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Date: 06 Mar 2007 10:43:29
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On Jan 10 2005, 6:29 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclin...@yahoo.com > wrote: > "Bob Schwartz" <c...@shell.core.com> wrote in message > > news:10u31nhjksei654@corp.supernews.com... > > > > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> So, tell us the worst tsunami to ever hit the USA? While you're at it > >> perhaps you'd like to explain the source of tsunamis. Oh, and be detailed > >> on > >> it since I have studied vulcanology and Seismology a bit. > > >http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/tsu.shtml > > > An online database of both source events and runup data. > > > Hawaii and Alaska get hit a lot. California gets hit a lot > > too, although the effects tend to be minor. Any oceanic > >faultline is a source, in the US that mostly means Alaska. > > > A 1933 tsunami off the coast of Southern California killed > > three people in La Jolla. > > > A 1946 Aleutian tsunami killed 165 people total including > > 128 people in Hawaii and one person in Santa Cruz. > > > But of course, you already knew that. I'm posting this > > for the benefit of the unwashed masses that are less > > learned than yourself. > > > Bob Schwartz > > c...@execpc.com > > The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is because > the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater volcanoes > or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also the > coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the > focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. > > None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any > major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. <snip > Dumbasses - The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that they stuck in my memory. Kunich is an expert on vulcanology and seismology. heh heh. One of the numerous branches of science about which he is oh-so-knowledgable. A true polymath. Remember, none of the subduction zones are close to the USA. From: http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent By Robin Lloyd Special to LiveScience posted: 03 January 2005 07:21 pm ET There are only two places in the United States where colliding tectonic plates could cause a major tsunami, and new studies show a new earthquake in at least one of these locations could be imminent. The Cascadia subduction zone, a 680-mile fault that runs 50 miles off the coast of the Pacific Northwest -- from Cape Mendocino in California to Vancouver Island in southern British Columbia -- has experienced a cluster of four massive earthquakes during the past 1,600 years. Scientists are trying to figure out if it is about to undergo a massive shift one more time before entering a quiescent period. "People need to know it could happen," said U.S. Geological Survey geologist Brian Atwater. The historical record for this zone, which has the longest recorded data about its earthquakes of any major fault in the world, shows that earthquakes occur in clusters of up to five events, with an average time interval of 300 years between quakes, said Chris Goldfinger, a ine geologist at Oregon State University. Goldfinger and other scientists have been studying this subduction zone for many years. The two most recent quakes on this fault occurred in the year 1700 (a magnitude 9 event) and approximately the year 1500. It has now been 305 years since the last event. So is the Cascadia subduction zone finished for now or on the brink of event number five? "We know quite a bit about the periodicity of this fault zone and what to expect," he said. "But the key point we don't know is whether the current cluster of earthquake activity is over yet, or does it have another event left in it." At the Cascadia subduction zone, an oceanic tectonic plate called the Juan de Fuca is pulled and driven (subducted) beneath the continental North American plate, setting up conditions for undersea "megathrust" earthquakes. The Cascadia subduction zone occurs where the relatively thin Juan de Fuca plate moves eastward and under the westward-moving North American Plate. When that collision results in a rupture, massive earthquakes occur. The other active subduction zone capable of producing a major earthquake-tsunami sequence is in Alaska, the site of a giant earthquake and subsequent tsunami in 1964. Scientists say a rupture along the Cascadia fault would cause the sea floor to bounce 20 feet or more, setting off powerful ocean waves relatively close to shore. The first waves could hit coastal communities in 30 minutes or less -- too rapidly for the current warning systems to save lives. <snip ><end>
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 09:55:10
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 10, 4:54 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > There is absolutely no need for motorcycle helmet laws since these helmets > make no statistical difference in the numbers of fatalities. But since the > masses perceive motorcyclists as anti-social they find a special joy in > demanding obeisance from these minorities. Bravo, Tom Kunich. Nutshell. Austin is going to have a MHL for cyclists again. The fix is in (including a phony, self-serving "study" at the local trauma hospital). > And slowly more and more minority > groups are generated - those who do not wear seat belts. Those who do not > wear bicycle helmets. Tell me - why is it that it is almost impossible to go > for a ride without a bicycle helmet without even other riders commenting on > it? Well, for one thing, it's rare to see someone without a helmet amongst "roadie" riders. But your point is valid. > The really sad thing is that people do not recognize one of the prime > driving mechanisms behind fascism - Organized Propaganda. > > The creation of social mythology that venerates (creates saints of) one > element of society while concurrently vilifying (dehumanizing) another > element of the population through misinformation, misdirection and the > obscuring of factual matter through removal, destruction or social > humiliation, (name-calling, false accusations, belittling and threats). And > the squelching of public debate not agreeing with the popular agenda via > slander, libel, threats, theft, destruction, historical revisionism and > social humiliation. Journalists in particular are terrorized if they > attempt to publish stories contrary to the agenda. You mean like with the "war" (invasion of) Iraq? Leave the shades up and the windows open, TK. You were doing great there. We love you, don't forget. --D-y
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 18:21:22
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 5:46 am, "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote: > I actually voted for this pinhead the first time. He didn't quite > turn out to be what he claimed to be before the first election > either. The implication and counter to this is that you believe there is a way to vote well. "Kveck v. Kunich" does not cancel. http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/11/06/bryan-caplan/the-myth-of-the-rational-voter Democracy is a fool's game. The most basic problem is neither "rational ignorance" nor "irrationality." The problem is that sufficient number of voters will *never* have the resources available to make a truly informed vote. Frederic Bastiat was French, btw.
