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Date: 16 Dec 2006 09:01:20
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Okay, here's my thoughts... I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for another price cut. Probably not going to make that. http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm Looking at that page, I note that ANY style or colour of jerseys can be combined for the minimum order size. That means...we don't have to choose. Long sleeve, short sleeve, and any colour you like. The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or embroidered? Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. To reiterate, we'll have to pick one or the other for ALL jerseys. Price breakdown, typical examples: Long sleeve jersey, embroidered: $51+$12+shipping ($6-15 non-rush) = ~$73 to you. Short sleeve, flocked: $46.50+$3.50+shipping = ~$60 to you. That's about the best and worst case scenarios. If we did a custom not-just-his-stock-fonts logo, it would be more expensive. Order details: -site currently says shirts are back-ordered to February, so be prepared to wait. -Unless the site owner is prepared to ship each shirt individually, I'll receive them all and forward them out. They'll probably go parcel post unless you prefer to pay for a faster method. I'll charge true shipping and repackaging costs, as best as possible. To give you an idea, I plugged France into the Canada Post ship-o-matic calculator, and slow-boat shipping would be about C$12, plus whatever a decent envelope costs me. -Unless there is strenuous objection, I intend to demand payment in advance, by PayPal. The vendor accepts PayPal, so that seems to simplify the agony of moving the money. What's next: -complain in this thread about the design, reach consensus on embroidered versus flocking and design details (font, second line, etc.) -I write to site guy and figure out where to send 20% "reservation" deposit. Then: -"design" finalized -website tells me when and how to pay deposit -you pick jersey style, paypal me deposit -I send in deposits plus jersey order Finally: -you pay me balance -I pay jersey guys -Jerseys logo-ized, shipped to me -I break* and re-ship the order to all of you -weeks later, you receive jersey, wear on your next club ride, hilarity ensues. Wear to pub, get people buying you drinks. Wear to Lance Armstrong Foundation fundraiser, get ass totally kicked. *note use of actual shipping terminology, learned from my brother Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:35:17
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > "bdbafh" <bdbafh@gmail.com> wrote: > > Donald Munro wrote: > > > > > > Classy drunks don't drink beer. > > > > Not even a magical brew such as Trappist Westvleteren 12? > > > > http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/index2.html > > > > I had no idea that 30 euros could go so far. > > > > I find it charming that if you read the Trappists' pages, they seem > downright taken aback with the popularity of their beer. As in, you have > to come to the abbey to buy it, no resale is permitted (they probably > can't enforce that temporally, but that would be about the dumbest > reason ever for damnation: you should drink that beer yourself!), and > they'll only sell you limited quantities. > > NTTAWWT. I have a great fondness for monks living under the Rule of St. > Benedict, even if they are Cistercians. > > I guess I now have a reason to connect my next flight through Belgium, Interesting that they require in advance the license number of the car that would be picking up the Westvleteren 12. Is that so they can give the Belgedarmes advance notice of who will be driving drunk and when? R
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:37:39
From: bdbafh
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Donald Munro wrote: > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > >> Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and > >> is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk. > > Howard Kveck wrote: > > Good thing to aspire to, of course. > > Classy drunks don't drink beer. Not even a magical brew such as Trappist Westvleteren 12? http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/index2.html I had no idea that 30 euros could go so far. -bdbafh
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 17:44:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <1166625459.451353.135460@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >, "bdbafh" <bdbafh@gmail.com > wrote: > Donald Munro wrote: > > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > > >> Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and > > >> is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk. > > > > Howard Kveck wrote: > > > Good thing to aspire to, of course. > > > > Classy drunks don't drink beer. > > Not even a magical brew such as Trappist Westvleteren 12? > > http://www.sintsixtus.be/eng/index2.html > > I had no idea that 30 euros could go so far. > > -bdbafh I find it charming that if you read the Trappists' pages, they seem downright taken aback with the popularity of their beer. As in, you have to come to the abbey to buy it, no resale is permitted (they probably can't enforce that temporally, but that would be about the dumbest reason ever for damnation: you should drink that beer yourself!), and they'll only sell you limited quantities. NTTAWWT. I have a great fondness for monks living under the Rule of St. Benedict, even if they are Cistercians. I guess I now have a reason to connect my next flight through Belgium, -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:43:31
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > > > Dumbass, > > > > LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With > > Dumbass - > > How do you know about that? You were around then or did you hear about > the aftermath? Dumbass, It's not like you haven't talked about it repeatedly. But, I think I was lurking in RBR at the time of the original thread. I don't know the actual participants IRL (or any RL aftermath, if there was one). There are some funny funny threads in the archives. It's a damn shame Tom Kunich ruined RBR by driving Myerson away. Ben P.S. I think it should just say LIVEDRUNK, nothing else. Less is more, and all that. One of the reasons the original Livestrong stuff worked was the minimal design. Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:47:34
