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Date: 16 Jul 2007 07:11:17
From: Martin Collett
Subject: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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A small project I've been working on for a friend, http://etapecycle.co.uk/.
Handlebar photos and positions sent back every 5 minutes from today's Etape
du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
Martin
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 12:04:46
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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On Jul 16, 8:01 am, datakoll <datak...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jul 16, 4:57 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
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> > in message <pSEmi.25813$vA3.19...@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Martin Collett
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> > ('j...@junk.com') wrote:
> > > A small project I've been working on for a friend,
> > >http://etapecycle.co.uk/. Handlebar photos and positions sent back every
> > > 5 minutes from today's Etape du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
> > > Martin
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> > Very cool. Congratulations! Can I ask what kit you're using, and how you
> > programmed the auto position sending? I've done a similar thing as a Java
> > Midlet, but I didn't think of adding photos!
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> > --
> > si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
> > There's nae Gods, an there's precious few heroes
> > but there's plenty on the dole in th Land o th Leal;
> > And it's time now, tae sweep the future clear o
> > th lies o a past that we know wis never real.
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> FROM RBT AS A SERIES: THE VOLCANO ASCENT AND ARCHAEOLOGY TOUR IS
> ENTERTAINING:
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> Hi:
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> I would like to share with you the Trackmap (dynamic map of the GPS
> track), altigraphy (altitude profile of the route), geo-referenced
> photographs and a chronicle of the cycling touring: Mexico City -
> Archaeological Site of Huamango (Mex), performed last Sunday February
> 4th, 2007.
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> These results are posted at the following address:
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> http://tinyurl.com/34woe3
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> Hoping this information could be useful, i thank you in advance for
> your attention.
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> Greetings.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
NEWTON WENT ACROSS THE RIVER BUT ONCE?
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 12:01:51
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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On Jul 16, 4:57 am, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
> in message <pSEmi.25813$vA3.19...@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Martin Collett
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> ('j...@junk.com') wrote:
> > A small project I've been working on for a friend,
> >http://etapecycle.co.uk/. Handlebar photos and positions sent back every
> > 5 minutes from today's Etape du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
> > Martin
>
> Very cool. Congratulations! Can I ask what kit you're using, and how you
> programmed the auto position sending? I've done a similar thing as a Java
> Midlet, but I didn't think of adding photos!
>
> --
> si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
> There's nae Gods, an there's precious few heroes
> but there's plenty on the dole in th Land o th Leal;
> And it's time now, tae sweep the future clear o
> th lies o a past that we know wis never real.
FROM RBT AS A SERIES: THE VOLCANO ASCENT AND ARCHAEOLOGY TOUR IS
ENTERTAINING:
Hi:
I would like to share with you the Trackmap (dynamic map of the GPS
track), altigraphy (altitude profile of the route), geo-referenced
photographs and a chronicle of the cycling touring: Mexico City -
Archaeological Site of Huamango (Mex), performed last Sunday February
4th, 2007.
These results are posted at the following address:
http://tinyurl.com/34woe3
Hoping this information could be useful, i thank you in advance for
your attention.
Greetings.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 09:57:53
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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in message <pSEmi.25813$vA3.19895@newsfe2-win.ntli.net >, Martin Collett
('junk@junk.com') wrote:
> A small project I've been working on for a friend,
> http://etapecycle.co.uk/. Handlebar photos and positions sent back every
> 5 minutes from today's Etape du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
> Martin
Very cool. Congratulations! Can I ask what kit you're using, and how you
programmed the auto position sending? I've done a similar thing as a Java
Midlet, but I didn't think of adding photos!
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
There's nae Gods, an there's precious few heroes
but there's plenty on the dole in th Land o th Leal;
And it's time now, tae sweep the future clear o
th lies o a past that we know wis never real.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 15:11:00
From: Martin Collett
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk > wrote in message
news:hhorm4-vv4.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> in message <pSEmi.25813$vA3.19895@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Martin Collett
> ('junk@junk.com') wrote:
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>> A small project I've been working on for a friend,
>> http://etapecycle.co.uk/. Handlebar photos and positions sent back every
>> 5 minutes from today's Etape du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
>> Martin
>
> Very cool. Congratulations! Can I ask what kit you're using, and how you
> programmed the auto position sending? I've done a similar thing as a Java
> Midlet, but I didn't think of adding photos!
