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Date: 24 Apr 2007 23:37:32
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Johann's non-answer answer
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Is Basso going to do the TdF or not? You can't be certain going by
what Bruyneel says here (and does he think Leipheimer is the guy for the
Tour? Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year, but
still...):
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/apr07/apr23news
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 07:49:07
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Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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On Apr 26, 12:24 am, "hizar...@yahoo.com" <hizar...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Levi is a very good rider, but he doesn't strike me as Tour winner.
So you would have picked Pedro Delgato and Steven Roche huh? What
about Marco Pantani? Riis?
Levi has done very well without a team dedicated to his support. The
places he falls down is when he needs team support and has none. So it
isn't easy to say whether or not he'd a Tour winning possibility.
My guess is that the people he's riding against are no better than he
is.
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 11:25:40
From: Fred Pan
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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> Levi has done very well without a team dedicated to his support. The
> places he falls down is when he needs team support and has none. So it
> isn't easy to say whether or not he'd a Tour winning possibility.
>
> My guess is that the people he's riding against are no better than he
> is.
Levi may not have had a good team behind him in the past, but last year he
lost the TdF during the stage 7 time trial when he finished more than 6
minutes behind the winner, certainly that wasn't because of the lack of
support from his team.
Fred
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Date: 27 Apr 2007 00:06:39
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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"Fred Pan" <fpan@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:AvudnR8Gs8joWa3bnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> Levi has done very well without a team dedicated to his support. The
>> places he falls down is when he needs team support and has none. So it
>> isn't easy to say whether or not he'd a Tour winning possibility.
>>
>> My guess is that the people he's riding against are no better than he
>> is.
>
> Levi may not have had a good team behind him in the past, but last year he
> lost the TdF during the stage 7 time trial when he finished more than 6
> minutes behind the winner, certainly that wasn't because of the lack of
> support from his team.
Did you miss the fact that Floyd had a bad day as well? With a supportive
team dedicated to him it's hard to say what MIGHT have happened.
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 05:57:54
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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On Apr 25, 12:37 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> Is Basso going to do the TdF or not? You can't be certain going by
> what Bruyneel says here (and does he think Leipheimer is the guy for the
> Tour? Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year, but
> still...):
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/apr07/apr23news
He didn't in 2006 when the Operation Puerto investigation was just
starting. Now that it's in full swing, I doubt the TdF hinge necks
will allow anybody that 'may' sully their race start.
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Date: 25 Apr 2007 21:24:39
From: hizark21@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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Levi is a very good rider, but he doesn't strike me as Tour winner.
On Apr 25, 3:31 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
>
> Where ?
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 06:39:24
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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In article <1177561479.671323.206710@o40g2000prh.googlegroups.com >,
"hizark21@yahoo.com" <hizark21@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Levi is a very good rider, but he doesn't strike me as Tour winner.
>
> On Apr 25, 3:31 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
> >
> > Where ?
At this point, I suspect that the real race will begin and end with
getting to start the Tour.
As to Levi's chances in the Tour, I can only think it depends on who's
left by race day.
"Default": the two sweetest words in the English language,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 08:55:04
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:39:24 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
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>At this point, I suspect that the real race will begin and end with
>getting to start the Tour.
>
>As to Levi's chances in the Tour, I can only think it depends on who's
>left by race day.
I see a Survivor series here, but they need to start soon. Entire
teams are being wiped out and on occasion just for the wrong
jersey(s). If that isn't like collecting a group of twits together and
voting people out based on gossip (admittedly, my view from watching,
say, 5 minutes of the stuff and hearing the next day gossip from a
bunch of twits), what is?
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 06:15:09
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:39:24 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
>At this point, I suspect that the real race will begin and end with
>getting to start the Tour.
>
>As to Levi's chances in the Tour, I can only think it depends on who's
>left by race day.
>
>"Default": the two sweetest words in the English language,
All true.
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JT
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Date: 25 Apr 2007 10:31:03
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
Where ?
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Date: 26 Apr 2007 22:25:13
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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In article <462f1249$0$20124$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
>
> Where ?
Okay, that was a little bit of a troll. But he did win the Mountains
comp in Paris-Nice this year and the overall in the Tour of California.
He has typically had one bad day in the Tour ('05 being the exception)
and it has really not had much to do with lack of team support when he
was with Gerolsteiner, though the support was somewhat lacking when he
rode for Rabobank.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 25 Apr 2007 08:23:59
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
>> Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
>
> Where ?
Dumbass,
Copperopolis. If Levi wins this year everyone will do
their Tour prep in NorCal.
But I don't think he'll win. He skipped the grueling Pro
Masters races (where the fields are ass deep in national
and world masters fatty champions). That's the level of
competition he needs to really sharpen his form.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 25 Apr 2007 06:40:05
From: Casey Kerrigan
Subject: Re: Johann's non-answer answer
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In article <QDIXh.241$tp5.187@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net >, Bob Schwartz
<bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
> > Howard Kveck wrote:
> >> Does LL have a top five in him? He's ridden well this year,
> >
> > Where ?
>
> Dumbass,
>
> Copperopolis. If Levi wins this year everyone will do
> their Tour prep in NorCal.
>
> But I don't think he'll win. He skipped the grueling Pro
> Masters races (where the fields are ass deep in national
> and world masters fatty champions). That's the level of
> competition he needs to really sharpen his form.
>
Last year Levi won both the Copperopolis RR and the Wente RR in Nor Cal
and that didn't work out so god for him in the Tour. This year he only
tackled one of the demanding Nor Cal RRs so we will see how he does in
the Tour this year. :)
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