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <1166582611.072974.196540@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >, "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote: > Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > > > > > Dumbass, > > > > > > LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With > > > > Dumbass - > > > > How do you know about that? You were around then or did you hear about > > the aftermath? > > Dumbass, > > It's not like you haven't talked about it repeatedly. But, > I think I was lurking in RBR at the time of the original thread. > I don't know the actual participants IRL (or any RL aftermath, > if there was one). > > There are some funny funny threads in the archives. It's a > damn shame Tom Kunich ruined RBR by driving Myerson > away. But TK swears that people like Myerson and others were bringing down the tone of this group. Heh... > P.S. I think it should just say LIVEDRUNK, nothing else. > Less is more, and all that. One of the reasons the original > Livestrong stuff worked was the minimal design. I agree with this, although if everyone else is in favor of more then I'd say go with Wm. Asher's simple "-Benjamin Franklin" because it's all about the Benjamins. > Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and > is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk. Good thing to aspire to, of course. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:44:23
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: >> Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and >> is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk. Howard Kveck wrote: > Good thing to aspire to, of course. Classy drunks don't drink beer.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 17:41:52
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <458914aa$0$5993$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote: > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > >> Also, I favor embroidered lettering - it doesn't cost much more and > >> is classier, and I have always aspired to be a classy drunk. > > Howard Kveck wrote: > > Good thing to aspire to, of course. > > Classy drunks don't drink beer. Don't listen to him! I've got more class shoved up my butt than he has all over his body. Ahem. Beer is totally classy, as long as it's either European or has some European tendencies (Unibroue qualifies under this clause, sub-category "really froggy"). Bonus points if it is best served in a Duvel glass, and you're actually drinking it from a Duvel glass. And remember, it's always classy to be beer-drunk in a cyclocross beer tent, because cyclocross is the new fixed gear. singlespeed cyclocross will be the new fixed gear next year. Oddly, last year the new fixed gear was 29ers. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 18:05:49
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: <snip > > > And remember, it's always classy to be beer-drunk in a cyclocross beer > tent, because cyclocross is the new fixed gear. > > singlespeed cyclocross will be the new fixed gear next year. Oddly, last > year the new fixed gear was 29ers. > Can you predict how long it will be before friction-shifting 5-speed rear derailleurs and short-blocks are the new fixed-gear? -- Bill Asher
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 19:21:27
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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William Asher wrote: > Can you predict how long it will be before friction-shifting 5-speed rear > derailleurs and short-blocks are the new fixed-gear? Sven Nijs will go back to 9-speed or else require radical improvement of the 10-speed chain and derailler... E.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 02:05:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <Xns989F66ECE71F2FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >, William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > <snip> > > > > And remember, it's always classy to be beer-drunk in a cyclocross beer > > tent, because cyclocross is the new fixed gear. > > > > singlespeed cyclocross will be the new fixed gear next year. Oddly, last > > year the new fixed gear was 29ers. > > > > Can you predict how long it will be before friction-shifting 5-speed rear > derailleurs and short-blocks are the new fixed-gear? As soon as the fixie riders turn 40. But William, dare to be out of it: my Miyata 210 commuter/winter/cargo bike says they're here RIGHT NOW! -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 21:05:31
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > In article <Xns989F66ECE71F2FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4>, > William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> >> <snip> >> > >> > And remember, it's always classy to be beer-drunk in a cyclocross >> > beer tent, because cyclocross is the new fixed gear. >> > >> > singlespeed cyclocross will be the new fixed gear next year. Oddly, >> > last year the new fixed gear was 29ers. >> > >> >> Can you predict how long it will be before friction-shifting 5-speed >> rear derailleurs and short-blocks are the new fixed-gear? > > As soon as the fixie riders turn 40. > > But William, dare to be out of it: my Miyata 210 commuter/winter/cargo > bike says they're here RIGHT NOW! > You're going to start a new LIVEDRUNK trend where everyone tries to outdo everyone else in terms of the biggest collection of crappy bikes. When Tom gets back, we'll be hearing about how many Schwinn Varsities and Continentals he has in his garage. Rather than even try to compete in that game, can I just tell people I never bother shifting? Maybe that could be the second line: LIVEDRUNK It's not about the bike Or maybe someone already suggested that. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 22 Dec 2006 09:17:15
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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William Asher wrote: > Maybe that could be the second line: > LIVEDRUNK > It's not about the bike It's not about the beer
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Date: 22 Dec 2006 14:26:24
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Donald Munro wrote: > William Asher wrote: >> Maybe that could be the second line: >> LIVEDRUNK >> It's not about the bike > > It's not about the beer > Dumbass, When can we expect the book to be published ? Bill
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:09:35
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell a > few more to others Perhaps Santa will buy one: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/dec06/UScrossnats06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/dec06/UScrossnats06/UScrossnats0612/121706ecX_NATS_MISC_004
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 21:56:28
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > > > > Dumbass - > > > > LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? > > LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today > > LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! > > Dumbass, > > LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With > > Ben Dumbass - How do you know about that? You were around then or did you hear about the aftermath? thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 23:59:37
