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Date: 17 Nov 2007 19:23:48
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Subject: MI5 Persecution: tinker tailor wanker thief 2/12/00 (21139)
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Crescent Grove, Clapham Common (2/Dec/2000)
Certainty level: 100%
This is one of those clips where I am absolutely, 100% certain it's
inflicted by MI5 on me, because of background, context. On Saturday
2 December 2000, I was walking from my home to a pub on Clapham Common,
and on the way was in proximity to a group of three English youths
who were walking the other way. They turned from the main road into a
private estate called Crescent Grove. Here is what they said;
(first youth) "He masturbates!"
(his mate responds) "Yeah, he masturbates!"
(and again) "Thief!"
There is a lot of context associated with this incident, which I will now
relate.
Firstly, the verbal sexual abuse is a popular one with MI5, and as a statement
about me is currently mostly in their imaginations. The accusation has to be seen
relative to MI5's persecutory actions in late November and early December 2000,
and in fact for some months leading up to this. Their relevant activities in
June 2000 are documented in a message in this evidence item;
following from that, they sent someone to simulate an act in front of my window,
which was captured on film.
It is the publication of the video of their agent performing the act on himself
which caused MI5 to restart this thread of harassment in the first few days of
December 2000. But there are some subtleties; I uploaded the digitised video
to this website on 26/November/2000; but I did not announce its existence on the
newsgroups until Sunday 3/December/2000. These youths' slur was made the previous
day, on Saturday 2/Dec. That tells us quite a lot. According to my website logs,
there were no accesses to the video file before Sunday 3/Dec. So why did MI5 restart
this particular thread of abuse, before their agent's activities were
published on the newsgroup? The conclusion we reach is that they were watching my
internet connection, either decoding the telephone line, or at the ISP; and/or they
may be able to physically see what is on my notebook computer's screen, from
RF transmissions from its VGA circuitry. I do not know whether the latter is
technically feasible, but the former certainly is, and I have known for years
that MI5 bugs my internet activities and phone calls. It is from their observation
of my internet connection that they were able to tell, without accessing the
video file over the net, that it was of their agent in a compromising position;
and it was from that observation that their shouted slur on 2/Dec emanates.
The second accusation, "Thief!", is even more interesting. It relates to occurrences
from June of 2000, some six months before these youths threw the word at me. It shows
just how wide in reach geographically and temporally the MI5 persecution is;
they react to something which happened half a year previously.
In the first half of 2000, MI5 made a determined assault on my friendships. In one
particular case, that of A. whom I had known for virtually all my life, they partly
succeeded. This person made pointed references to me which made it clear he knew
what was happening; at one point he started asking "do you know anything about the
FBI and the CIA". In June 2000, we went to see a film in the West End. I paid for
both of us, and then asked him to return what I had paid for his ticket, some £7.50.
He was reluctant to do so. Eventually he returned £5, settling for the lesser gain of £2.50.
I did not call him a thief to his face, but I may have spoken the word while I was
at home, either conscious or in my sleep. MI5 have very tight control over everything
I do and say in my home through their bugs; if I say anything against someone in
"their" camp, they turn round the accusation against me. So, from the fact that A.
tried to garner a few pounds at my expense, MI5 create the accusation, six months
later..... "thief!".
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 15:54:14
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
>
> The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
> space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
Want to compare W2's?
> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
> prove it.
Well, at least you've got a little more guts than most of the others
preaching science around here. That still only puts you on a level playing
field with most of the smart guys here.
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 12:02:52
From: Michael A. Terrell
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
> >
> > The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
> > space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
>
> Want to compare W2's?
Sure! Mine is zero. I was recently declared 100% disabled, and the
VA doesn't provide a W2.
> > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
> > prove it.
>
> Well, at least you've got a little more guts than most of the others
> preaching science around here. That still only puts you on a level playing
> field with most of the smart guys here.
I have had several EEs want to know why I don't have a degree, after
I not only pointed out design flaws, but documented them, and wrote up a
solution, along with either a in house stock number, or a proposed
vendor to supply the needed components. My title was Production Test
Technician, but I worked in every area of the company, except
accounting, sales and shipping. The last job I was assigned, was to work
with a team of engineers to take a prototype of an $80,000 DSP based
telemetry package from them, and prepare it for manufacturing. I was
part of the team that built a communications system for the ISS, and a
complete turn key earth station for NOAA to track their LEO satellites.
