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Date: 30 Aug 2007 13:30:39
From: MMan
Subject: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
"Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
the next month."
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 23:33:50
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Sep 1, 7:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <1188625138.451364.123...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> Kurgan Gringioni <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > On Aug 31, 9:04 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> > > >> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> > > >> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed
> > > >> fast
> > > >> too.
>
> > > > It is hard to believe that about TK.
>
> > > What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
> > > man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
>
> > LOL!
>
> Suppose he had reproduced - can you imagine the therapy bills the kid would have?
Dumbass -
What about the woman? She'd have to attempt to live with the idea that
TK had implanted his seed inside her.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 06:44:47
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1188714830.343046.21040@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
> What about the woman? She'd have to attempt to live with the idea that
> TK had implanted his seed inside her.
Imagine a queer talking about something like that?
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 19:58:29
From:
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 31, 10:28 am, MMan <mman...@cs.com > wrote:
> On Aug 31, 10:05 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > The point, to anyone that had a brain larger than a flea, was that she =
was
> > hugely faster than anyone else when she was 17 and I don't think she was
> > taking any drugs then.
>
> That remains to be seen. According to the story:
>
> "There are rumours that she will also discuss how doping was
> incorporated into her program while she was still a Junior"
>
> Remember Aubut coached her since she was 13.
>
> Still, I'll be interested to see what she actually has to say. I'm
> guessing more about Aubut's overall behavior than about doping.
Everyone is guilty--or not? A lot of these drug tests are not that
reliable.
GENEVI=C8VE JEANSON ACCEPTS OFFER TO SETTLE FROM THE USADAExpert's
report concludes that Jeanson produces "false positives"
Montreal, November 28, 2006 - Canadian cyclist and U.S. resident
Genevi=E8ve Jeanson has announced that she has accepted an offer to
settle from the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) related to a
urine sample taken July 25, 2005, which tested positive for
erythropoietin (EPO).
After initially seeking a life suspension, USADA offered Ms. Jeanson a
reduction of her ineligibility period to two years beginning July 25,
2005 and ending next July 25.
The agreement stipulates that neither party is changing its respective
position. It says explicitly that the agreement does not constitute an
admission to the use of EPO by Ms. Jeanson. The purpose of the
agreement is "to take into account all of the circumstances of the
matter and to avoid the mutual burden of going forward with the AAA/
CAS hearing." The full text of the agreement may be found at
http://veloptimum.net/GenevieveJeanson.html.
"After careful consideration, I've decided to accept USADA's offer,"
explained Ms. Jeanson. "The proposed agreement satisfies my two main
concerns:
First of all, it is clearly indicated that the agreement does not
mean that I admit to having used EPO, which is a crucial point for me.
Second, I will finally be finished with this dispute, which has been
taking far too much space in my life, draining all my energy for many
months. I've learned the hard way the meaning of the proverb - 'a bad
agreement is better than a good lawsuit'. If I go into arbitration,
win or lose, I shudder at the mere thought of the possible appeals.
USADA's offer allows me to get on with my life."
"I have never in my entire career taken EPO, or any other banned
substance," repeated Ms. Jeanson. "After the USADA informed me that I
had tested positive in July 2005, I did some research to figure out
how this could have happened. I secured the help of a reputable
professor and researcher at Ghent University in Belgium, Dr. Joris
Delanghe. I am very grateful that he graciously offered to investigate
my case."
False-positive samples
Dr. Delanghe's work has already shown that some athletes produce urine
samples that generate false positives to EPO when the samples are
collected after strenuous exercise - as was the case with Ms.
Jeanson's urine sample on July 25, 2005. She provided the urine sample
just after completing the very challenging prologue to the
International Tour de Toona at an average speed of more than 40 km/h.
Dr. Delanghe's research has already exonerated Belgian triathlete
Rutger Beke by demonstrating that he produced false positives.