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 18:44:24
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Related to the above I got this mail today: Subject: States Using New Powers? Dear Jerry, Do you really believe that any of the states would use additional powers any more intelligently or kindly than the Feds? When they passed seat belt laws and motorcycle helmet laws that was proof positive that fascism was the rule and not the exception. Tom Kunich The point of Federalism and leaving such matters to the States is that some will go one way, some another. Some will have enormous inheritance taxes, some will have none. Some may even try self government if freed from Federal interference and "incentives". The more local such laws are, the better. This was the original scheme of the Framers, who were quite aware that government and bureaucracy tends to creep and grow and take over more and more of people's lives. The working of Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy sees to that. The point of localism is that there will be pockets of freedom, and those tend to show by example that there are alternatives to the Nanny State and bureaucratic control of people's lives. Incidentally, anyone who equates seat belts and motorcycle helmets and the other nuisances of the Nanny State with Fascism doesn't know much about Fascism; alas, much of our intellectual class, knowing no history that didn't come from the History Channel (if that much), seems to believe this sort of thing. Actually don't believe it: I doubt that Mr. Kunich actually equates requiring child seats in cars with concentration camps and "Everything for the State; nothing against the State" and other such Fascist ideals; but they act as if they believe it." http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/view456.html
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 22:54:56
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Stu Fleming" <stewart@wic.co.nz > wrote in message news:45f244d9$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz... > "Related to the above I got this mail today: You know Stu, since you live in a nanny-state you probably have missed the fact that nanny-state laws are fomented strictly to train their citizens that the State Knows Best. If the perception of its citizens was that motorcycle helmets or seatbelts were a safer way to go, the government wouldn't need laws that allow the police to arrest you. The difference between a fascist government and a government based on human rights is that one tells you what to do and the other tries to convince you. Now explain mandatory helmets laws for cyclists in New Zealand - was did it cost the citizens and what did it save them? The problem with people not recognizing fascism is that it was defined in the mold of Nazism or the Italian Fascism which spread over a few other countries and was founded on strong military patriotism and persecution of a religous or racial minority. The purpetrators of today's fascism know better than to do that. But that doesn't mean that their goals aren't the same - the control of the masses through fear of minorities. The approval of the masses for perceived punishments of these minorities by force of law. The NECESSITY for "leaders" to lead these masses. And the acts of these "leaders" to exploit the groundless fears of the masses for such control. There is absolutely no need for motorcycle helmet laws since these helmets make no statistical difference in the numbers of fatalities. But since the masses perceive motorcyclists as anti-social they find a special joy in demanding obeisance from these minorities. And slowly more and more minority groups are generated - those who do not wear seat belts. Those who do not wear bicycle helmets. Tell me - why is it that it is almost impossible to go for a ride without a bicycle helmet without even other riders commenting on it? The really sad thing is that people do not recognize one of the prime driving mechanisms behind fascism - Organized Propaganda. The creation of social mythology that venerates (creates saints of) one element of society while concurrently vilifying (dehumanizing) another element of the population through misinformation, misdirection and the obscuring of factual matter through removal, destruction or social humiliation, (name-calling, false accusations, belittling and threats). And the squelching of public debate not agreeing with the popular agenda via slander, libel, threats, theft, destruction, historical revisionism and social humiliation. Journalists in particular are terrorized if they attempt to publish stories contrary to the agenda. Consider the "threat" of global warming, the attack against the response to terrorism and the almost continuous cry that we are going to all die from a lack of energy.
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 22:52:52
From: howard kveck
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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In article <4HGIh.126105$_73.76625@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: >> The really sad thing is that people do not recognize one of the prime > driving mechanisms behind fascism - Organized Propaganda. > > The creation of social mythology that venerates (creates saints of) one > element of society while concurrently vilifying (dehumanizing) another > element of the population through misinformation, misdirection and the > obscuring of factual matter through removal, destruction or social > humiliation, (name-calling, false accusations, belittling and threats). And > the squelching of public debate not agreeing with the popular agenda via > slander, libel, threats, theft, destruction, historical revisionism and > social humiliation. Journalists in particular are terrorized if they > attempt to publish stories contrary to the agenda. You're correct on all of that. However, I'd say that your idea of who is a propagandizer is very different than mine. A quick sampling here: http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/03/fox_news_crazy_.html
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 12:04:26
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Stu Fleming wrote: >> "Related to the above I got this mail today: Tom Kunich wrote: > You know Stu, since you live in a nanny-state you probably have missed the > fact that nanny-state laws are fomented strictly to train their citizens > that the State Knows Best. So why don't they ban closet relationships with sheep ?
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:10:10
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 1:42 pm, ST <n...@no.com > wrote: > > Is that all you are going to do?? I can find shit on the internet all day > that shows Art Bell is a fuckin God! Goddamm, you're stupid - I've posted 3 things: 1) a post where Kunich claims to be an expert in seismology 2) a post where Kunich claims that a tsunami is impossible in the lower 48 States of our country 3) references to sites by the US and Canadian governments about the Cascadia Subduction Zone If you read those sites, you'd know that a subduction zone is a type of fault that causes tsunamis if the fault is in an oceanic region of the earth. Here's another one by the US Geologic Survey. I believe the USGS before I believe Kunich. The point of all this was to illustrate that everytime Kunich claims to be an expert on something, it probably means he doesn't know what he's talking about. BTW, I don't claim to be an expert on seismology. I do, however, believe expert references like people employed by the USGS. From: http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/tsunami/cascadia.html The Pacific Northwest is the site of the Cascadia subduction zone, where an oceanic tectonic plate (the Juan de Fuca plate) is being pulled and driven (i.e., subducted) beneath a continental plate (the North American plate). Earthquakes along the fault that is the contact between the two plates, termed the interplate thrust or megathrust, may generate significant local tsunamis in the Pacific Northwest. Except for the M=7.2 1992 Cape Mendocino earthquake at the southernmost part of the subduction zone, there have been no major earthquakes on the megathrust in historic time. Does this mean that the two plates are sliding past each other freely without generating earthquakes? This would make the Cascadia subduction zone unlike most other subduction zones around the world. Rather, geologic evidence is accumulating that the Cascadia subduction zone is poised between major earthquakes. Therefore, the possibility exists that local tsunamis may someday accompany a major earthquake along the Cascadia megathrust. <snip ><end>
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 17:11:43
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 5:54 pm, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote: > On 7, 2:31 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 7, 1:05 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> > > wrote: > > > > I learned to program on a TI-57:http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm > > > > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > > > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > > > serious about releasing the source, I could try > > > porting him. > > > > Ben > > > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > > > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST > > > I had one of these too. As they got older the keyboard would get a lot > > of switch-bounce errors which could really mess up your programs. My > > TI-57 could get pretty cranky but it wasn't a wingnut. > > Ours did too to some extent. Some time probably between > 5 and 10 years after we bought it, TI wrote to us and said > the keypads had this problem and if we sent it back > they would ship a replacement - even though it was long > out of warranty. The replacement does still work, years > later. Kunich is still running too, but he always gives > the same answer no matter what you type on the keypad. > > Ben I switched to HP because of the keyboard and battery life issues. I kept the HP for years until someone happened to tell me that you could sell them for $150 on eBay and that's what I did. Now I emulate an HP with a PalmOS program called RPN. Come to think of it, Stevie has a switch-bounce problem too........ Bret
