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Date: 03 Oct 2007 07:51:10
From: Feld
Subject: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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The last four months, Ive been on a bike four times, all in charity events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a stand-up paddleboard. I think Im in pretty good shape. Ill probably be 5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I rode the Tours at 165. http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2007/10/03/sports/othersports/03lance.html&tntemail0=y
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 13:20:07
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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On Oct 5, 7:29 am, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com > wrote: > On Oct 5, 1:56 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> > wrote: > > > Another curious coincidence: you and LANCE are both > > self-absorbed wankers. > > Being the hub of a machine that won 7 consecutive TdF's somehow > doesn't square with "self-absorbed wanker". > > "Personal" dislike skews perception? --D-y C'mon Tom, I've defended LANCE against Laff@me's pathological jealousy many times. I like him as an athlete. I don't dislike him as a person, either (after all, I've never met the guy), other than a couplpe of reported instances of pettiness, big whoop. But by all accounts his Blackberry and press-clipping mania alone would qualify him as a self-absorbed wanker. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure being a self-absorbed wanker helps to win the Tour so many times. It might be a prerequisite. You need a lot of focus on yourself (Anquetil, Hinault, Lemond, even Merckx - Indurain was focused but inwardly so, not outwardly egomaniac). Ullrich may be an easier guy to hang around with but that's one reason he never won the Tour again. My point is that our CV shows a similar amount of self-obsession, almost approaching that of a Masters racer, but hasn't won the Tour even once yet. Ben
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 07:29:08
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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On Oct 5, 1:56 am, "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote: > Another curious coincidence: you and LANCE are both > self-absorbed wankers. Being the hub of a machine that won 7 consecutive TdF's somehow doesn't square with "self-absorbed wanker". "Personal" dislike skews perception? --D-y
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 06:56:28
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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On Oct 3, 10:14 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > Feld wrote: > > "The last four months, I've been on a bike four times, all in charity > > events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a > > stand-up paddleboard. I think I'm in pretty good shape. I'll probably be > > 5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I > > rode the Tours at 165." > > --------------- > Not surprising that he doesn't ride > anymore. A bike was tool that he used > in his occupation to make money. Like > if a Logger retires, he doesn't pick up > a chainsaw and go to the forest to play > with in his retirement. Very surprising > for me to read this, because personally > I've mirrored Lance. I cycled my ass > off in the same time period that Lance > did, and now I rarely ride for fun, only > commuting. But I am running a lot for a > marathon I'm going to do in February/ > 08, and for fun I do lots of kayaking, > just like Lance. Even my weight is > almost in line with Lance, but I'm at > 165 now with the running I've been > doing, but when Lance was doing his > Tours, I weighed 175. Another curious coincidence: you and LANCE are both self-absorbed wankers. Ben
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 19:04:12
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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On Oct 3, 1:14 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <jazzyb...@hotmail.com > wrote: > Very surprising > for me to read this, because personally > I've mirrored Lance. yeah but ... did you get a nut cut off too? date your mom's look- alike?
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 23:26:26
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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derFahrer@gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 3, 1:14 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <jazzyb...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> Very surprising >> for me to read this, because personally >> I've mirrored Lance. > > yeah but ... did you get a nut cut off too? date your mom's look- > alike? > But he DID cut his Mom's look-alikes nut off.
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Date: 03 Oct 2007 10:14:38
From: Crescentius Vespasianus
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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Feld wrote: > The last four months, Ive been on a bike four times, all in charity > events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a > stand-up paddleboard. I think Im in pretty good shape. Ill probably be > 5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I > rode the Tours at 165. --------------- Not surprising that he doesn't ride anymore. A bike was tool that he used in his occupation to make money. Like if a Logger retires, he doesn't pick up a chainsaw and go to the forest to play with in his retirement. Very surprising for me to read this, because personally I've mirrored Lance. I cycled my ass off in the same time period that Lance did, and now I rarely ride for fun, only commuting. But I am running a lot for a marathon I'm going to do in February/ 08, and for fun I do lots of kayaking, just like Lance. Even my weight is almost in line with Lance, but I'm at 165 now with the running I've been doing, but when Lance was doing his Tours, I weighed 175.