Dr. Delanghe analyzed the circumstances around the collection and
analysis of the sample on July 25, 2005. He also took urine samples
from Ms. Jeanson after strenuous exercise and subjected them to the
appropriate tests.
Dr. Delanghe produced an expert report, which was submitted to the
USADA in the course of the preparation for the AAA/CAS hearing.
Dr. Delanghe came to the four following conclusions:
The pre-analysis quality of the sample collected on July 25, 2005
was not sufficient to obtain a reliable analysis result.
In the case of severe exercised-induced proteinuria (like in
Jeanson's case), there is a serious concern about the validity of the
EPO test.
The negative results of a sample taken three days later [note: by
the World Anti-Doping Agency] question the positivity of the July 25
sample.
A detailed analysis of the pherogram suggests the presence of EPO-
like proteins in Ms. Jeanson's urine.
The report further states, "Genevieve Jeanson produces specific
urinary proteins which are cross reacting with monoclonal antibody
AE7A5 as used in the epo test by UCLA."
(The summary can be found at http://veloptimum.net/GenevieveJeanson.html)
"I know that I'll never be able to convince everyone of my innocence,"
Ms. Jeanson said. "Innocence cannot be proven. But Dr. Delanghe's work
has shed light on the probable causes of the incident on July 25. I
want to thank him for his interest in my case, as I would like to
thank everyone who helped and supported me during this difficult
period of my life."
When asked about whether she will return to competition, Ms. Jeanson
replied, "I'm 25 and I still have a lot of good years ahead of me. But
accepting the USADA's offer was a difficult decision. Other decisions
will wait."
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 06:41:08
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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<rjk3@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:1188701909.397392.319920@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 31, 10:28 am, MMan <mman...@cs.com > wrote:
"I have never in my entire career taken EPO, or any other banned
substance," repeated Ms. Jeanson.
Well obviously she is lying because the experts here say that she has to be.
" The negative results of a sample taken three days later [note: by
the World Anti-Doping Agency] question the positivity of the July 25
sample."
Again none of this matters to the local experts. What matters is that they
can impune someone's reputation. That's a great deal more important to
people than the truth.
"I know that I'll never be able to convince everyone of my innocence,"
Ms. Jeanson said. "Innocence cannot be proven."
Well, at least she understands RBR fully.
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 11:42:00
From: lewdvig
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 30, 2:30 pm, MMan <mman...@cs.com > wrote:
> http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>
> "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
> world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
> holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
> the next month."
She should just do her Playboy/Penthouse/Hustler spread and then go
away. The only thing left to know about her is what she looks like
naked (and maybe that isn't all that interesting either).
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 22:38:58
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 31, 9:04 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> >> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> >> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> >> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed fast
> >> too.
>
> > It is hard to believe that about TK.
>
> What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
> man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
LOL!
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 19:44:36
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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In article <1188625138.451364.123840@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com >,
Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 31, 9:04 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> > >> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> > >> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed
> > >> fast
> > >> too.
> >
> > > It is hard to believe that about TK.
> >
> > What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
> > man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
>
>
>
> LOL!
Suppose he had reproduced - can you imagine the therapy bills the kid would have?
--
tanx,
Howard
Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 23:35:56
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-583095.19443601092007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <1188625138.451364.123840@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 31, 9:04 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other
>> > >> category.
>> > >> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that
>> > >> Jennie
>> > >> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have
>> > >> climbed
>> > >> fast
>> > >> too.
>> >
>> > > It is hard to believe that about TK.
>> >
>> > What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
>> > man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL!
>
> Suppose he had reproduced - can you imagine the therapy bills the kid
> would have?
>
Can you imagine the therapy bills Nusbaum's kid would have?
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 08:00:55
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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In article <R4rCi.295847$LE1.153838@newsfe13.lga >,
"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net > wrote:
> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:YOURhoward-583095.19443601092007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <1188625138.451364.123840@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
> > Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 31, 9:04 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other
> >> > >> category. However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that
> >> > >> Jennie used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have
> >> > >> climbed fast too.