I have worked as a broadcast engineer in AM & TV, and built one station
from scratch.
As far as science and faith, I am a Christian, and I have my battles
with those who make silly claims about the bible that they claim
contradict science. I wrote a sci-fi trilogy about 20 years ago,
because I couldn't find anything worth reading. Someone demanded to
know how I could do it in "good faith", because the bible stated that
there was no other life in the universe. I asked for the book, chapter
and verse they were referring to. It's been 20 yeas, and they still
haven't found their proof.
Just because there is no design for an inter-galactic space ship in
the bible, that doesn't make it anti-science. :)
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 15:04:46
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:4740703B.9D6B269B@earthlink.net...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
>> >
>> > The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
>> > space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
>>
>> Want to compare W2's?
>
> Sure! Mine is zero. I was recently declared 100% disabled, and the
> VA doesn't provide a W2.
Sorry to hear you're disabled Michael. But what would make you write
something like that?
> I have had several EEs want to know why I don't have a degree, after
> I not only pointed out design flaws, but documented them, and wrote up a
> solution, along with either a in house stock number, or a proposed
> vendor to supply the needed components. My title was Production Test
> Technician, but I worked in every area of the company, except
> accounting, sales and shipping.
Would it surprise you to learn that I had a similar history and have been a
non-degreed engineer for some 30 years?
> As far as science and faith, I am a Christian, and I have my battles
> with those who make silly claims about the bible that they claim
> contradict science. I wrote a sci-fi trilogy about 20 years ago,
> because I couldn't find anything worth reading. Someone demanded to
> know how I could do it in "good faith", because the bible stated that
> there was no other life in the universe. I asked for the book, chapter
> and verse they were referring to. It's been 20 yeas, and they still
> haven't found their proof.
>
> Just because there is no design for an inter-galactic space ship in
> the bible, that doesn't make it anti-science. :)
I was raised a Catholic but haven't really followed religion since my teens.
I haven't found anything in science that contradicts religion and even
Einstein said as much himself. But then these fools around here that don't
have the background to understand the disputed differences still claim that
science has "facts" behind it. I wonder what they would think if they
actually understood the science they were discussing.
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 22:53:28
From: Michael A. Terrell
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4740703B.9D6B269B@earthlink.net...
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
> >> >
> >> > The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
> >> > space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
> >>
> >> Want to compare W2's?
> >
> > Sure! Mine is zero. I was recently declared 100% disabled, and the
> > VA doesn't provide a W2.
>
> Sorry to hear you're disabled Michael. But what would make you write
> something like that?
Because its a fact of my life that I am still trying to adjust to.
Also, it can happen to any of us, at any time.
I never planned for retirement, but ended up 100% disabled at 52.
The VA awarded the 100% disability in less than two weeks from the date
I filed, and their paperwork states: "It is obvious that this individual
will never be able to work, again." :(
I used to spend eight hours at my full time job, five or six days a
week, and at least another 40 hours working in my home shop on all kinds
of projects. Now, I'm lucky to spend two hours a day at anything.
> > I have had several EEs want to know why I don't have a degree, after
> > I not only pointed out design flaws, but documented them, and wrote up a
> > solution, along with either a in house stock number, or a proposed
> > vendor to supply the needed components. My title was Production Test
> > Technician, but I worked in every area of the company, except
> > accounting, sales and shipping.
>
> Would it surprise you to learn that I had a similar history and have been a
> non-degreed engineer for some 30 years?
Not at all. I've met a lot of people with a similar background. I
tested out of a three year electronics course while in basic training,
and was awarded the US Army equivalent of a first class FCC license. I
was told that I had the highest score on record at Ft Knox for that MOS
test.
There used to be quite a few people who taught themselves enough
electronics to do design work, but all we have today are video game
players and losers who write virii.
> > As far as science and faith, I am a Christian, and I have my battles
> > with those who make silly claims about the bible that they claim
> > contradict science. I wrote a sci-fi trilogy about 20 years ago,
> > because I couldn't find anything worth reading. Someone demanded to
> > know how I could do it in "good faith", because the bible stated that
> > there was no other life in the universe. I asked for the book, chapter
> > and verse they were referring to. It's been 20 yeas, and they still
> > haven't found their proof.