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <1166507788.688705.226340@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: > > > > > > Dumbass - > > > > > > LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? > > > LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today > > > LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! > > > > Dumbass, > > > > LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With > > > > Ben > > > > Dumbass - > > > How do you know about that? You were around then or did you hear about > the aftermath? I seem to remember you mentioning it at least once in here. Aftermath? -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:38:14
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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On 18 Dec 2006 21:56:28 -0800, Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > How do you know about that? You were around then or did you hear > about the aftermath? After, before; Ben loves his math. -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 16:33:21
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote: > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: > > >> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > > > > > Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. > > > > LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children > > LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it > > What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK > > LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days > > LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? > > LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel > > LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR > > LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped > > Dumbass - > > LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? > LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today > LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! Dumbass, LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With Ben
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 10:54:37
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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On 18 Dec 2006 16:33:21 -0800, bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote: >>>>> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. >>>> >>>> Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. >>> >>> LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children >>> LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it >>> What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK >>> LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days >>> LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? >>> LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel >>> LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR >>> LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped >> >> LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? >> LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today >> LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! > > LIVEDRUNK - A Force To Be Reckoned With LIVEDRUNK - Ball cancer is gay LIVEDRUNK - Die in my wheel LIVEDRUNK - Two olives please or one heather LIVEDRUNK - Mixin' it up LIVEDRUNK - Got beer? LIVEDRUNK - Positive Dope -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 15:00:29
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: > >> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > > > Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. > > LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children > LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it > What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK > LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days > LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? > LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel > LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR > LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped Dumbass - LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:43:15
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <1166482829.348144.321770@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com >, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: > > >> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > > > > > Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. > > > > LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children > > LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it > > What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK > > LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days > > LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? > > LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel > > LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR > > LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped > > > > Dumbass - > > > LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? > LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today > LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! Shurely the first one should be "How do you like me now?" -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 04:57:03
From: ST
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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On 12/18/06 3:00 PM, in article 1166482829.348144.321770@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote: > > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: >> Ewoud Dronkert wrote: >>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: >>>> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. >>> >>> Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. >> >> LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children >> LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it >> What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK >> LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days >> LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? >> LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel >> LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR >> LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped > > > > Dumbass - > > > LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? > LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today > LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! > > > thanks, > > K. Gringioni. > Dumberass - LIVEDRUNK - Breakfast of Champions!