> >> >
> >> > > It is hard to believe that about TK.
> >> >
> >> > What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
> >> > man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >
> > Suppose he had reproduced - can you imagine the therapy bills the kid
> > would have?
>
> Can you imagine the therapy bills Nusbaum's kid would have?
Oy... Between the two of 'em, the money spent would be bigger than the GDP of a
North African nation or two.
--
tanx,
Howard
Fabergé eggs are elegant but I prefer Fabergé bacon.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 20:19:30
From: Charles
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 30, 4:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "MMan" <mman...@cs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1188505839.892336.318160@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>
> > "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
> > world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
> > holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
> > the next month."
>
> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed fast
> too.
It is hard to believe that about TK.
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 06:04:32
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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Charles wrote:
> On Aug 30, 4:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> "MMan" <mman...@cs.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1188505839.892336.318160@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>>> "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
>>> world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
>>> holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
>>> the next month."
>> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
>> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
>> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed fast
>> too.
>
> It is hard to believe that about TK.
>
What, that he has daughters? He doesn't, they're step-daughters, from a
man who successfully procreated. Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 06:45:53
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:5js6mhFn6reU1@mid.individual.net...
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> Thankfully, Tom is not that man.
This from a person who has an unlisted address?
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 15:19:12
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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I saw the cover art! it's " Genevieve Jeanson: MY LIFE AS A HEROIN
ADDICT"
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 07:28:37
From: MMan
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 31, 10:05 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> The point, to anyone that had a brain larger than a flea, was that she was
> hugely faster than anyone else when she was 17 and I don't think she was
> taking any drugs then.
That remains to be seen. According to the story:
"There are rumours that she will also discuss how doping was
incorporated into her program while she was still a Junior"
Remember Aubut coached her since she was 13.
Still, I'll be interested to see what she actually has to say. I'm
guessing more about Aubut's overall behavior than about doping.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 19:16:45
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 30, 9:00 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> this is comedy.
>
> how is it that you manage to steer every thread so that it relates to
> YOU ?
Look at it this way-- if it wasn't about TK, it wouldn't be as funny!
Respectfully, D-y
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 19:00:44
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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On Aug 30, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "MMan" <mman...@cs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1188505839.892336.318160@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>
> > "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
> > world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
> > holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
> > the next month."
>
> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed fast
> too.
dumbass,
this is comedy.
how is it that you manage to steer every thread so that it relates to
YOU ?
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 07:05:40
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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<amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1188525644.712427.35470@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 30, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> how is it that you manage to steer every thread so that it relates to
> YOU ?
I know you have a difficult time with your hard life what with no human
beings being able to relate to you and only chimps being related but
nevertheless you should really take that poison that your mother gave you.
The point, to anyone that had a brain larger than a flea, was that she was
hugely faster than anyone else when she was 17 and I don't think she was
taking any drugs then.
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 16:35:56
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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"MMan" <mman37x@cs.com > wrote in message
news:1188505839.892336.318160@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>
> "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
> world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
> holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
> the next month."
My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed fast
too.
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 14:18:15
From: Frank Drackman
Subject: Re: Jeanson - Merde to hit the fan?
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message
news:13del31mgpoamc2@corp.supernews.com...
> "MMan" <mman37x@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:1188505839.892336.318160@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.canadiancyclist.com/dailynews/August/8.28.076.00PM43.shtml
>>
>> "Canadian Cyclist has learned through at least two sources that former
>> world champion Genevieve Jeanson is likely to provide a long and no-
>> holds-barred interview with Radio Canada television to air sometime in
>> the next month."
>
> My daughters raced against her and she was in a whole other category.
> However, so was Jennie Reed on flat ground and I don't think that Jennie
> used anything other than too much food.....otherwise she'd have climbed
> fast too.
>
>
Forrest Kunich strikes again!
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