni. > >convinced that the FRed Across AMerica participants are all on meth > >during the race > > Know any bike racers who are extremely thin, with bad complexions and rotten > teeth? I think you forgot the most telling sign (when combined with the above): a rotten disposition. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 04:11:42
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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In article <YOURhoward-D2D39C.17450913062007@comcast.dca.giganews.com >, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote: > In article <s1vv635elqqitf5tv1r9ggmi1s5gq7o067@4ax.com>, > RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:29:41 -0700, Kurgan Gringioni > > <kgringioni@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >Next time I talk to a tweeker, I'll try to remember to ask them how > > >long it takes them to recover from a week of sleeplessness. > > > > About three weeks. > > > > >thanks, > > > > > >K. Gringioni. > > >convinced that the FRed Across AMerica participants are all on meth > > >during the race > > > > Know any bike racers who are extremely thin, with bad complexions and > > rotten > > teeth? > > I think you forgot the most telling sign (when combined with the above): a > rotten > disposition. My guess is, "half the pro peloton." The other half have fine complexions and lovely teeth, -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 14:47:26
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 12, 10:32 am, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > The people who compete in RAAM, have real jobs. I get your point, but it > would take a freakin' month to cross the country at that rate, and tons of > money. yeah but if they can only ride 8 hrs per day ... they have the rest of the day to work.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 13:02:45
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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Callistus Valerius wrote: > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. > > Personally I think you have over estimated your ability to discern exactly what a race is. If you, or the promoters of this farce wanted to actually make it a race then they would limit it to 8 hours a day in the saddle. Only then does it become a race and not a contest to see who can survive the longest without sleep. Bill
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 14:32:10
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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> > Personally I think you have over estimated your ability to discern > exactly what a race is. If you, or the promoters of this farce wanted to > actually make it a race then they would limit it to 8 hours a day in the > saddle. Only then does it become a race and not a contest to see who can > survive the longest without sleep. > > > Bill ------------ The people who compete in RAAM, have real jobs. I get your point, but it would take a freakin' month to cross the country at that rate, and tons of money. Le Tour Ultime in France does the whole TDF in 8-10 days, not the month it takes TDF to cover that distance. Remember too, no drafting allowed in RAAM, and when you consider Lance drafted 90% of the distance of TDF, and it took him nearly a month to cover 2400 miles, it makes his exploits, less than incredible. They are much faster riders, in TDF, but it's no endurance event by any stretch. But like you, and others have said, it's apples and oranges.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 19:34:04
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:32:10 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote: >> >> Personally I think you have over estimated your ability to discern >> exactly what a race is. If you, or the promoters of this farce wanted to >> actually make it a race then they would limit it to 8 hours a day in the >> saddle. Only then does it become a race and not a contest to see who can >> survive the longest without sleep. >> >> >> Bill >------------ >The people who compete in RAAM, have real jobs. I get your point, but it >would take a freakin' month to cross the country at that rate, and tons of >money. Le Tour Ultime in France does the whole TDF in 8-10 days, not the >month it takes TDF to cover that distance. Remember too, no drafting >allowed in RAAM, and when you consider Lance drafted 90% of the distance of >TDF, and it took him nearly a month to cover 2400 miles, it makes his >exploits, less than incredible. They are much faster riders, in TDF, but >it's no endurance event by any stretch. But like you, and others have said, >it's apples and oranges. I'd argue that people with real jobs participate in RAAM, competing would require an impossible training burden for someone with a real job. I cannot imagine that anyone is worth much on any job for the three weeks following a RAAM either. Ron
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 20:58:25
From: Frank Drackman
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:urnbi.16044$296.14392@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the > day. > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits > that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the > abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. > > You need better bait...
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 20:52:39
From: Colin Campbell
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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Callistus Valerius wrote: > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. > > RAAM has always been an incredible concept, and the athletes who compete are incredible, too. But it is basically impossible to follow the race, so we just wait for the results to be posted, and the one hour summary weeks later on some network with no golf tournament that Sunday.
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Date: 11 Jun 2007 19:59:31
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 11, 7:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. Dumbass - troll rating: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ^ thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 03:07:04
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1181617171.579022.120860@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 11, 7:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times >> and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the >> day. >> I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits >> that >> think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the >> abilities >> of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a >> real >> race entails. > > Dumbass - > > troll rating: > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > ^ You overrate just about everything don't you?