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:20:19
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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ST wrote: > On 12/18/06 3:00 PM, in article > 1166482829.348144.321770@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com, "Kurgan Gringioni" > <kgringioni@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Ewoud Dronkert wrote: >>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote: >>>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: >>>>> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. >>>> Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. >>> LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children >>> LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it >>> What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK >>> LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days >>> LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? >>> LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel >>> LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR >>> LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped >> >> >> Dumbass - >> >> >> LIVEDRUNK - How about them apples? >> LIVEDRUNK - it's made me whom I am today >> LIVEDRUNK - Super Motivated! >> >> >> thanks, >> >> K. Gringioni. >> > > Dumberass - > > LIVEDRUNK - Breakfast of Champions! > Just LIVEDRUNK
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 23:12:44
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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William Asher wrote: > Gabe Brovedani <gbrov@pacbell.net> wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466 > @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: > > > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > > >> Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? > >> > > > > No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or > > brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so > > that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was > > worth it. > > Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin > because you have a kidney infection. Dumbass - Your wife is gullible enough to believe the "this stuff on my penis (gonnorhea) is from my kidney infection" line? thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 07:21:20
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in news:1166425964.750868.187940@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com: > > William Asher wrote: >> Gabe Brovedani <gbrov@pacbell.net> wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466 >> @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: >> >> > Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> > >> >> Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? >> >> >> > >> > No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or >> > brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so >> > that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was >> > worth it. >> >> Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin >> because you have a kidney infection. > > Dumbass - > > Your wife is gullible enough to believe the "this stuff on my penis > (gonnorhea) is from my kidney infection" line? > If she was dumb enough to ry you (or me or whoever), she'll probably believe anything. Besides: Seen a man standin’ over a dead dog lyin’ by the highway in a ditch He’s lookin’ down kinda puzzled pokin’ that dog with a stick Got his car door flung open he’s standin’ out on highway 31 Like if he stood there long enough that dog’d get up and run Struck me kinda funny seem kinda funny sir to me Still at the end of every hard earned day people find some reason to believe -da Boss -- Bill Asher
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 00:01:40
From: Gabe Brovedani
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? > No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was worth it. Gabe
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 07:05:26
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Gabe Brovedani <gbrov@pacbell.net > wrote in news:ETkhh.10433$hI.466 @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > >> Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? >> > > No design decisions should be made without whiskey (or bourbon) or > brandy. You should probably extend this to when payments are made so > that we get to explain to our spouses why a 730.00 dollar jersey was > worth it. Harder explaining to your spouse is why she needs a shot of penicillin because you have a kidney infection. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 14:21:40
From: Robert Chung
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or > embroidered? > > Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text > Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line > (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for embroidery.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 07:15:09
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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"Robert Chung" <me@address.invalid > wrote in news:4ulu7rF18t64jU1@mid.individual.net: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or >> embroidered? >> >> Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text >> Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second >> line (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. > > I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the > advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for > embroidery. Embroidery would also remind the Canadians more of a hockey sweater and if you want to attract Canadian business there is nothing better than making your product look, feel, smell, taste, and sound like a hockey sweater. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02
From: Gabe Brovedani