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 16:54:55
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 2:31 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com > wrote: > On 7, 1:05 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> > wrote: > > > I learned to program on a TI-57: http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm > > > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > > serious about releasing the source, I could try > > porting him. > > > Ben > > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST > > I had one of these too. As they got older the keyboard would get a lot > of switch-bounce errors which could really mess up your programs. My > TI-57 could get pretty cranky but it wasn't a wingnut. Ours did too to some extent. Some time probably between 5 and 10 years after we bought it, TI wrote to us and said the keypads had this problem and if we sent it back they would ship a replacement - even though it was long out of warranty. The replacement does still work, years later. Kunich is still running too, but he always gives the same answer no matter what you type on the keypad. Ben
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 17:50:25
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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In article <1173315294.953705.308380@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com >, "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote: > On 7, 2:31 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 7, 1:05 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> > > wrote: > > > > > I learned to program on a TI-57: > > > http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm > > > > > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > > > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > > > serious about releasing the source, I could try > > > porting him. > > > > > Ben > > > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > > > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST > > > > I had one of these too. As they got older the keyboard would get a lot > > of switch-bounce errors which could really mess up your programs. My > > TI-57 could get pretty cranky but it wasn't a wingnut. > > Ours did too to some extent. Some time probably between > 5 and 10 years after we bought it, TI wrote to us and said > the keypads had this problem and if we sent it back > they would ship a replacement - even though it was long > out of warranty. The replacement does still work, years > later. It isn't a real programmable calculator, but I got one of these Rockwell RD64s back in '76. I still use the thing daily (the '6' key is sort of uncooperative now). http://www.vintage-technology.info/pages/calculators/rockwell/rockwell64rd.htm -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 20:06:28
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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In article <YOURhoward-3B29F7.17502407032007@comcast.dca.giganews. com >, Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote: > In article <1173315294.953705.308380@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, > "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote: > > > On 7, 2:31 pm, "Bret" <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 7, 1:05 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I learned to program on a TI-57: > > > > http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm > > > > > > > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > > > > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > > > > serious about releasing the source, I could try > > > > porting him. > > > > > > > Ben > > > > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > > > > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST > > > > > > I had one of these too. As they got older the keyboard would get a lot > > > of switch-bounce errors which could really mess up your programs. My > > > TI-57 could get pretty cranky but it wasn't a wingnut. > > > > Ours did too to some extent. Some time probably between > > 5 and 10 years after we bought it, TI wrote to us and said > > the keypads had this problem and if we sent it back > > they would ship a replacement - even though it was long > > out of warranty. The replacement does still work, years > > later. > > It isn't a real programmable calculator, but I got one of these Rockwell RD64s back > in '76. I still use the thing daily (the '6' key is sort of uncooperative now). > > http://www.vintage-technology.info/pages/calculators/rockwell/rockwell64rd.htm I had a Corvus RPN calculator. It was great. Used a Mostek chip set. Rectangular-polar conversion, `statistics function', inverse hyperbolic functions. Replaced with a HP41 when stolen. -- Michael Press
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 13:31:40
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 1:05 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote: > On 7, 12:39 am, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Bill C wrote: > > > On 6, 7:52 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> > > > wrote: > > >> Bill C wrote: > > >>> But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > > >>> of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > > >> Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond > > >> in an unthinking, mechanical way. > > > >> Bob Schwartz > > > > Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. > > > Bill C > > > I was thinking more like a Texas Instruments TI 5018. > > >http://www.epinions.com/pr-Texas_Instruments_TI_5018_Calculator > > I learned to program on a TI-57:http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm > > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > serious about releasing the source, I could try > porting him. > > Ben > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST I had one of these too. As they got older the keyboard would get a lot of switch-bounce errors which could really mess up your programs. My TI-57 could get pretty cranky but it wasn't a wingnut. Bret
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 09:21:21
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 6:44 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > > And well, gee, I suppose you can invent earthquakes all day long. Where's > that 9.0 that's been predicted for San Francisco for my whole life? From: http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent <snip > The Cascadia subduction zone, a 680-mile fault that runs 50 miles off the coast of the Pacific Northwest -- from Cape Mendocino in California to Vancouver Island in southern British Columbia -- has experienced a cluster of four massive earthquakes during the past 1,600 years. Scientists are trying to figure out if it is about to undergo a massive shift one more time before entering a quiescent period. "People need to know it could happen," said U.S. Geological Survey geologist Brian Atwater. The historical record for this zone, which has the longest recorded data about its earthquakes of any major fault in the world, shows that earthquakes occur in clusters of up to five events, with an average time interval of 300 years between quakes, said Chris Goldfinger, a ine geologist at Oregon State University. Goldfinger and other scientists have been studying this subduction zone for many years. <snip ><end>
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:42:36
From: ST
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 3/7/07 9:21 AM, in article 1173288081.624807.267850@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > On 7, 6:44 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> >> And well, gee, I suppose you can invent earthquakes all day long. Where's >> that 9.0 that's been predicted for San Francisco for my whole life? > > > > > From: > http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html > > > Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent > > <snip> > > The Cascadia subduction zone, a 680-mile fault that runs 50 miles off > the coast of the Pacific Northwest -- from Cape Mendocino in > California to Vancouver Island in southern British Columbia -- has > experienced a cluster of four massive earthquakes during the past > 1,600 years. Scientists are trying to figure out if it is about to > undergo a massive shift one more time before entering a quiescent > period. > > "People need to know it could happen," said U.S. Geological Survey > geologist Brian Atwater. > > The historical record for this zone, which has the longest recorded > data about its earthquakes of any major fault in the world, shows > that > earthquakes occur in clusters of up to five events, with an average > time interval of 300 years between quakes, said Chris Goldfinger, a > ine geologist at Oregon State University. Goldfinger and other > scientists have been studying this subduction zone for many years. > > > <snip><end> > Is that all you are going to do?? I can find shit on the internet all day that shows Art Bell is a fuckin God!
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:33:20
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1173288081.624807.267850@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > On 7, 6:44 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> >> And well, gee, I suppose you can invent earthquakes all day long. Where's >> that 9.0 that's been predicted for San Francisco for my whole life? > > From: > http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html > > > Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent Tell you what, since you're so sure of this how about betting me $1,000 at 10:1 odds that a tsunami generating earthquake occurs off of the Oregon coast in a manner that sends the tsunami TOWARDS the Oregon coast? I mean, you are sure of this aren't you? Else why shoot your skinny ass mouth off like you actually knew what you were talking about?
