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Date: 18 May 2007 15:10:12
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: LeMond's testimony is virtually meaningless.
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12272.0.html

The dullards that are talking about analytical chemistry
are damaging. The testimony of the virtual Tour winner
is virtually meaningless. Notice that he says nothing
about whether Lemond's account of the conversation is
credible or not.

Up today, Joe Papp. I can't wait. I'll bet Burt Hoovis
will be tuning in.

Bob Schwartz




 
Date: 18 May 2007 12:50:00
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: LeMond's testimony is virtually meaningless.
On May 18, 2:30 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> derFah...@gmail.com wrote:
> > True ... but the incident does seem to quash the argument of "why
> > would Floyd be so stupid to take something (that supposedly wouldn't
> > affect his 1 day performance) knowing he would be tested"
>
> > If anything ... this indicent shows that even a modicum of
> > intelligence can't be assumed.
>
> Simple answer: because testosterone does help.
>
> Any reference that letting your testosterone drop to levels characteristic of post-menopausal women, something which can happen from extreme fatigue, is not detrimental to athletic performance? I keep reading this argument, and never see it backed up.
>
> Dan


This is just one more result of the screwed up drug testing system. If
the actual te ratios for every rider tested were published, no rider
would continue to use testerone patches. Reports would indicate that
flandis had a number of sub-positive high te ratios along with
countless others.




 
Date: 18 May 2007 12:13:39
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: LeMond's testimony is virtually meaningless.
On May 18, 11:10 am, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12272.0.html
>
> The dullards that are talking about analytical chemistry
> are damaging. The testimony of the virtual Tour winner
> is virtually meaningless. Notice that he says nothing
> about whether Lemond's account of the conversation is
> credible or not.

True ... but the incident does seem to quash the argument of "why
would Floyd be so stupid to take something (that supposedly wouldn't
affect his 1 day performance) knowing he would be tested"

If anything ... this indicent shows that even a modicum of
intelligence can't be assumed.




  
Date: 18 May 2007 19:30:13
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: LeMond's testimony is virtually meaningless.
derFahrer@gmail.com wrote:

> True ... but the incident does seem to quash the argument of "why
> would Floyd be so stupid to take something (that supposedly wouldn't
> affect his 1 day performance) knowing he would be tested"
>
> If anything ... this indicent shows that even a modicum of
> intelligence can't be assumed.
>
>

Simple answer: because testosterone does help.

Any reference that letting your testosterone drop to levels characteristic of post-menopausal women, something which can happen from extreme fatigue, is not detrimental to athletic performance? I keep reading this argument, and never see it backed up.

Dan


 
Date: 18 May 2007 17:43:32
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: LeMond's testimony is virtually meaningless.
Dans le message de news:olj3i.22445$JZ3.5135@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net,
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > a réfléchi, et puis a
déclaré :
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12272.0.html
>
> The dullards that are talking about analytical chemistry
> are damaging. The testimony of the virtual Tour winner
> is virtually meaningless. Notice that he says nothing
> about whether Lemond's account of the conversation is
> credible or not.

Wouldn't it be quaint for the arbitrators to come to their own conclusion?
Nah - better to use SMS voting, right?
>
> Up today, Joe Papp. I can't wait.

I guess you're waiting for yet another second-hand report. Fox? CNN?
Smiley's Bar & Grill?

--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR