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Date: 26 Dec 2006 17:38:40
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Subject: MI5 Persecution: the BBC, television and radio
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The first incident in June 1990 was when a BBC newsreader made what seemed
to be a reaction to something which had happened in my home, and out of
context of what they were reading. My first reaction was disbelief; nothing
of the sort had ever happened before, the idea that such a thing could
occur had not crossed my mind, yet there was no doubt of what had just
taken place. My disbelief eroded as this recurred time after time. Besides
the news, offenders included shows such as Crimewatch (!), Newsnight, and
"entertainment" shows. There seems to be very little moral understanding
among the people who make these programmes; they just assume they will
never be caught, so they carry on without a thought for the illegality or
amorality of what they do. The only time I ever heard a word raised in
doubt was by Paxman being interviewed by someone else (I think by Clive
Anderson) back in 1990; referring to the "watching" he said it troubled
him, and when asked by the host what you could do about it, replied "Well,
you could just switch it off" (meaning the surveillance monitor in the
studio). He clearly didn't let his doubts stand in the way of continued
surreptitious spying from his own or other people's shows, though.
Now you're convinced this is a troll, aren't you? This story has been the
subject of much debate on the uk.* Usenet newsgroups for over a year, and
some readers believe it to be an invention (it has even been suggested that
a group of psychology students are responsible!), others think it
symptomatic of a derangement of the author, and a few give it credence.
Quite a few people do know part or all of the story already, so this text
will fill in the gaps in their knowledge. For the rest, what may persuade
you of the third possibility is that some of the incidents detailed are
checkable against any archives of radio and TV programmes that exist; that
the incidents involve named people (even if those hiding in the shadows
have not made their identity or affiliations evident), and those people
may be persuaded to come out with the truth; and that the campaign of
harassment is continuing today both in the UK and on the American
continent, in a none-too-secret fashion; by its nature the significant risk
of exposure increases with time.
On several occasions people said to my face that harassment from the TV was
happening. On the first day I worked in Oxford, I spent the evening in the
local pub with the company's technical director Ian, and Phil, another
employee. Ian made a few references to me and said to Phil, as if in an
aside, "Is he the bloke who's been on TV?" to which Phil replied, "Yes, I
think so".
I made a number of efforts to find the bugs, without success; last year we
employed professional counter-surveillance people to scan for bugs (see
later) again without result. In autumn 1990 I disposed of my TV and watched
virtually no television for the next three years. But harassment from TV
stations has gone on for over six years and continues to this day. This is
something that many people obviously know is happening; yet the TV staff
have the morality of paedophiles, that because they're getting away with it
they feel no wrong.
Other people who were involved in the abuse in 1990 were DJs on BBC radio
stations, notably disc jockeys from Radio 1 and other stations (see the
following section). Again, since they don't have sense in the first place
they can't be expect to have the moral sense not to be part of criminal
harassment.
801
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Date: 26 Dec 2006 14:22:51
From: nobody
Subject: Re: drug testing
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:25:47 GMT, k & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com > wrote:
>nobody wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:57:24 -0500, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>nobody wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:28:35 -0500, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>nobody wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:09:38 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
>>>>>><MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lab tech's also get tested. Daily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seriously? What are they testing for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hospital or patient care techs have to pass stringent competency tests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It may be that the competency for 'non-medical treatment oriented' testing
>>>>>>has a lesser standard. I mean you blow the steroid test and nobody dies
>>>>>>(mostly). You blow the blood glucose and some patient could die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Having said that, many labs go for six sigma and other hard to get
>>>>>>certifications that's even a step above that. That's usually GM practices
>>>>>>and this lab isn't manufacturing anything. There's also ISO-9000, ISO-1400
>>>>>>and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the lab is internationally used/known, it shouldn't be hard to find out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I was Floyd's lawyer I'd be looking into who certs them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, people never die because of medical malpractice even though a
>>>>>Harvard study published in JAMA said that medical malpractice kills over
>>>>>10,000 patients a year.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Magilla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Having never worked in a hospital, you're going by smell, right?
>>>>
>>>>Try 98K. (NCC MERP statistic)
>>>>
>>>>See, I didn't even have to call you a name. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Truth is it's probably really 10x that.
>>>>
>>>>Majority is not lab. It's wrong meds, bad anesthesia. It's an art, not a
>>>>science after all. (semi-sarcastic).
>>>
>>>
>>>See, it's even worse than the conservative figure of 10,000 I threw out
>>>there. So why should we hold WADA to a higher standard than real
>>>hospitals?
>>>
>>>Magilla
>>
>>
>> Medicine is an art. Lab work a science.
>>
>
>
> Ever hear of "massaging the numbers"?
>
>Steve
I've heard that if the MD causes the patient's demise on the OR table they
take them to the recovery room first and call the death there. That way
there's no tie up of OR facilities. "Next". ;-)
It's not uncommon for scientists to seriously fudge data for research
proposals, to make their data fit, to get new funding. Now and then there
are serious scandals. Often, rather than tarnish the School, they sweep it
under the rug. They'll fire whistle blowers before they trash a golden cow.
That's nothing new. However it's held to the scientific method in
principle. There's no such thing in the "practice of Medicine". There are
principled researchers and there are frauds. What are you going to do?
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Date: 26 Dec 2006 19:25:56
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld
Subject: Re: drug testing
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nobody wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:25:47 GMT, k & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
>
>>nobody wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:57:24 -0500, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>nobody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:28:35 -0500, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>nobody wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:09:38 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
>>>>>>><MikeJ@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Lab tech's also get tested. Daily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seriously? What are they testing for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hospital or patient care techs have to pass stringent competency tests.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It may be that the competency for 'non-medical treatment oriented' testing
>>>>>>>has a lesser standard. I mean you blow the steroid test and nobody dies
>>>>>>>(mostly). You blow the blood glucose and some patient could die.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having said that, many labs go for six sigma and other hard to get
>>>>>>>certifications that's even a step above that. That's usually GM practices
>>>>>>>and this lab isn't manufacturing anything. There's also ISO-9000, ISO-1400
>>>>>>>and so on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If the lab is internationally used/known, it shouldn't be hard to find out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I was Floyd's lawyer I'd be looking into who certs them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah, people never die because of medical malpractice even though a
>>>>>>Harvard study published in JAMA said that medical malpractice kills over
>>>>>>10,000 patients a year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Magilla
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Having never worked in a hospital, you're going by smell, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Try 98K. (NCC MERP statistic)
>>>>>
>>>>>See, I didn't even have to call you a name. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Truth is it's probably really 10x that.
>>>>>
>>>>>Majority is not lab. It's wrong meds, bad anesthesia. It's an art, not a
>>>>>science after all. (semi-sarcastic).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>See, it's even worse than the conservative figure of 10,000 I threw out
>>>>there. So why should we hold WADA to a higher standard than real
>>>>hospitals?
>>>>
>>>>Magilla
>>>
>>>
>>>Medicine is an art. Lab work a science.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ever hear of "massaging the numbers"?
>>
>>Steve
>
>
> I've heard that if the MD causes the patient's demise on the OR table they
> take them to the recovery room first and call the death there. That way
> there's no tie up of OR facilities. "Next". ;-)
>
> It's not uncommon for scientists to seriously fudge data for research
> proposals, to make their data fit, to get new funding. Now and then there
> are serious scandals. Often, rather than tarnish the School, they sweep it
> under the rug. They'll fire whistle blowers before they trash a golden cow.
>
> That's nothing new. However it's held to the scientific method in
> principle. There's no such thing in the "practice of Medicine". There are
> principled researchers and there are frauds. What are you going to do?
>
>
Principle is a wonderful thing. ;-)
I have no magic answer, that's for sure. G White figures Darwin will
sort this all out, no regulation required. I guess we could wait for a
giant meteor, like the dinosaurs.
Steve
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k & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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