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Date: 21 Mar 2007 23:44:14
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Milan - San Remo '07
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Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
there's not much reason to think this year will be any different. Boonen seems like an
obvious choice, but I think he's probably aiming to win Paris - Roubaix again, so I
doubt he'll put out that last bit of effort to win M-SR. Bettini's had a few too many
crashes this year, some quite recently, so I doubt he'll be as fit as he needs to be.
Pozzato had a nice win last year and already one good win this year, so he could be a
good choice. There just aren't that many guys who can still power out a good sprint at
the end of a 296km race. So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 14:28:49
From: bjorn
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 9:40 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 21, 10:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
>
> Boonen
I was gonna go with Boonen, too. But that was before I read that
Pozzato will be hard to catch:
http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2722
bjorn
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 08:34:16
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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In article
<1174685329.643454.259900@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"bjorn" <procyclingpress@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 22, 9:40 am, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On 21, 10:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Boonen
>
> I was gonna go with Boonen, too. But that was before I read that
> Pozzato will be hard to catch:
>
> http://www.procycling.com/news.aspx?ID=2722
"The mercury coloured paint used on the bike was developed
for Ferrari, and costs ¤1000 per litre. "
Still less than erytropoeitin.
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Michael Press
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 11:11:10
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 23, 12:32 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On 22, 9:34 am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 22, 1:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-
>
> > So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
>
> > Put me down for McEwen
>
> dumbass,
>
> i just watched the opening stage of tirreno and McEwen (led out by a
> teamate) broke away around 500m and two turns before the finish,
> opening up a lead of a few seconds. i didn't see if he was counter-
> steering though.
Has Mackie Wen ever won a sprint at the end of a really
long race? Long tour stages don't count (in my mind)
unless they were going reasonably hard, which they often
aren't in the long ones. I haven't checked but IIRC
Milan-San Remo is rather longer than a long flat Tour
stage. Not to disrespect McEwen, I just think it's a
slightly different set of aptitudes.
Zabel has a cold, so I think it's Bennati's year.
Ben
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 08:35:44
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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In article
<1174673469.988201.93650@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:
> On 23, 12:32 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 22, 9:34 am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 22, 1:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-
> >
> > > So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
> >
> > > Put me down for McEwen
> >
> > dumbass,
> >
> > i just watched the opening stage of tirreno and McEwen (led out by a
> > teamate) broke away around 500m and two turns before the finish,
> > opening up a lead of a few seconds. i didn't see if he was counter-
> > steering though.
>
> Has Mackie Wen ever won a sprint at the end of a really
> long race? Long tour stages don't count (in my mind)
> unless they were going reasonably hard, which they often
> aren't in the long ones. I haven't checked but IIRC
> Milan-San Remo is rather longer than a long flat Tour
> stage. Not to disrespect McEwen, I just think it's a
> slightly different set of aptitudes.
>
> Zabel has a cold, so I think it's Bennati's year.
Is that a "cold" or a garden variety rhino-virus?
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 16:45:52
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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In article <1174673469.988201.93650@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:
> On 23, 12:32 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 22, 9:34 am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 22, 1:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-
> >
> > > So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
> >
> > > Put me down for McEwen
> >
> > dumbass,
> >
> > i just watched the opening stage of tirreno and McEwen (led out by a
> > teamate) broke away around 500m and two turns before the finish,
> > opening up a lead of a few seconds. i didn't see if he was counter-
> > steering though.
>
> Has Mackie Wen ever won a sprint at the end of a really
> long race? Long tour stages don't count (in my mind)
> unless they were going reasonably hard, which they often
> aren't in the long ones. I haven't checked but IIRC
> Milan-San Remo is rather longer than a long flat Tour
> stage. Not to disrespect McEwen, I just think it's a
> slightly different set of aptitudes.
The longer Tour stages are typically mountain stages where he isn't a
factor. I can't recall a recent TdF stage being even close to 296km (as
M-SR is), especially one that ended in a field sprint. It *is* a different
set of aptitudes. Zabel was good at that kind of thing (a big sprint at
the end of a crazy long race), now guys like Boonen, O'Grady, Friere and
Petacchi are good at it. Robbie McEwen, not so much.
--
tanx,
Howard
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 20:02:01
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Bennati
Ignatiev.
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E. Dronkert
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 23:30:29
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> Bennati
>
> Ignatiev.
>
>
Nice pick, but this is a hard race, it seems, to win w/o any experience.
Dan
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 01:36:17
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > wrote in message
news:oqZMh.2270$u03.506@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>>> Bennati
>>
>> Ignatiev.
>
> Nice pick, but this is a hard race, it seems, to win w/o any experience.
Except that kid has looked like an early Eddy Merckx so far.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 23:22:35
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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"Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote in message
news:46042433$0$323$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> Bennati
>
> Ignatiev.
Leave it to Ed to be the only one paying attention.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 15:26:04
From: Wayne Pein
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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Small break gets clear on the Poggio.
Schumacher.
Wayne
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 18:29:47
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On Fri, 23 2007 15:26:04 -0400, Wayne Pein <wpein@nc.rr.com >
wrote:
>Small break gets clear on the Poggio.
>
>Schumacher.
