bicycle-forum.net
Promoting biking discussion.

Main
Date: 15 May 2007 11:04:04
From:
Subject: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
So why is Joe Papp taking the stand? Is he suppose to be a generic
witness of cycling or does he have some relationship to Floyd or
subject matter expert?


http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12253.0.html

Young went on to point out that testing revealed a T/E ratio of 11-
to-1, which was way "outside the normal range." Then he gave a hint of
things to come, laying out a witness list that included former pro
cyclist Joe Papp, who will show how and why "he used testosterone
throughout his career and what it did for him."



RVD





 
Date: 16 May 2007 05:59:56
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
Michael Press wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more personal
> > recollections in lue of scientific research.
> >
> > "Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."
>
> lieu

Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.

R



  
Date: 17 May 2007 08:33:22
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
RicodJour wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>> If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more personal
>>> recollections in lue of scientific research.
>>>
>>> "Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."
>> lieu
>
> Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.

Make sure you wash your hands properly first.


   
Date: 17 May 2007 08:53:57
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:33:22 +1200, Stu Fleming <stewart@wic.co.nz >
wrote:

>>> lieu
>>
>> Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.
>
>Make sure you wash your hands properly first.

Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


    
Date: 17 May 2007 20:27:20
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
In article <dfno439a44e792mo6015o2rf2rm91542ag@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:33:22 +1200, Stu Fleming <stewart@wic.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >>> lieu
> >>
> >> Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.
> >
> >Make sure you wash your hands properly first.
>
> Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
> really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...

You know the definition of a chemist?

--
Michael Press


     
Date: 17 May 2007 16:32:21
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:27:20 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:

>> Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
>> really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...
>
>You know the definition of a chemist?

Uh, no. Does it include 'persnickety', elbows or both?

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


      
Date: 18 May 2007 00:22:32
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
In article <haip4351363qol4lf1vigvnsu06quq5v50@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:27:20 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
> >> really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...
> >
> >You know the definition of a chemist?
>
> Uh, no. Does it include 'persnickety', elbows or both?

A man who washes before relieving himself.

--
Michael Press


    
Date: 17 May 2007 15:27:05
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:33:22 +1200, Stu Fleming <stewart@wic.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>>>> lieu
>>>
>>> Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.
>>
>>Make sure you wash your hands properly first.
>
> Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
> really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...
>

Machinists and synthetic chemists wash their hands before they go to the
bathroom.

--
Bill Asher


     
Date: 17 May 2007 16:56:24
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
In article <Xns993355B9193C1FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >, William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:33:22 +1200, Stu Fleming <stewart@wic.co.nz>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>> lieu
> >>>
> >>> Yes, Michael, you can go. And you don't have to ask.
> >>
> >>Make sure you wash your hands properly first.
> >
> > Washing afterwards would probably make more sense, unless you are
> > really persnickety. Then use your elbows to open the doors to leave...
> >
>
> Machinists and synthetic chemists wash their hands before they go to the
> bathroom.

It's true, you boys...

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


     
Date: 17 May 2007 23:04:32
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
William Asher wrote:
> Machinists and synthetic chemists wash their hands before they go to the
> bathroom.

As the official podium girl breast implant checker I need to find out what
the WADA protocol on this matter is.



      
Date: 17 May 2007 22:29:40
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
Donald Munro wrote:

> William Asher wrote:
>> Machinists and synthetic chemists wash their hands before they go to
>> the bathroom.
>
> As the official podium girl breast implant checker I need to find out
> what the WADA protocol on this matter is.
>
>

It's: "If you shake it more than three times you're playing with it, unless
you're a lab tech, then you're following protocol if you give mine a shake
too." They don't call it WADA for nothing.

--
Bill Asher


 
Date: 15 May 2007 17:51:27
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On May 15, 2:04 pm, es_painkil...@hotmail.com wrote:
> So why is Joe Papp taking the stand? Is he suppose to be a generic
> witness of cycling or does he have some relationship to Floyd or
> subject matter expert?

Or ... or ... maybe we're seeing the 1st (?) case where someone didn't
dope but wants to cash in on the 'true confession' angle ... being in
the spotlight and all.

So, 'Duped', are you going to ask him to give back the cash he won at
Superweek?



  
Date: 16 May 2007 08:11:31
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On 15 May 2007 17:51:27 -0700, "derFahrer@gmail.com"
<derFahrer@gmail.com > wrote:

>
>Or ... or ... maybe we're seeing the 1st (?) case where someone didn't
>dope but wants to cash in on the 'true confession' angle ... being in
>the spotlight and all.

Or, being surrounded by dopers, he is exhibiting some weird variation
of the Stockholm Syndrome.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


 
Date: 15 May 2007 12:22:21
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On May 15, 2:04 pm, es_painkil...@hotmail.com wrote:
> So why is Joe Papp taking the stand? Is he suppose to be a generic
> witness of cycling or does he have some relationship to Floyd or
> subject matter expert?

perhaps ... he's getting paid to be a witness and needs the money to
help find his wife? (http://www.joepapp.com/)

or ... maybe he's just trying to generate traffic for his web site.
self-promotion doesn't stop when you quit racing I guess.





 
Date: 15 May 2007 18:36:47
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
Why Papp when they could ask Stuart Stevens?
http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html


  
Date: 16 May 2007 00:12:58
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > wrote in message
news:35n2i.20750$YL5.16971@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> Why Papp when they could ask Stuart Stevens?
> http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html

If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more personal
recollections in lue of scientific research.

"Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."





   
Date: 16 May 2007 00:07:29
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
In article
<e0s2i.11205$j63.8686@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:

> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
> news:35n2i.20750$YL5.16971@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> > Why Papp when they could ask Stuart Stevens?
> > http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html
>
> If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more personal
> recollections in lue of scientific research.
>
> "Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."

lieu

--
Michael Press


    
Date: 16 May 2007 05:26:52
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
On Wed, 16 May 2007 00:07:29 -0700, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:

>In article
><e0s2i.11205$j63.8686@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>> news:35n2i.20750$YL5.16971@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>> > Why Papp when they could ask Stuart Stevens?
>> > http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html
>>
>> If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more personal
>> recollections in lue of scientific research.
>>
>> "Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."
>
>lieu

And counsel.
--
JT
****************************
Remove "remove" to reply
Visit http://www.jt10000.com
****************************


    
Date: 16 May 2007 09:17:39
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Joe Papp and landis what gives??
Dans le message de
news:rubrum-099800.00072916052007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> In article
> <e0s2i.11205$j63.8686@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
>> news:35n2i.20750$YL5.16971@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Why Papp when they could ask Stuart Stevens?
>>> http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html
>>
>> If there's one thing that cycling doesn't need it's still more
>> personal recollections in lue of scientific research.
>>
>> "Yeah, Dude, it made me, like really, really fast."
>
> lieu

fishy