Thanks.
I'm using a TraceMe module, kindly donated by the guys at traceme.eu .
It's a dedicated tracker module with a serial linked camera. It has digital
inputs and I always intended to measure cadence too, but we couldn't quite
get our act together to get that working. There has been a long peiod
without data at the top of Port de Bales, I think due to no mobile phone
signal, but normal service is resumed now!
Yes, he did start early - 6.00 UK time, 7.00 in France.
Best,
Martin
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 22:15:23
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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in message <8ULmi.21927$_l6.20258@newsfe6-win.ntli.net >, Martin Collett
('junk@junk.com') wrote:
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> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:hhorm4-vv4.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>> in message <pSEmi.25813$vA3.19895@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, Martin Collett
>> ('junk@junk.com') wrote:
>>
>>> A small project I've been working on for a friend,
>>> http://etapecycle.co.uk/. Handlebar photos and positions sent back
>>> every 5 minutes from today's Etape du Tour, hope it's relevant here.
>>> Martin
>>
>> Very cool. Congratulations! Can I ask what kit you're using, and how you
>> programmed the auto position sending? I've done a similar thing as a
>> Java Midlet, but I didn't think of adding photos!
>
> Thanks.
> I'm using a TraceMe module, kindly donated by the guys at traceme.eu .
> It's a dedicated tracker module with a serial linked camera.
Yes, having asked the question I went and found the answer from your
website. How much does it weigh? I'm using an HP IPAQ 6515, which weighs
168 grammes 'bare' or 370 in an Otterbox enclosure - including GPS,
camera, battery and, obviously, GPRS phone. I'm not sure how the battery
would stand up to one picture every five minutes for ten hours, though.
One problem is that I haven't found a way of turning the backlight off
while a Midlet is running.
> It has
> digital inputs and I always intended to measure cadence too, but we
> couldn't quite get our act together to get that working.
It would be very cool to do full telemetry - cadence, gear selection,
power. Speed and rate of climb/descent should be capable of being There's
a bluetooth speed and cadence sensor module available from these people:
http://soundofmotion.com/somo/products.jsp
but I've no idea what the battery life is like or whether it's any good.
Garmin do a GPS unit with speed and cadence pick-up, but I don't know
whether you can interrogate these over NMEA.
Still, all this stuff is coming, and within ten years people will think
nothing of going for a ride and coming home to find all their performance
data already logged and analysed.
> There has been a
> long peiod without data at the top of Port de Bales, I think due to no
> mobile phone signal, but normal service is resumed now!
Were you using http over GPRS to send the pictures, or were you
using 'multi media messaging'?
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
'graveyards are full of indispensable people'
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 08:28:16
From: Martin Collett
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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> Yes, having asked the question I went and found the answer from your
> website. How much does it weigh? I'm using an HP IPAQ 6515, which weighs
> 168 grammes 'bare' or 370 in an Otterbox enclosure - including GPS,
> camera, battery and, obviously, GPRS phone. I'm not sure how the battery
> would stand up to one picture every five minutes for ten hours, though.
> One problem is that I haven't found a way of turning the backlight off
> while a Midlet is running.
>
>> It has
>> digital inputs and I always intended to measure cadence too, but we
>> couldn't quite get our act together to get that working.
>
> It would be very cool to do full telemetry - cadence, gear selection,
> power. Speed and rate of climb/descent should be capable of being There's
> a bluetooth speed and cadence sensor module available from these people:
> http://soundofmotion.com/somo/products.jsp
> but I've no idea what the battery life is like or whether it's any good.
> Garmin do a GPS unit with speed and cadence pick-up, but I don't know
> whether you can interrogate these over NMEA.
>
> Still, all this stuff is coming, and within ten years people will think
> nothing of going for a ride and coming home to find all their performance
> data already logged and analysed.
>
>> There has been a
>> long peiod without data at the top of Port de Bales, I think due to no
>> mobile phone signal, but normal service is resumed now!
>
> Were you using http over GPRS to send the pictures, or were you
> using 'multi media messaging'?