> >
> > Just because there is no design for an inter-galactic space ship in
> > the bible, that doesn't make it anti-science. :)
>
> I was raised a Catholic but haven't really followed religion since my teens.
> I haven't found anything in science that contradicts religion and even
> Einstein said as much himself. But then these fools around here that don't
> have the background to understand the disputed differences still claim that
> science has "facts" behind it. I wonder what they would think if they
> actually understood the science they were discussing.
Their minds are closed so they don't have to think, only rant and
prove what nut cases they are. All they do is spew the crap their small
minds are made of, while proving they don't have an original thought
more than once a year.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 16:49:56
From: Dan
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> I was raised a Catholic but haven't really followed religion since my
> teens. I haven't found anything in science that contradicts religion and
> even Einstein said as much himself. But then these fools around here
> that don't have the background to understand the disputed differences
> still claim that science has "facts" behind it. I wonder what they would
> think if they actually understood the science they were discussing.
>
They are people deluded by pseudoreligonist politicians or good old
fashioned con men (the difference is that con men want to enrich
themselves, politicians want the power garnered by having people in
their thrall).
Dan
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 19:38:47
From: Ed Huntress
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message
news:13juvp9d6rcp4a2@corp.supernews.com...
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
>>
>> The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
>> space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
>
> Want to compare W2's?
Wait, wait. You've read all the books in a half-dozen libraries, and you
hold down a job?
Let's see...the average small-town library holds 35,000 volumes (2.8 per
capita, in case your town is very small; the average university library
holds 384,000, but we'll cut you a break here). Without knowing your age,
let's say you're 63 and you started reading at adult speed at age 3. You
read seven days/week. That means you have to read an average of 9.6 books
per day.
Are you a nuclear-plant security guard, by any chance? d8-)
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Ed Huntress
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 18:45:07
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net > wrote in message
news:pQL%i.3328$6S2.1001@newsfe09.lga...
>
>
> Let's see...the average small-town library holds 35,000 volumes
Let's just say that you're out of your league and I suggest you learn
something other than stupidity. Small libraries with 1000 volumes are the
rule EVERYWHERE. And there are many large libraries now that don't hardly
have that many books. Seems the information age has made books not very
stylish.
But keep trying. I'll bet that someday you'll learn that you aren't as smart
as you thought you were.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 22:03:56
From: Ed Huntress
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote in message
news:13jv9plbp1rr60e@corp.supernews.com...
> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:pQL%i.3328$6S2.1001@newsfe09.lga...
>>
>>
>> Let's see...the average small-town library holds 35,000 volumes
>
> Let's just say that you're out of your league and I suggest you learn
> something other than stupidity. Small libraries with 1000 volumes are the
> rule EVERYWHERE.
I don't quote figures like that unless I've done my homework first, Tom. You
should have clarified that you're talking about really *teeny* libraries.
<g >
The 2.8 per capita figure for public libraries comes the National Center for
Education Statistics. The number actually is closer to 2.9 if you round up:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/quarterly/Vol_4/4_3/5_1.asp
If you really get your dander up and want to see the details, they're here:
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2002/2002344.pdf
You'll note (page 61) that the smallest category of municipal libraries,
those in towns and villages of less than 1000 population, have an average of
8,464 books in their collections.
So, I don't know where you get your "1000 volumes" figure. I had roughly
that number in my home before I cleaned house a few years ago.
Well, that's not accurate. I *do* know where you got your 1000 volumes
figure: you pulled it out of your ass. d8-)
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Ed Huntress
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 22:06:50
From: Martin H. Eastburn
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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A lot of very small town areas have branches. Felton Lib. was a branch
of Santa Cruz (county I believe). I had many more books than it and
a wide subject matter. Our collection is still expanding (ugh) and will
very likely be donated to our local Friends of the library which get good
books for the shelves and sell the rest in book sales in order to buy books.
For myself, the library has a killer building, it being a gift from a very
wealthy person with vision. The books within (we are "Friends of the Library")
a goodly child and young person - where the money goes - and next a massive
romance novel selection - way down on the list is tech or even crafts.
