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Date: 04 Aug 2007 11:05:34
From: Carmine Clamenza
Subject: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his pro
career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac arrhythmia. Is
the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to doping? Doesn't
the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and causes serious vascular
problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI going to open an investigation
into the true cause of Leonardo's victory? I will not be surprised if they
do.
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"Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of the
225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to then
overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro Valverde
(Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital) finished around a
half-minute back.
The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this spring
for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to build
back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."
Source:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/aug07/sansebastian07/?id=results
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 12:51:52
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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On Aug 6, 7:13 am, "mal" <malcolm1...@comcast.net > wrote:
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1186367736.967233.160210@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
> > cadiac arrythmia may be casued by amphetimine use.
> > younguys have a looooonnnnngggg way to go on this subject.
> > frankly yourn ignorance is limiting to the outskirts of Muskogee.
> > try the library.
>
> It can be caused by many things, and also appears as a warning or precaution
> in many drug profiles. Do not jump to the conclusion that it is drug caused.
>
> Your knowledge probably matches your spelling.
my knowledge is extensive, my humor incompare
your reading skills suck: try Adderall mixed with amphetimine and two
blue's
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Date: 06 Aug 2007 14:27:17
From: Bob Martin
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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in 552249 20070806 135152 datakoll <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote:
>On Aug 6, 7:13 am, "mal" <malcolm1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1186367736.967233.160210@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > cadiac arrythmia may be casued by amphetimine use.
>> > younguys have a looooonnnnngggg way to go on this subject.
>> > frankly yourn ignorance is limiting to the outskirts of Muskogee.
>> > try the library.
>>
>> It can be caused by many things, and also appears as a warning or precaution
>> in many drug profiles. Do not jump to the conclusion that it is drug caused.
>>
>> Your knowledge probably matches your spelling.
>
>my knowledge is extensive, my humor incompare
>your reading skills suck: try Adderall mixed with amphetimine and two
>blue's
QED
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 21:55:40
From: Carmine Clamenza
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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Darbepoetin alfa (rINN) (IPA: [d??(?)b?'p??t?n]) is a synthetic form of
erythropoietin. It stimulates erythropoiesis (increases red blood cell
levels) and is used to treat anemia, commonly associated with chronic renal
failure and cancer chemotherapy. Darbepoetin is marketed by Amgen under the
trade name Aranesp.
Like EPO its use increases the risk of cardiovascular problems, including
cardiac arrest, seizures, A-R-R-H-Y-T-H-M-I-A or strokes, hypertension and
hypertensive encephalopathy, congestive heart failure, vascular thrombosis
or ischemia, myocardial infarction and edema.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darbepoetin_alfa
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"Carmine Clamenza" <carmineclamenza@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:Dd3ti.15$4G7.10@newsfe03.lga...
> See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his
> pro career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac
> arrhythmia. Is the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to
> doping? Doesn't the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and
> causes serious vascular problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI
> going to open an investigation into the true cause of Leonardo's victory?
> I will not be surprised if they do.
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> "Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
> the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
> year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of
> the 225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to
> then overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
> straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro
> Valverde (Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital)
> finished around a half-minute back.
>
> The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this
> spring for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to
> build back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."
>
> Source:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/aug07/sansebastian07/?id=results
>
>
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Date: 05 Aug 2007 09:29:22
From: mal
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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Oh, so now you go to Wika - effing - pedia for medical knowledge.
Go to the prescribing information for any legal drug. In a large percentage
of them you will find arrythmia / dysrythmia as a consequence. You will also
find that many drugs cause constipation, and diarrhia.
Go figure.
Read Scott's post again. He appears to be a better source than your googling
wikapedia
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Date: 04 Aug 2007 20:40:47
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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On Aug 4, 1:05 pm, "Carmine Clamenza" <carmineclame...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> See the cyclingnews.com excerpt below. Leonardo Bertagnolli started his =
pro
> career just 6 years ago and recently recovered from cardiac arrhythmia. =
Is
> the UCI wondering if his cardiac arrhythmia is related to doping? Doesn't
> the UCI believe that EPO renders the blood dense and causes serious vascu=
lar
> problems like cardiac arrhythmia? Is the UCI going to open an investigat=
ion
> into the true cause of Leonardo's victory? I will not be surprised if th=
ey
> do.
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> "Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
> the 27th edition of the Cl=E1sica San Sebasti=E1n today in Spain. The 29
> year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of t=
he
> 225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel G=E1rate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to t=
hen
> overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
> straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro Valve=
rde
> (Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital) finished aroun=
d a
> half-minute back.
>
> The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this spri=
ng
> for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to build
> back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."
>
> Source:http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/aug07/sansebastian07/?id=3Dre=
sults
Cardiac arrythmia is not a vascular problem. It's a cardiac problem,
and it may not be a problem at all. Lot's of people have various
forms of arrythmia with no ill effect at all, and it's not caused by
doping.
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Date: 07 Aug 2007 00:29:55
From: Marlene Blanshay
Subject: Re: Leonardo Bertagnolli - Cardiac Arrhythmia - UCI Investigation
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for sure...little kids can have it...old people can have it. It's in the
electrical system of the heart and can be hereditary. He's fortunate
that they were able to treat it...it can go unnoticed and is often the
cause of sudden, mysterious deaths in people who were previously
healthy. WHen it happens to cyclists, who are usually young, we
automatically think doping because nothing shows up in an autopsy, but
arrhtyhmias can't be detected after death. It's not unheard of to be
able to get back to normal once it's treated.
Scott wrote:
> -----------------------------------
>>
>> "Leonardo Bertagnolli has marked a splendid return to his best by winning
>> the 27th edition of the Clásica San Sebastián today in Spain. The 29
>> year-old Italian of Team Liquigas escaped at 11 kilometres remaining of the
>> 225-kilometre race with Juan Manuel Gárate (Quick.Step Innergetic) to then
>> overpower the Spaniard in a head to head sprint on the hot finishing
>> straight along the Bay of Biscay. A small chase headed by Alejandro Valverde
>> (Caisse d'Epargne) and Alessandro Ballan (Lampre-Fondital) finished around a
>> half-minute back.
>>
>> The sixth-year professional from Trento had to stop for a month this spring
>> for what doctors diagnosed as cardiac arrhythmia but he was able to build
>> back to top-form and mark his first win after 17 months."
>>
>> Source:http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/aug07/sansebastian07/?id=results
>
> Cardiac arrythmia is not a vascular problem. It's a cardiac problem,
> and it may not be a problem at all. Lot's of people have various
> forms of arrythmia with no ill effect at all, and it's not caused by
> doping.
>
>
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