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 07:30:53
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 11:24 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: <snipped > > Sort of like your crying about the Walter Reed Hospital when the VA Hospital > system was taken apart and all of the retired guys were handed something > similar to Medicaid in the Clinton administration. Wow am I surprised you > missed that. Don't know Tom. I seem to remember having a lot to say since my wife was working through the military "Fit for Duty" eval process, and lots of rehab, before being discharged in 2001. That included evals both in Europe, and a trip back to Walter Reed for an eval and board hearing. Then there was the VA stuff afterward. Eventually she was declared 40% disabled. The process sucked then, before then when the guys from Somalia and Rhwanda were going through it, and now. I have been for years, and still am, helping out my Uncle who's a Korea DAV get things done through the VA system.That means at least monthly visits to the local VA hospital where my next door neighbor, who's Daughter I grew up with, retired from their personnel office a few years ago, and lots of trips down to West Haven, Ct. which is about 90 miles from here to deal with some specific problems for which they are the regional provider. Been going down there about once a month, or at least every few months for several years. I had opinions way back when. I have opinions now. I'm much more comfortable with the validity of my current opinions just because I'm dealing with the VA constantly now, and it's been over an extended period of time. It's really pretty amazing how I just might have kept up on the military stuff really closely with so much in the family. There are more retirees, active duty, and prior service too, along with lots of friends, and very possibly a couple of kids going in, in some form or fashion. Everyone makes mistakes and screwups, but overall Clinton really made very few major changes and basically continued policy set under Bush Sr. He didn't like the military, neither did Hillary, and Gore hates them, but they were st enough to realize they needed them, and that they didn't have the expertise needed to seriously alter them so they got advisors who had credentials to do it for them. I also didn't like the advisors and a bunch of shit they changed, but none of it was fundamental to function. Overall they did an OK, mostly hands off job. That's not what I was saying at the time, but given time to see the big picture, cool off, and re-evaluate rationally he didn't do anything structurally really bad, or good. I don't care if politcal ideologues like you can't handle that, but that seems to be the concensus most people came to eventually. Carter on the other hand was a complete and total fucking disaster to the military and the intel community, but I'm convinced that the damage this administration is doing, and has done is going to be massively worse in the long term in particular. It's no excuse, and it's gutless on their part, but I can see why the Republicans haven't killed him on all this stuff, and I'm amazed that the Democrats haven't, but they have led the demonization of the military for 40 years now and shit all over them so it's a tough sell to claim they care now. The last prominent national democrat who really was strong on the military, and supported them was JFK, since then it's been a dismal record at best. Hard to turn that around in a few years and get the people you abused so badly to believe it. To steal a phrase "I'm not altogether on anyones side, becausae noone is altogether on my side." This whole crop of current candidates is disappointing at best. I had high hopes for Obama, but the more I here from him and see of his record ,the more I question. He still has the highest potential to do good, and great things though, IMO. I'm negative as hell when I evaluate things, and tell everyone that, and really enjoy being wrong, because that means things went better than I expected. Bush and Co. have exceeded even my worst case scenarios and expectations by a huge gin though. Bill Clinton, on re-eval, as a politician, was a pleasant surprise. Hillary scares the hell out of me. She's as power mad as Al Haig was, ster than Rove and Cheney, and is totally amoral when it comes to getting what she wants, and I DONT want what she does. I'm admitting to another spot where I was wrong too. Way back when here, It was either talking to Howard, or Lafferty, when I was supporting the war based on the intel and the humanitarian situation. They were saying "He's lying his ass off to get what he wants." I said that I didn't hink he could possibly have skewed that much without it being totally out in public and would have to go with the the majority in supporting action against Iraq. I also expressed that I thought it would be done right, and with overwhelming force, then turned over to the UN. They said I was buying a shitload of lies, and he was lieing to create the war. I disagreed, defended Bush and Powell, but said that if they turned out to be right I'd help them hang the bastard. Bush and Co. fucked Powell over big time. Howard or Brian was right. I'm admitting it, and doing my best to live up to my end of the gentleman's agreement. I imagine your gonna have a field day with this but "Oh, well!". I can't believe I'm replying at all, let alone in depth. I keep seeing the "arguing on the internet" picture while I'm doing it, since with you it's NOT discussion which is too bad because I've seen shitloads of stuff to support some of your arguments with other people out there recently and would add them in for someone who wasn't such an asshole to everyone. Yes, I do currently have WAY too much time on my hands, and my most recent used book order hasn't come in. Have a great day! Bill Crowther
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 05:46:25
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 11:24 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:1173228305.171880.64720@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > On 6, 7:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> "ST" <n...@no.com> wrote in messagenews:C21340A1.20CD2F%no@no.com... > > >> > You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'...... > > >> I like the way that these guys pretend to know what they're talking about > >> and then if you confront them with citations they come back that I'm the > >> one > >> acting as a know-it-all. > > >> I suppose this is the sort of thing that we see in them with the racing > >> stuff as well. They're all experts on stuff they know nothing about. > > > But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > > of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > > Here's a clue for you - you're the horses asses who seem to believe that > your ideas are infallible. When confronted with a different opinion you > can't handle it. > Once again, totally wrong. I have no idea how many times I've admitted being wrong here, learned new things and re-evaluated my positions, but it's a lot since there are a lot of very well informed people here that bring new information to the discussion. I'm sure that you just might be the only one who doesn't remember me doing this, especially since I admitted again, to a monumental fuckup, here yesterday. From: "Bill C" <tritonri...@verizon.net > Date: 6 2007 03:31:53 -0800 Local: Tues, 6 2007 6:31 am Subject: Re: Hey Chung <snipped > I actually voted for this pinhead the first time. He didn't quite turn out to be what he claimed to be before the first election either. Bill C Anybody remember the last time Tom admitted being wrong on ANYTHING substantial? Bill C
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 00:05:01
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 7, 12:39 am, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com > wrote: > Bill C wrote: > > On 6, 7:52 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> > > wrote: > >> Bill C wrote: > >>> But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > >>> of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > >> Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond > >> in an unthinking, mechanical way. > > >> Bob Schwartz > > > Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. > > Bill C > > I was thinking more like a Texas Instruments TI 5018. > > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Texas_Instruments_TI_5018_Calculator I learned to program on a TI-57: http://www.datamath.org/Sci/MAJESTIC/TI-57.htm It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're serious about releasing the source, I could try porting him. Ben LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 11:49:19