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Robert Chung wrote: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > >>The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or >>embroidered? >> >>Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text >>Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line >>(rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. > > > I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the > advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for > embroidery. > > > I vote embroidered. Which Asher line: Benjamin Franklin or Stay ried? I tend to like rec.bicycles.racing but the utterly obscure Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. Gabe
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 21:32:36
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <KXkhh.10434$hI.579@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net >, Gabe Brovedani <gbrov@pacbell.net > wrote: > Robert Chung wrote: > > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > > >>The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or > >>embroidered? > >> > >>Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text > >>Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line > >>(rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. > > > > > > I think flocking is probably more authentic, but embroidery has the > > advantage of two lines. I sorta like Asher's 2nd line, so I'd vote for > > embroidery. > > > > > > > I vote embroidered. Which Asher line: Benjamin Franklin or Stay > ried? I tend to like rec.bicycles.racing but the utterly obscure > Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > Gabe You know, it hadn't occurred to me that aside from the "riage is hell" bromide in "stay ried," it's also a subtle jab at Lance! What, no nominations for... -It's Millar Time -This buzz for you -I can't feel my legs! &c... I am going to pretend that in a few days someone collects all the second-line suggestions and puts them on a survey website. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 08:29:15
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: > Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 23:49:47
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: >> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:14:39
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days LIVEDRUNK - Exceeds all EU warranties
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:34:19
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <lu3eo29a8d448gjlgt9gv8deaj76r1srqd@4ax.com >, Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote: > Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:06:02 GMT, Gabe Brovedani wrote: > >> Benjamin Franklin is very funny and Americocentric to boot. > > > > Ben Franklin but make it look like LANCE's autograph. a > LIVEDRUNK - Think of the children b > LIVEDRUNK - Because your worth it c > What am I on? - LIVEDRUNK d > LIVEDRUNK - Lasts more than 365 days e > LIVEDRUNK - Is this acceptable??? f > LIVEDRUNK - Proud sponsor of Duvel f > LIVEDRUNK - The tumor of RBR g > LIVEDRUNK - Or get dropped a, f, g are superb. b, just because. LIVEDRUNK - Not that there's anything wrong with that. -- Michael Press
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 23:05:12
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in news:rcousine-42E896.01011816122006@news.telus.net: > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell > a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for > another price cut. Probably not going to make that. > > http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm Ok, I want one too. I would prefer the embroidered logo. In that case, I think the second line should be: -Benjamin Franklin because the world needs more completely obscure "in" jokes, it makes a great opening line icebreaker after the ride, and for all we know, maybe Franklin really did say that at some point in his life. You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except there will be two of us, as usual. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:38:43
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <Xns989B9984DA06DFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >, William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote: > Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in > news:rcousine-42E896.01011816122006@news.telus.net: > > > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > > > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > > That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell > > a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for > > another price cut. Probably not going to make that. > > > > http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm > > Ok, I want one too. I would prefer the embroidered logo. In that case, > I think the second line should be: > > -Benjamin Franklin > > because the world needs more completely obscure "in" jokes, it makes a > great opening line icebreaker after the ride, and for all we know, maybe > Franklin really did say that at some point in his life. > > You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these > over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there > are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all > over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little > extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get > someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in > person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you > because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what > you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except > there will be two of us, as usual. I hadn't thought of the GST issues.... It's worth some consideration, for sure. Oh right, now I remembered: after talking to the jersey vendor, he said no problem about shipping out jersey to a bunch of addresses, as long as he gets to charge shipping (duh!) on each separate address. So unless anyone finds his shipping costs objectionable, I'd just go with that option. If you are in geographical proximity to someone on this group, though, by all means combine the order to save shipping costs. I'm around Vancouver, so anyone in the area who wants to get a jersey is welcome to contact me. We should still combine the initial order, since I'm pretty sure Portland's economies of scale go completely out the window if he actually has to talk to 20 people, especially 20 rbr people. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:35:40