>
> --
> simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> 'graveyards are full of indispensable people'
>
It weighs about 230 grams, including a 1300mAh LiPo battery. It was tucked
into a small cycle bag fixed on top of the crossbars - it sent photos for
about 16 hours before the battery died - I have a fine selection taken
inside the trailer as the bikes returned to the start...
The cadence sensor looks interesting, might be the way to go for the next
run, I need to figure how I'd convert the Bluetooth signal back into TTL
levels at the TraceMe box.
All the data is sent back http, I'm guessing MMS would be more expensive.
I'm not sure how you'd receive MMS at the server either - would that be
straightforward, I guess they'd end up coming in as emails?
Martin
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 16:04:51
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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in message <A4%mi.34010$nE2.369@newsfe3-win.ntli.net >, Martin Collett
('junk@junk.com') wrote:
>> Yes, having asked the question I went and found the answer from your
>> website. How much does it weigh? I'm using an HP IPAQ 6515, which weighs
>> 168 grammes 'bare' or 370 in an Otterbox enclosure - including GPS,
>> camera, battery and, obviously, GPRS phone. I'm not sure how the battery
>> would stand up to one picture every five minutes for ten hours, though.
>> One problem is that I haven't found a way of turning the backlight off
>> while a Midlet is running.
>>
>>> It has
>>> digital inputs and I always intended to measure cadence too, but we
>>> couldn't quite get our act together to get that working.
>>
>> It would be very cool to do full telemetry - cadence, gear selection,
>> power. Speed and rate of climb/descent should be capable of being
>> There's a bluetooth speed and cadence sensor module available from these
>> people: http://soundofmotion.com/somo/products.jsp
>> but I've no idea what the battery life is like or whether it's any good.
>> Garmin do a GPS unit with speed and cadence pick-up, but I don't know
>> whether you can interrogate these over NMEA.
>>
>> Still, all this stuff is coming, and within ten years people will think
>> nothing of going for a ride and coming home to find all their
>> performance data already logged and analysed.
>>
>>> There has been a
>>> long peiod without data at the top of Port de Bales, I think due to no
>>> mobile phone signal, but normal service is resumed now!
>>
>> Were you using http over GPRS to send the pictures, or were you
>> using 'multi media messaging'?
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> It weighs about 230 grams, including a 1300mAh LiPo battery. It was
> tucked into a small cycle bag fixed on top of the crossbars - it sent
> photos for about 16 hours before the battery died - I have a fine
> selection taken inside the trailer as the bikes returned to the start...
Cool!
That's a good weight for the performance, too - the photos of the box on
the maker's website made it look quite chunky.
> The cadence sensor looks interesting, might be the way to go for the next
> run, I need to figure how I'd convert the Bluetooth signal back into TTL
> levels at the TraceMe box.
> All the data is sent back http, I'm guessing MMS would be more expensive.
> I'm not sure how you'd receive MMS at the server either - would that be
> straightforward, I guess they'd end up coming in as emails?
No, I don't know how you'd do it either, I'm using HTTP. And I'm guessing
that HTTP over GPRS is going to come out cheaper than MMS anyway.
I'd be interested to know what hardware/software T-Mobile are using for the
live telemetry feeds they've got from a number of tour riders' bikes.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 17:24:16
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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Martin Collett wrote:
> Yes, he did start early - 6.00 UK time, 7.00 in France.
Right, 7 sounds easier to survive than 6..
I'd've thought it would make more sense to display local times. Nice
page though.
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E. Dronkert
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 19:00:35
From: Martin Collett
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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> Martin Collett wrote:
>> Yes, he did start early - 6.00 UK time, 7.00 in France.
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> Right, 7 sounds easier to survive than 6..
> I'd've thought it would make more sense to display local times. Nice
> page though.
>
>
> --
> E. Dronkert
Thanks. The page was sort of aimed at a UK audience, you're right though, I
should
have made the times a bit clearer.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 09:51:49
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Live tracking of Etape du Tour cyclist
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Martin Collett wrote:
> A small project I've been working on for a friend, http://etapecycle.co.uk/.
> Handlebar photos and positions sent back every 5 minutes from today's Etape
Start at 6! Bloody hell. I would have taken the time for café au lait
and croissant... Or are times on the photos BST?
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E. Dronkert
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