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > It has 50 program steps, about as many as Kunich, > but is significantly more flexible. Bob, if you're > serious about releasing the source, I could try > porting him. > > Ben > LRN RCL 1 x^2 - 4 x RCL 0 x RCL 2 = SQRT STO 4 - RCL 1 > = / 2 / RCL 0 R/S RST I learned to program on my fathers programmable HP calculator (I forget the model number), so I submit that I could do an even better job of porting him given my early introduction to FORTH-like RPN. I wonder if Kunich could be programmed to land a lunar module; perhaps we could send him to the moon.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 23:09:39
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 4:00 pm, ST <n...@no.com > wrote: > We have had many earthquakes in our area, yes! How many have caused a > Tsunami?? Idiot - If you were only Fat it would be OK. But the fact that you are also stupid, makes you nearly insufferable. Here's what the US Geolocial Survey says about it. From: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1700_01_26.php Cascadia Subduction Zone 1700 01 26 Magnitude ~9 This earthquake, the largest known to have occurred in the "lower 48" United States, rocked Cascadia, a region 600 miles long that includes northern California, Oregon, Washington, and southern British Columbia. The earthquake set off a tsunami that not only struck Cascadia's Pacific coast, but also crossed the Pacific Ocean to Japan, where it damaged coastal villages. Written records of the damage in Japan pinpoint the earthquake to the evening of January 26, 1700. <snip ><end> and the Canadian government: From: http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/historic_eq/15-19th/1700/1700_e.php The M9 Cascadia Megathrust Earthquake of January 26, 1700 At 9PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific. The Cascadia fault is the boundary between two of the Earth's tectonic plates: the smaller offshore Juan de Fuca plate that is sliding under the much larger North American plate. The earthquake shaking collapsed houses of the Cowichan people on Vancouver Island and caused numerous landslides. The shaking was so violent that people could not stand and so prolonged that it made them sick. On the west coast of Vancouver Island, the tsunami completely destroyed the winter village of the Pachena Bay people with no survivors. These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake. The earthquake also left unmistakeable signatures in the geological record as the outer coastal regions subsided and drowned coastal shlands and forests that were subsequently covered with younger sediments. The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years. We now know that a similar offshore event will happen sometime in the future and that it represents a considerable hazard to those who live in southwest B.C. However, because the fault is offshore, it is not the greatest earthquake hazard faced by major west coast cities. In the interval between great earthquakes, the tectonic plates become stuck together, yet continue to move towards each other. This causes tremendous strain and deformation of the Earth's crust in the coastal region and causes ongoing earthquake activity. This is the situation that we are in now. Some onshore earthquakes can be quite large (there have been four magnitude 7+ earthquakes in the past 130 years in southwest B.C. and northern Washington State). Because these inland earthquakes can be much closer to our urban areas and occur more frequently, they represent the greatest earthquake hazard. An inland magnitude 6.9 earthquake in 1995 in a similar geological setting beneath Kobe, Japan caused in excess of $200 billion damage. <snip ><end>
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:36:55
From: ST
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 3/6/07 11:09 PM, in article 1173251379.767125.294290@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > On 6, 4:00 pm, ST <n...@no.com> wrote: > >> We have had many earthquakes in our area, yes! How many have caused a >> Tsunami?? > > > > Idiot - > > If you were only Fat it would be OK. But the fact that you are also > stupid, makes you nearly insufferable. > > Here's what the US Geolocial Survey says about it. > > > From: > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1700_01_26.php > > Cascadia Subduction Zone > 1700 01 26 > Magnitude ~9 > > This earthquake, the largest known to have occurred in the "lower 48" > United States, rocked Cascadia, a region 600 miles long that includes > northern California, Oregon, Washington, and southern British > Columbia. The earthquake set off a tsunami that not only struck > Cascadia's Pacific coast, but also crossed the Pacific Ocean to Japan, > where it damaged coastal villages. Written records of the damage in > Japan pinpoint the earthquake to the evening of January 26, 1700. > > <snip><end> > > and the Canadian government: > > From: > http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/historic_eq/15-19th/1700/1700_e.php > > The M9 Cascadia Megathrust Earthquake of January 26, 1700 > > > At 9PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes > occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia > thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver > Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing > tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific. > The Cascadia fault is the boundary between two of the Earth's tectonic > plates: the smaller offshore Juan de Fuca plate that is sliding under > the much larger North American plate. > > The earthquake shaking collapsed houses of the Cowichan people on > Vancouver Island and caused numerous landslides. The shaking was so > violent that people could not stand and so prolonged that it made them > sick. On the west coast of Vancouver Island, the tsunami completely > destroyed the winter village of the Pachena Bay people with no > survivors. These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the > First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the > Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It > is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time > keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size > and exact time of this great earthquake. > > The earthquake also left unmistakeable signatures in the geological > record as the outer coastal regions subsided and drowned coastal > shlands and forests that were subsequently covered with younger > sediments. The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological > record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but > has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. > Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred > in the last 6000 years. > > We now know that a similar offshore event will happen sometime in the > future and that it represents a considerable hazard to those who live > in southwest B.C. However, because the fault is offshore, it is not > the greatest earthquake hazard faced by major west coast cities. In > the interval between great earthquakes, the tectonic plates become > stuck together, yet continue to move towards each other. This causes > tremendous strain and deformation of the Earth's crust in the coastal > region and causes ongoing earthquake activity. This is the situation > that we are in now. Some onshore earthquakes can be quite large (there > have been four magnitude 7+ earthquakes in the past 130 years in > southwest B.C. and northern Washington State). Because these inland > earthquakes can be much closer to our urban areas and occur more > frequently, they represent the greatest earthquake hazard. An inland > magnitude 6.9 earthquake in 1995 in a similar geological setting > beneath Kobe, Japan caused in excess of $200 billion damage. > > <snip><end> > WHO CARES Assbag!! Damn! If it was anything more than a damn THEORY then YOU WOULD NOT BE LIVING HERE?? We can look at almost any mad-made or natural disaster in the last 300 years and say "Someone, somewhere predicted that!!" There are 10 times more predictions that never come to pass........