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > I hadn't thought of the GST issues.... > > It's worth some consideration, for sure. > > Oh right, now I remembered: after talking to the jersey vendor, he said > no problem about shipping out jersey to a bunch of addresses, as long as > he gets to charge shipping (duh!) on each separate address. > That's convenient on the shipping. In that case GST won't be an issue. In other words: never mind. -- Bill Asher
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 18:46:40
From: h squared
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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William Asher wrote: > You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these > over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there > are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all > over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little > extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get > someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in > person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you > because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what > you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except > there will be two of us, as usual. ok, but if you get a jersey then i don't need to get my own because i can just conveniently borrow yours for my frequent (NOT...) race days. don't we wear the same size? mmmm, stinky girl sweat :) although i am willing to help with shipping without requiring any kind of "jersey tax" if it will save a bunch of money for everyone else. just not before christmas. heather
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 15:59:57
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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William Asher wrote: >> You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these >> over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? If there >> are, maybe we could get them sent to Heather, she sends them off all >> over the country. What does she get out of it? We all kick in a little >> extra and that's how she gets her jersey. She could probably even get >> someone here to clean her bicycle for her if she modeled it for them in >> person. If you do all the shipping we don't kick in extra for you >> because nobody cares if your bicycle is clean and if we want to see what >> you look like in the jersey we just have to look in the mirror, except >> there will be two of us, as usual. h squared wrote: > don't we wear the same size? mmmm, stinky girl sweat :) Dumbass, He actually wants to share your bib-shorts with you.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 07:11:14
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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h squared <clevistoreplyremovethisbit@comcast.net > wrote in news:--mdnUw1admMnBvYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com: <snip > > > ok, but if you get a jersey then i don't need to get my own because i > can just conveniently borrow yours for my frequent (NOT...) race days. > don't we wear the same size? mmmm, stinky girl sweat :) > > although i am willing to help with shipping without requiring any kind > of "jersey tax" if it will save a bunch of money for everyone else. > just not before christmas. Girls sweat?!?!?!? eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Bill Asher
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 06:58:49
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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h squared <clevistoreplyremovethisbit@comcast.net > writes: > William Asher wrote: > > > You're in B.C. right? Are there any GST issues for you shipping these > > over the border and back for those of us living in the U.S.? k the packages something like "Used clothing being returned to Owner" Value "10 Roublez, NCV" NCV=="No Commercial Value" Always worked for Davey who fervently believes in Free Trade -- Le vent à Dos Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply] X-Shakespeare: "Thou hast damnable iteration, and art indeed able to corrupt a saint." -- King Henry IV, I.i.2
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 19:23:07
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <Xns989B9984DA06DFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >, William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote: > Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in > news:rcousine-42E896.01011816122006@news.telus.net: > > > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > > > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > > That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell > > a few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for > > another price cut. Probably not going to make that. > > > > http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm > > Ok, I want one too. I would prefer the embroidered logo. In that case, > I think the second line should be: > > -Benjamin Franklin > > because the world needs more completely obscure "in" jokes, it makes a > great opening line icebreaker after the ride, and for all we know, maybe > Franklin really did say that at some point in his life. That is a good inside joke. Now if we could find a way to incorporate "apaling" and "stocker" it would be complete. -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 12:06:33
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. Dumbass - I'd probably get more than one. Those things will make great wedding gifts (especially since most wedding gifts suck). thanks, K. Gringioni.