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 02:28:04
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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On Jun 11, 10:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > race entails. wake us up when they get to the place where they attach the contraption that holds the rider's head up.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 09:16:31
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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<derFahrer@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1181615284.232559.318500@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 11, 10:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times >> and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the >> day. >> I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits >> that >> think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the >> abilities >> of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a >> real >> race entails. > > wake us up when they get to the place where they attach the > contraption that holds the rider's head up. > I think someone needs to learn that bike racing is a competition and whether or not it becomes an 'ass kicker' is not really the point. If the point is to get your ass kicked, simply drive down to San Angelo, Texas, walk into a bar and make fun of their accents. Its quicker from almost anywhere in the U.S. than RAAM, even if you ride a bike down there. If you haven't had enough after the first round, just shout something like, "You faggots think that's fighting?" or "Lone Star tastes like piss!" from the floor. OTOH, none of that is really what I would call competition. Its just getting your ass kicked. There is a difference. -- Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 02:53:05
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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<derFahrer@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1181615284.232559.318500@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 11, 10:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few times > > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the day. > > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits that > > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the abilities > > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a real > > race entails. > > wake us up when they get to the place where they attach the > contraption that holds the rider's head up. --------- You have a legitimate point. I think if anyone get's Shermer's neck, it should be a DNF. Those kind of things are a hangover from Rando, where in Rando it doesn't matter how you finish. But they're tightening up the rules there too, especially with safety equipment on night riding. You use to able to do RAAM without a following vehicle, until someone got killed. So I agree, the people with Shermer's neck should be DNF'd for safety reasons alone. And for the rbr folk that seem obsessed with it.
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 06:32:30
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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In article <lUnbi.3380$tb6.1099@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote: > <derFahrer@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1181615284.232559.318500@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > > On Jun 11, 10:22 pm, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > rec.bicycles.racing -- nope it's really race around the block a few > times > > > and then go home and try to figure out what to do with the rest of the > day. > > > I'm not going to post about the greatest race in the world, to nitwits > that > > > think an 80 mile race is an ass kicker. Maybe I overestimated the > abilities > > > of people in rbr, maybe they haven't earned an appreciation of what a > real > > > race entails. > > > > wake us up when they get to the place where they attach the > > contraption that holds the rider's head up. > --------- > You have a legitimate point. I think if anyone get's Shermer's neck, it > should be a DNF. Those kind of things are a hangover from Rando, where in > Rando it doesn't matter how you finish. But they're tightening up the rules > there too, especially with safety equipment on night riding. You use to > able to do RAAM without a following vehicle, until someone got killed. So I > agree, the people with Shermer's neck should be DNF'd for safety reasons > alone. And for the rbr folk that seem obsessed with it. Screw DQs for Shermer's neck. Screw that wimpy "you get to rest" solo class, too! Get back to me when the rule is no penalties, and no time limits! -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 12 Jun 2007 10:00:28
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > Get back to me when the rule is no penalties, and no time limits! Get back to me when they have some naked hot chicks for podium girls.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 01:29:19
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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In article <466e53a1$0$14781$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > Get back to me when the rule is no penalties, and no time limits! > > Get back to me when they have some naked hot chicks for podium girls. And beer primes! Definitely beer primes. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:01:12
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> > Get back to me when the rule is no penalties, and no time limits! Donald Munro wrote: >> Get back to me when they have some naked hot chicks for podium girls. Ryan Cousineau wrote: > And beer primes! Definitely beer primes. A combination of sleep deprivation and alcohol could lead to even more severe hallucinations. Particularly if they use some of Curtis's 15% stuff which would probably give me hallucinations without sleep deprivation.
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 14:47:01
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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> > A combination of sleep deprivation and alcohol could lead to even more > severe hallucinations. Particularly if they use some of Curtis's 15% stuff > which would probably give me hallucinations without sleep deprivation. ---------- Alcohol is a banned substance in RAAM. It isn't a performance enhancing drug, but a safety issue.
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Date: 14 Jun 2007 03:59:55
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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In article <FrTbi.61$W_6.59@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote: > > > > A combination of sleep deprivation and alcohol could lead to even more > > severe hallucinations. Particularly if they use some of Curtis's 15% stuff > > which would probably give me hallucinations without sleep deprivation. > ---------- > Alcohol is a banned substance in RAAM. It isn't a performance enhancing > drug, but a safety issue. Your event sucks! -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 08:36:46
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Is RAAM above the heads of rbr?
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"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:466fa555$0$14799$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com... > Ryan Cousineau wrote: >>> > Get back to me when the rule is no penalties, and no time limits! > > Donald Munro wrote: >>> Get back to me when they have some naked hot chicks for podium girls. > > Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> And beer primes! Definitely beer primes. > > A combination of sleep deprivation and alcohol could lead to even more > severe hallucinations. Particularly if they use some of Curtis's 15% stuff > which would probably give me hallucinations without sleep deprivation. > I've found that 15% ale and sleep deprivation are mutually exclusive. OTOH, with two bottles, you can drink, then sleep, and still wake up early enough to have hallucinations. -- Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
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