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 14:44:01
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1173251379.767125.294290@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > On 6, 4:00 pm, ST <n...@no.com> wrote: > >> We have had many earthquakes in our area, yes! How many have caused a >> Tsunami?? > > If you were only Fat it would be OK. But the fact that you are also > stupid, makes you nearly insufferable. And well, gee, I suppose you can invent earthquakes all day long. Where's that 9.0 that's been predicted for San Francisco for my whole life?
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 23:07:09
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 3:24 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1173219521.886301.230570@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> >> > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is > >> >> because > >> >> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater > >> >> volcanoes > >> >> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also > >> >> the > >> >> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the > >> >> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. > > >> >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of > >> >> any > >> >> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. > > >> > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > >> > they stuck in my memory. > > >> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United > >> States. > > > The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington > > and Oregon. lol! moron. > > I realize that you're really attempting to look st but you aren't built > for it. If you were bright enough to understand how subduction zones > generate earthquakes you'd understand that the continental plate is on the > "safe" side. Idiot - There is nothing safe about a magnitude 9.0 quake. Here's what the US Geological Survey says about it - the geological evidence indicates both a 9.0 event and a tsunami. From: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1700_01_26.php Cascadia Subduction Zone 1700 01 26 Magnitude ~9 This earthquake, the largest known to have occurred in the "lower 48" United States, rocked Cascadia, a region 600 miles long that includes northern California, Oregon, Washington, and southern British Columbia. The earthquake set off a tsunami that not only struck Cascadia's Pacific coast, but also crossed the Pacific Ocean to Japan, where it damaged coastal villages. Written records of the damage in Japan pinpoint the earthquake to the evening of January 26, 1700. <snip ><end> and the Canadian government: From: http://earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca/historic_eq/15-19th/1700/1700_e.php The M9 Cascadia Megathrust Earthquake of January 26, 1700 At 9PM on January 26, 1700 one of the world's largest earthquakes occurred along the west coast of North America. The undersea Cascadia thrust fault ruptured along a 1000 km length, from mid Vancouver Island to northern California in a great earthquake, producing tremendous shaking and a huge tsunami that swept across the Pacific. The Cascadia fault is the boundary between two of the Earth's tectonic plates: the smaller offshore Juan de Fuca plate that is sliding under the much larger North American plate. The earthquake shaking collapsed houses of the Cowichan people on Vancouver Island and caused numerous landslides. The shaking was so violent that people could not stand and so prolonged that it made them sick. On the west coast of Vancouver Island, the tsunami completely destroyed the winter village of the Pachena Bay people with no survivors. These events are recorded in the oral traditions of the First Nations people on Vancouver Island. The tsunami swept across the Pacific also causing destruction along the Pacific coast of Japan. It is the accurate descriptions of the tsunami and the accurate time keeping by the Japanese that allows us to confidently know the size and exact time of this great earthquake. The earthquake also left unmistakeable signatures in the geological record as the outer coastal regions subsided and drowned coastal shlands and forests that were subsequently covered with younger sediments. The recognition of definitive signatures in the geological record tells us the January 26, 1700 event was not a unique event, but has repeated many times at irregular intervals of hundreds of years. Geological evidence indicates that 13 great earthquakes have occurred in the last 6000 years. We now know that a similar offshore event will happen sometime in the future and that it represents a considerable hazard to those who live in southwest B.C. However, because the fault is offshore, it is not the greatest earthquake hazard faced by major west coast cities. In the interval between great earthquakes, the tectonic plates become stuck together, yet continue to move towards each other. This causes tremendous strain and deformation of the Earth's crust in the coastal region and causes ongoing earthquake activity. This is the situation that we are in now. Some onshore earthquakes can be quite large (there have been four magnitude 7+ earthquakes in the past 130 years in southwest B.C. and northern Washington State). Because these inland earthquakes can be much closer to our urban areas and occur more frequently, they represent the greatest earthquake hazard. An inland magnitude 6.9 earthquake in 1995 in a similar geological setting beneath Kobe, Japan caused in excess of $200 billion damage.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 22:56:53
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 4:00 pm, ST <n...@no.com > wrote: > On 3/6/07 2:18 PM, in article > 1173219521.886301.230...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" > > > > > > <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>> TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is > >>>> because > >>>> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater > >>>> volcanoes > >>>> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also > >>>> the > >>>> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the > >>>> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. > > >>>> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any > >>>> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. > > >>> The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > >>> they stuck in my memory. > > >> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United States. > > > Dumbass - > > > The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington > > and Oregon. lol! moron. > > > thanks, > > > K. Gringioni. > > Look at the f'ing history of events assbag! > There is always "maybe, could have, might happen" in the future........ > > Where have most of these events happened in the last hundred years. NOT in > the US. <snip > Idiot - Read the article. The quakes have a 300 year average interval in the Cascadia Subduction Zone. The last one was in 1700, but the reason there isn't a written history (only a geological one) is that the non- native Americans hadn't settled there yet. thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:33:43
From: ST
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 3/6/07 10:56 PM, in article 1173250613.507304.65920@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > On 6, 4:00 pm, ST <n...@no.com> wrote: >> On 3/6/07 2:18 PM, in article >> 1173219521.886301.230...@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" >> >> >> >> >> >> <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: >>>> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >>>>>>> TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >>>>>> because >>>>>> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater >>>>>> volcanoes >>>>>> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also >>>>>> the >>>>>> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the >>>>>> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. >> >>>>>> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any >>>>>> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. >> >>>>> The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that >>>>> they stuck in my memory. >> >>>> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United >>>> States. >> >>> Dumbass - >> >>> The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington >>> and Oregon. lol! moron. >> >>> thanks, >> >>> K. Gringioni. >> >> Look at the f'ing history of events assbag! >> There is always "maybe, could have, might happen" in the future........ >> >> Where have most of these events happened in the last hundred years. NOT in >> the US. > > > <snip> > > > Idiot - > > > Read the article. The quakes have a 300 year average interval in the > Cascadia Subduction Zone. The last one was in 1700, but the reason > there isn't a written history (only a geological one) is that the non- > native Americans hadn't settled there yet. > > > thanks, > > K. Gringioni. > Thatıs 4 generations assbag!! That kind of scary knowledge is doing a real good job of keeping our coast vacant isn't it??