With a farming / ranching / oil service / welding / foundry(ies) area there
is a distinct lack of books for those people. Likely the least likely to
go for help I suppose. Sad. I think the trades and Crafts should be strong
if only in book for those of us who do can find out how to do it. If trades
are being scrapped from colleges (2 yr) and out of High School (every boy is a
rocket scientist) then who will know how to do anything in 50 years ?
With luck these strange and archaic looking text messages will be available
in some form for those who search for them.
With luck someone - Google or the like will archive them on glass disks or
from medium to new medium along with the billion or so web sites they have.
Martin (Have yet to put in our last book - 'Book Collection' program
" The complete Idiot's guide to: Improving your Memory") Hummmmmm
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/
Ed Huntress wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
> news:13jv9plbp1rr60e@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:pQL%i.3328$6S2.1001@newsfe09.lga...
>>>
>>> Let's see...the average small-town library holds 35,000 volumes
>> Let's just say that you're out of your league and I suggest you learn
>> something other than stupidity. Small libraries with 1000 volumes are the
>> rule EVERYWHERE.
>
> I don't quote figures like that unless I've done my homework first, Tom. You
> should have clarified that you're talking about really *teeny* libraries.
> <g>
>
> The 2.8 per capita figure for public libraries comes the National Center for
> Education Statistics. The number actually is closer to 2.9 if you round up:
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/programs/quarterly/Vol_4/4_3/5_1.asp
>
> If you really get your dander up and want to see the details, they're here:
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2002/2002344.pdf
>
> You'll note (page 61) that the smallest category of municipal libraries,
> those in towns and villages of less than 1000 population, have an average of
> 8,464 books in their collections.
>
> So, I don't know where you get your "1000 volumes" figure. I had roughly
> that number in my home before I cleaned house a few years ago.
>
> Well, that's not accurate. I *do* know where you got your 1000 volumes
> figure: you pulled it out of your ass. d8-)
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2007 21:19:45
From: jeff
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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Ed Huntress wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
> news:13jv9plbp1rr60e@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Ed Huntress" <huntres23@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:pQL%i.3328$6S2.1001@newsfe09.lga...
>>>
>>> Let's see...the average small-town library holds 35,000 volumes
>> Let's just say that you're out of your league and I suggest you learn
>> something other than stupidity. Small libraries with 1000 volumes are the
>> rule EVERYWHERE.
>
> I don't quote figures like that unless I've done my homework first, Tom. You
> should have clarified that you're talking about really *teeny* libraries.
> <g>
>
> The 2.8 per capita figure for public libraries comes the National Center for
> Education Statistics. The number actually is closer to 2.9 if you round up:
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/programs/quarterly/Vol_4/4_3/5_1.asp
>
> If you really get your dander up and want to see the details, they're here:
>
> http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2002/2002344.pdf
>
> You'll note (page 61) that the smallest category of municipal libraries,
> those in towns and villages of less than 1000 population, have an average of
> 8,464 books in their collections.
>
> So, I don't know where you get your "1000 volumes" figure. I had roughly
> that number in my home before I cleaned house a few years ago.
>
> Well, that's not accurate. I *do* know where you got your 1000 volumes
> figure: you pulled it out of your ass. d8-)
>
I'll bet that's how many books were in the "library" at the back of the
class room when he graduated sixth grade.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 18:45:39
From: Ed Huntress
Subject: Re: Checkmate, Atheists!
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:473F75F4.FC8E421F@earthlink.net...
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
>> news:13ju1r2arq3ie9a@corp.supernews.com...
>> > <EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>
>> >> That's a pretty big subject. Maybe you shoud read a book or somethig?
>> >
>> > I have read all the books in about a half dozen libraries. I have
>> > several
>> > hundred books in my home. I have gotten rid of thousands of books as
>> > well.
>> >
>>
>> Ha-ha! Which ones did you get rid of?
>
>
> The one's that he'd already colored? After all, there isn't much
> space on the refrigerator to stick all of them.
LOL! That makes more sense. I wondered how he had time to eat and sleep if
he'd read all the books in six libraries. Perhaps they were the pre-school
type.
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