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 22:53:57
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni@hotmail.com > wrote in news:1166299593.402220.198770@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com: > > Ryan Cousineau wrote: >> Okay, here's my thoughts... >> >> I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > > I'd probably get more than one. Those things will make great wedding > gifts (especially since most wedding gifts suck). > In that case, maybe you could get the second line to read: "Stay ried" -- Bill Asher
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 11:49:54
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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On Dec 16, 2:16 pm, Kyle Legate <lega...@hotmail.com > wrote: > Ryan Cousineau wrote: > > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > > Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans?Oooh, I'm about to get my first wool jersey. I guess that means I'm > still young. That also means that I would prefer a flocked LIVEDRUNK > only because of the comments from people I think know about these things. > > The font should not be comic sans:http://bancomicsans.com/home.html > > but aside from that, the excitement of my first wool jersey means that I > would also be pleased with an embroidered logo. > > What font is on the yellow bracelet? I'm voting for embroidered too, and am definitely in. Bill C
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 19:43:13
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <rcousine-42E896.01011816122006@news.telus.net >, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote: > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > I have what seem to be 13 committed orders for a LIVEDRUNK jersey. > That's enough to hit the first good price break. I may be able to sell a > few more to others, but the next magic number would be 30 for another > price cut. Probably not going to make that. > > http://www.portlandcyclewear.com/page/page/3163257.htm > > Looking at that page, I note that ANY style or colour of jerseys can be > combined for the minimum order size. That means...we don't have to > choose. Long sleeve, short sleeve, and any colour you like. > > The only common element will be the LIVEDRUNK logo. Flocked or > embroidered? > > Flocking costs $3.50 per jersey, 1 line of text > Embroidery is $12, but we can do 2 lines. Suggestions for a second line > (rec.bicycles.racing? nothing?) encouraged. > > To reiterate, we'll have to pick one or the other for ALL jerseys. > > Price breakdown, typical examples: > > Long sleeve jersey, embroidered: $51+$12+shipping ($6-15 non-rush) = > ~$73 to you. > > Short sleeve, flocked: $46.50+$3.50+shipping = ~$60 to you. > > That's about the best and worst case scenarios. If we did a custom > not-just-his-stock-fonts logo, it would be more expensive. > > Order details: > > -site currently says shirts are back-ordered to February, so be prepared > to wait. > -Unless the site owner is prepared to ship each shirt individually, I'll > receive them all and forward them out. They'll probably go parcel post > unless you prefer to pay for a faster method. I'll charge true shipping > and repackaging costs, as best as possible. To give you an idea, I > plugged France into the Canada Post ship-o-matic calculator, and > slow-boat shipping would be about C$12, plus whatever a decent envelope > costs me. > -Unless there is strenuous objection, I intend to demand payment in > advance, by PayPal. The vendor accepts PayPal, so that seems to simplify > the agony of moving the money. > > What's next: > -complain in this thread about the design, reach consensus on > embroidered versus flocking and design details (font, second line, etc.) > -I write to site guy and figure out where to send 20% "reservation" > deposit. > > Then: > -"design" finalized > -website tells me when and how to pay deposit > -you pick jersey style, paypal me deposit > -I send in deposits plus jersey order > > Finally: > -you pay me balance > -I pay jersey guys > -Jerseys logo-ized, shipped to me > -I break* and re-ship the order to all of you > -weeks later, you receive jersey, wear on your next club ride, hilarity > ensues. Wear to pub, get people buying you drinks. Wear to Lance > Armstrong Foundation fundraiser, get ass totally kicked. > > *note use of actual shipping terminology, learned from my brother > > Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? I am still in. The various design plans indicated are fine with me. Is that your email address up there? -- Michael Press
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 05:50:38
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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In article <jack-F2E22A.11431216122006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >, Michael Press <jack@fake.net > wrote: > In article > <rcousine-42E896.01011816122006@news.telus.net>, > Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote: > > I am still in. The various design plans indicated are > fine with me. Is that your email address up there? Yes. that email address actually works. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 20:16:50
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: LIVEDRUNK jerseys: getting serious
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > Okay, here's my thoughts... > > > Suggestions? Complaints? Design plans? > Oooh, I'm about to get my first wool jersey. I guess that means I'm still young. That also means that I would prefer a flocked LIVEDRUNK only because of the comments from people I think know about these things. The font should not be comic sans: http://bancomicsans.com/home.html but aside from that, the excitement of my first wool jersey means that I would also be pleased with an embroidered logo. What font is on the yellow bracelet?
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