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 17:01:32
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 7:52 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote: > Bill C wrote: > > But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > > of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > > Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond > in an unthinking, mechanical way. > > Bob Schwartz Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. Bill C
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 18:46:19
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Bill C wrote: > Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. There is no Linux port to the zx80. But oddly enough there is a zx80 emulator that runs under Linux. Who'd a thunk it? Bob Schwartz
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 09:43:46
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Bill C wrote: > Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. I wonder if has a ZX80 keyboard too. That might explain the typos in his code. Programming Z80 assembler on ZX80 keyboard isn't much fun.
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 08:39:27
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Bill C wrote: > On 6, 7:52 pm, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net> > wrote: >> Bill C wrote: >>> But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest >>> of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? >> Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond >> in an unthinking, mechanical way. >> >> Bob Schwartz > > Tom's brain has been replaced by a Sinclair zx80?? OK. > Bill C > I was thinking more like a Texas Instruments TI 5018. http://www.epinions.com/pr-Texas_Instruments_TI_5018_Calculator
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 16:45:05
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 7:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "ST" <n...@no.com> wrote in messagenews:C21340A1.20CD2F%no@no.com... > > > You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'...... > > I like the way that these guys pretend to know what they're talking about > and then if you confront them with citations they come back that I'm the one > acting as a know-it-all. > > I suppose this is the sort of thing that we see in them with the racing > stuff as well. They're all experts on stuff they know nothing about. But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? Bill C
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 04:24:50
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote in message news:1173228305.171880.64720@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > On 6, 7:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: >> "ST" <n...@no.com> wrote in messagenews:C21340A1.20CD2F%no@no.com... >> >> > You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'...... >> >> I like the way that these guys pretend to know what they're talking about >> and then if you confront them with citations they come back that I'm the >> one >> acting as a know-it-all. >> >> I suppose this is the sort of thing that we see in them with the racing >> stuff as well. They're all experts on stuff they know nothing about. > > But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? Here's a clue for you - you're the horses asses who seem to believe that your ideas are infallible. When confronted with a different opinion you can't handle it. Sort of like your crying about the Walter Reed Hospital when the VA Hospital system was taken apart and all of the retired guys were handed something similar to Medicaid in the Clinton administration. Wow am I surprised you missed that.
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 20:07:56
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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In article <m8rHh.9891$Jl.4852@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "Bill C" <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:1173228305.171880.64720@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > On 6, 7:08 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: > >> "ST" <n...@no.com> wrote in messagenews:C21340A1.20CD2F%no@no.com... > >> > >> > You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'...... > >> > >> I like the way that these guys pretend to know what they're talking about > >> and then if you confront them with citations they come back that I'm the > >> one > >> acting as a know-it-all. > >> > >> I suppose this is the sort of thing that we see in them with the racing > >> stuff as well. They're all experts on stuff they know nothing about. > > > > But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > > of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > > Here's a clue for you - you're the horses asses who seem to believe that > your ideas are infallible. When confronted with a different opinion you > can't handle it. > > Sort of like your crying about the Walter Reed Hospital when the VA Hospital > system was taken apart and all of the retired guys were handed something > similar to Medicaid in the Clinton administration. Wow am I surprised you > missed that. I remember when they closed the Navy hospital up the hill. -- Michael Press
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 00:52:43
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Bill C wrote: > But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest > of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond in an unthinking, mechanical way. Bob Schwartz
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 03:05:50
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote in news:v1oHh.6466 $jx3.5871@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net: > Bill C wrote: >> But Tom, How come ONLY your chosen experts have any clue, and the rest >> of the vast majority are just liars, hacks, and incompetents? > > Odd, isn't it? Almost as if he were somehow programmed to respond > in an unthinking, mechanical way. Yes, and that makes him a masterpiece in AI (Artificial Imbecile) technology! NS geek
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 14:18:41
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote: > "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > >> > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is > >> because > >> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater > >> volcanoes > >> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also > >> the > >> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the > >> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. > > >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any > >> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. > > > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > > they stuck in my memory. > > There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United States. Dumbass - The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington and Oregon. lol! moron. thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 00:00:24
From: ST
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 3/6/07 2:18 PM, in article 1173219521.886301.230570@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: >> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >>>> because >>>> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater >>>> volcanoes >>>> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also >>>> the >>>> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the >>>> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. >> >>>> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any >>>> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. >> >>> The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that >>> they stuck in my memory. >> >> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United States. > > > > Dumbass - > > > The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington > and Oregon. lol! moron. > > > thanks, > > K. Gringioni. > Look at the f'ing history of events assbag! There is always "maybe, could have, might happen" in the future........ Where have most of these events happened in the last hundred years. NOT in the US. This prediction is like saying a Frenchman will win the TDF, sometime in the future. So if it happens in the next hundred years it was correct? Ultimate candyassing there. We have had many earthquakes in our area, yes! How many have caused a Tsunami?? No. I am not talking about Alaska either... You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'......
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 00:08:02
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"ST" <no@no.com > wrote in message news:C21340A1.20CD2F%no@no.com... > > You guys play a mean game of manly-man semantics'...... I like the way that these guys pretend to know what they're talking about and then if you confront them with citations they come back that I'm the one acting as a know-it-all. I suppose this is the sort of thing that we see in them with the racing stuff as well. They're all experts on stuff they know nothing about.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 23:24:25
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1173219521.886301.230570@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: >> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >> >> because >> >> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater >> >> volcanoes >> >> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also >> >> the >> >> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the >> >> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. >> >> >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of >> >> any >> >> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. >> >> > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that >> > they stuck in my memory. >> >> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United >> States. > > The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington > and Oregon. lol! moron. I realize that you're really attempting to look st but you aren't built for it. If you were bright enough to understand how subduction zones generate earthquakes you'd understand that the continental plate is on the "safe" side. As for "global warming": http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/numerical_models_integrated_ci.html "In this competitive environment, one can imagine climate modelers justifying their work by citing the possibility of global change, the further study of which requires, of course, "more research". One can further imagine that in the inchoate communication between university researcher, funding agency, congressional staffer and congressmen that "possibility" eventually became "probability" and then "probability" morphed into "certainty" of global warming, especially if there was potential for political advantage. This has resulted in an inadvertent funding-feedback mechanism that now resonates in largely unjustified alarm and also seeks to quash scientific dissidents who indirectly threaten to throttle the funding spigots."