Good pick.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 00:32:07
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 9:34 am, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On 22, 1:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-
>
> So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
>
>
>
> > --
> > tanx,
> > Howard
>
> Put me down for McEwen
dumbass,
i just watched the opening stage of tirreno and McEwen (led out by a
teamate) broke away around 500m and two turns before the finish,
opening up a lead of a few seconds. i didn't see if he was counter-
steering though.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 16:24:15
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 1:39 pm, "RicodJour" <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On 22, 12:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 21, 10:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
> > > Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
> > > there's not much reason to think this year will be any different. Boonen seems like an
> > > obvious choice, but I think he's probably aiming to win Paris - Roubaix again, so I
> > > doubt he'll put out that last bit of effort to win M-SR. Bettini's had a few too many
> > > crashes this year, some quite recently, so I doubt he'll be as fit as he needs to be.
> > > Pozzato had a nice win last year and already one good win this year, so he could be a
> > > good choice. There just aren't that many guys who can still power out a good sprint at
> > > the end of a 296km race. So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
>
> > You guys are all a bunch of Dumbasses -
>
> > Boonen
>
> Gee, you're really going out on a limb with that one.
>
> If you give me some odds, I'll take Haedo in a mass sprint.
>
> Booooooneeeennnnnnn! would sound too much like
> Goooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllll!!! and that's old.
>
> Haaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Eeeeeeeedooooo! sounds vaguely samurai-ish
> and would be far more fun for viewer and announcer alike.
>
> R
>
> RBR Phonetically Chosen Betting Specialist, 1st Class
I was going to say Ballan but he's hurting; I'll go with Alessandro
Petacchi.
Andre
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 10:39:04
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 12:40 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> On 21, 10:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
>
> > Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
> > there's not much reason to think this year will be any different. Boonen seems like an
> > obvious choice, but I think he's probably aiming to win Paris - Roubaix again, so I
> > doubt he'll put out that last bit of effort to win M-SR. Bettini's had a few too many
> > crashes this year, some quite recently, so I doubt he'll be as fit as he needs to be.
> > Pozzato had a nice win last year and already one good win this year, so he could be a
> > good choice. There just aren't that many guys who can still power out a good sprint at
> > the end of a 296km race. So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
>
> You guys are all a bunch of Dumbasses -
>
> Boonen
Gee, you're really going out on a limb with that one.
If you give me some odds, I'll take Haedo in a mass sprint.
Booooooneeeennnnnnn! would sound too much like
Goooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllll!!! and that's old.
Haaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Eeeeeeeedooooo! sounds vaguely samurai-ish
and would be far more fun for viewer and announcer alike.
R
RBR Phonetically Chosen Betting Specialist, 1st Class
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 09:40:31
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 21, 10:44 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
> there's not much reason to think this year will be any different. Boonen seems like an
> obvious choice, but I think he's probably aiming to win Paris - Roubaix again, so I
> doubt he'll put out that last bit of effort to win M-SR. Bettini's had a few too many
> crashes this year, some quite recently, so I doubt he'll be as fit as he needs to be.
> Pozzato had a nice win last year and already one good win this year, so he could be a
> good choice. There just aren't that many guys who can still power out a good sprint at
> the end of a 296km race. So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
You guys are all a bunch of Dumbasses -
Boonen
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 16:13:59
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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Howard Kveck wrote:
> Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
> there's not much reason to think this year will be any different. Boonen seems like an
> obvious choice, but I think he's probably aiming to win Paris - Roubaix again, so I
> doubt he'll put out that last bit of effort to win M-SR. Bettini's had a few too many
> crashes this year, some quite recently, so I doubt he'll be as fit as he needs to be.
> Pozzato had a nice win last year and already one good win this year, so he could be a
> good choice. There just aren't that many guys who can still power out a good sprint at
> the end of a 296km race. So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
O'Grady
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 19:54:28
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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Donald Munro wrote:
>
> O'Grady
>
>
Me too.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 19:07:10
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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Is Unibet in? Then Baden Cooke.
If not, one of the fast Lampre guys -- Bennatti or Ballan.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 07:13:43
From: need more sun
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 3:06 pm, JH <j...@jh.com > wrote:
> shane wrote:
> > Di Luca
>
> ...is not racing according to cn.
I'll pip for Freire too.. he's going well..
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 06:55:15
From: shane
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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I remember reading that the course was going to be changed to address
the mass sprints issue, but dont remember which year they were going
to do it...
Di Luca
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 16:06:52
From: JH
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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shane wrote:
> Di Luca
...is not racing according to cn.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 06:34:52
From: brian_j_roth@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 1:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-
So I'll say... Oscar Freire.
>
> --
> tanx,
> Howard
Put me down for McEwen
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 01:12:53
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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On 22, 2:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03 the exception),
> there's not much reason to think this year will be any different.
dumbass,
that is not true. tchmil won with a late attack after the poggio
descent and pozzato's win was not technically a bunch sprint. pozzato
was able to sit in, since QS had boonen in the pack and he was
basically the last survivor from the break.
pozzato is pretty canny, as a friend described it, he won het volk by
"wanting to win the least".
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 15:31:54
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: Milan - San Remo '07
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In article <1174551173.279313.13120@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"amit.ghosh@gmail.com" <amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 22, 2:44 am, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > Since it's ended as a bunch sprint since '97 (Bettini's win in '03
the exception),
> > there's not much reason to think this year will be any different.
>
> dumbass,
>
> that is not true. tchmil won with a late attack after the poggio
> descent and pozzato's win was not technically a bunch sprint. pozzato
> was able to sit in, since QS had boonen in the pack and he was
> basically the last survivor from the break.
You're correct, Amit. I forgot that Tchmil had broken away in the last
kilometer for his win and that Pozzato was in a group that had about 8
seconds at the base of the Poggio and he almost got caught right at the
line. That's a great way to win a race like this.
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Howard
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