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 00:22:41
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message news:JKmHh.9978$tD2.1266@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1173219521.886301.230570@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> On 6, 12:47 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote: >>> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >>> >> > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >>> >> because >>> >> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater >>> >> volcanoes >>> >> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. >>> >> Also >>> >> the >>> >> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause >>> >> the >>> >> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. >>> >>> >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of >>> >> any >>> >> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. >>> >>> > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that >>> > they stuck in my memory. >>> >>> There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United >>> States. >> >> The Cascadia subduction zone is 50 miles off the coast of Washington >> and Oregon. lol! moron. > > I realize that you're really attempting to look st but you aren't built > for it. If you were bright enough to understand how subduction zones > generate earthquakes you'd understand that the continental plate is on the > "safe" side. > > As for "global warming": > http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/numerical_models_integrated_ci.html > > "In this competitive environment, one can imagine climate modelers > justifying their work by citing the possibility of global change, the > further study of which requires, of course, "more research". One can > further imagine that in the inchoate communication between university > researcher, funding agency, congressional staffer and congressmen that > "possibility" eventually became "probability" and then "probability" > morphed into "certainty" of global warming, especially if there was > potential for political advantage. > > > This has resulted in an inadvertent funding-feedback mechanism that now > resonates in largely unjustified alarm and also seeks to quash scientific > dissidents who indirectly threaten to throttle the funding spigots." That's right folks, on the same website you can read about the "shocking" "tragedy" of the Libby verdict, and about the many benefits of global warming, including making you sexier: "Just a small rise in worldwide temperature could dramatically raise the world's level of happiness and even sexual desire." http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/03/global_warming_will_make_you_h.html
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 01:06:04
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Jim Flom wrote: <snip > > > That's right folks, on the same website you can read about the > "shocking" "tragedy" of the Libby verdict, and about the many benefits > of global warming, including making you sexier: "Just a small rise in > worldwide temperature could dramatically raise the world's level of > happiness and even sexual desire." > http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/03/global_warming_will_make_you_h.h > tml > > Here's a quote from Tom's expert: "I am not a climatologist or meteorologist" It's always a good idea to rely on people who specifically state they know nothing about the processes they are talking about for expert advice on that subject, especially if you don't really want to know anything about it. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 20:47:23
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> > TomKunich<cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >> because >> the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of underwater >> volcanoes >> or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a subduction zone. Also >> the >> coasts of the USA are wide open to the ocean and hence don't cause the >> focusing effects that often multiply wave size and power. >> >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of any >> major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. > > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > they stuck in my memory. There you have it from bang-bang chang - Indonesian is in the United States.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 14:48:02
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On 6 2007 10:43:29 -0800, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > >Dumbasses - > > >The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that >they stuck in my memory. Kunich is an expert on vulcanology and >seismology. heh heh. One of the numerous branches of science about >which he is oh-so-knowledgable. A true polymath. Remember, none of the >subduction zones are close to the USA. > > >From: >http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html > >Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent > >By Robin Lloyd >Special to LiveScience >posted: 03 January 2005 >07:21 pm ET Dumbass All you did was identify some obviously liberal scientists with agendas. Besides, most tsunamis in the Pacific are caused by the effects of stingrays flapping in Florida. Or manatees. One of the two. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 11:26:47
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Stu Fleming wrote: > > Don't forget the potential volcano collapse in the Canary Islands. You only have to worry when it's kinetic. R
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 08:23:25
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent > > By Robin Lloyd > Special to LiveScience > posted: 03 January 2005 > 07:21 pm ET > > > > There are only two places in the United States where colliding > tectonic plates could cause a major tsunami, and new studies show a > new earthquake in at least one of these locations could be imminent. Don't forget the potential volcano collapse in the Canary Islands.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 19:06:43
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in news:1173206609.510136.108100@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: > On Jan 10 2005, 6:29 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclin...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> The main reasons that people in the USA aren't killed by tsunamis is >> because the worst ones are caused either by major eruptions of >> underwater volcanoes or by a rapid vertical jerk-type earthquake in a >> subduction zone. Also the coasts of the USA are wide open to the >> ocean and hence don't cause the focusing effects that often multiply >> wave size and power. >> >> None of those sources are close to the USA and hence the chances of >> any major damage from a tsunami are relatively minor at best. > > <snip> > > Dumbasses - > > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > they stuck in my memory. Kunich is an expert on vulcanology and > seismology. heh heh. One of the numerous branches of science about > which he is oh-so-knowledgable. A true polymath. Remember, none of the > subduction zones are close to the USA. > > From: > http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050103_cascadia_tsunami.html > > Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent > > By Robin Lloyd > Special to LiveScience > posted: 03 January 2005 > 07:21 pm ET <snip > Dumbass, It is obvious that Robin Lloyd has been brainwashed by actually studying plate tectonics. He should pay rbr a visit so he can debate Kunich and learn everything that got beamed into his head by time traveling aliens. NS time traveler
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 21:57:58
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Nev Shea wrote: > It is obvious that Robin Lloyd has been brainwashed by actually studying > plate tectonics. He should pay rbr a visit so he can debate Kunich and > learn everything that got beamed into his head by time traveling aliens. Bob Schwartz is an alien ?
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 15:30:42
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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On Tue, 06 2007 21:57:58 +0200, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote: > >Bob Schwartz is an alien ? And he travels in time by locking an unsuspecting victim in an infinitely repeating time loop, changed only by differing occupations. The victim accumulates story after story, but evidently can't accumulate wisdom or change from his initial confused mental state. Why Bob gave him Internet access is beyond me. Pity is often overrated. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 09:41:16
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Donald Munro >>Bob Schwartz is an alien ? Curtis L. Russell wrote: > And he travels in time by locking an unsuspecting victim in an > infinitely repeating time loop, changed only by differing occupations. > The victim accumulates story after story, but evidently can't > accumulate wisdom or change from his initial confused mental state. But if he's an alien why does he use a prolix name like Bob Schwartz, surely Ford Prefect or Jeep Cherokee or Scooter Libby would be more appropriate.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 11:02:13
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Kunich's Awesome Resume
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > > The above posts, after the Indonesian tsunami, were so absurd that > they stuck in my memory. Kunich is an expert on vulcanology and > seismology. heh heh. One of the numerous branches of science about > which he is oh-so-knowledgable. A true polymath. I'm not sure why you have such problems believing that TK is an expert on vulcanology. Here's a picture of him at his graduation - obviously a while ago, he had a lot more hair then. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/stmagazine/vulcan-fc-llap.jpg R
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