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 06:44:36
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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"Crescentius Vespasianus" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:13g9g121epdps0a@corp.supernews.com... > because personally I've mirrored Lance. I cycled my ass off in the same > time period that Lance did, and now I rarely ride for fun, only commuting. > But I am running a lot for a marathon I'm going to do in February/ 08, and > for fun I do lots of kayaking, just like Lance. Even my weight is almost > in line with Lance, but I'm at 165 now with the running I've been doing, > but when Lance was doing his Tours, I weighed 175. HAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA!!!
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 03:28:55
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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In article <Cb6dnVmIm5vTA57anZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com >, Feld <bafeld22@hotmail.com > wrote: > ³The last four months, Iıve been on a bike four times, all in charity > events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a > stand-up paddleboard. I think Iım in pretty good shape. Iıll probably be > 5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I > rode the Tours at 165.² > > http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2007/10/03/sports/others > ports/03lance.html&tntemail0=y Anyone else shocked he's only 15 pounds over his Tour weight? I mean, from what I know, he didn't even keep his Tour weight during the off-season; 175 would have been a not-unreasonable weight for Lance in October. -- Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 04 Oct 2007 23:24:00
From: MagillaGorilla
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: > In article <Cb6dnVmIm5vTA57anZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@comcast.com>, > Feld <bafeld22@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>³The last four months, Iıve been on a bike four times, all in charity >>events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a >>stand-up paddleboard. I think Iım in pretty good shape. Iıll probably be >>5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I >>rode the Tours at 165.² >> >>http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2007/10/03/sports/others >>ports/03lance.html&tntemail0=y > > > Anyone else shocked he's only 15 pounds over his Tour weight? > > I mean, from what I know, he didn't even keep his Tour weight during the > off-season; 175 would have been a not-unreasonable weight for Lance in > October. > You people in here...when it comes to issues of weight...you are obsessed like a bunch of women at a Weight Watcher's convention waiting in line to get your frozen dinner signed by Kirstie Alley. Magilla
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 10:30:58
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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MagillaGorilla wrote: > You people in here...when it comes to issues of weight...you are > obsessed like a bunch of women at a Weight Watcher's convention waiting > in line to get your frozen dinner signed by Kirstie Alley. Dumbass, We prefer having our pizza boxes signed by Michael Moore.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 06:01:48
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:4705f64a$0$24924$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com... > MagillaGorilla wrote: >> You people in here...when it comes to issues of weight...you are >> obsessed like a bunch of women at a Weight Watcher's convention waiting >> in line to get your frozen dinner signed by Kirstie Alley. > > We prefer having our pizza boxes signed by Michael Moore. I'm absolutely convinced that you certainly do.
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 10:41:48
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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Donald Munro wrote: > MagillaGorilla wrote: >> in line to get your frozen dinner signed by Kirstie Alley. > > We prefer having our pizza boxes signed by Michael Moore. Not Johan Museeuw, who we happened to meet during a training ride? -- E. Dronkert
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Date: 05 Oct 2007 11:14:52
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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>> MagillaGorilla wrote: >>> in line to get your frozen dinner signed by Kirstie Alley. Donald Munro wrote: >> We prefer having our pizza boxes signed by Michael Moore. Ewoud Dronkert wrote: > Not Johan Museeuw, who we happened to meet during a training ride? The Germans will probably ban you from entering Stuttgart. Speaking of which: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/oct07/oct04news2 has Ullrich "ended up as one of the last finishers". Seems you've got a chance to hang Jan's sprinting scalp next to Boogerd if you take a trip to Germany.
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Date: 03 Oct 2007 22:59:13
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: NYT: Armstrong Off the Bike/On the Marathon Again
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message news:rcousine-6A581F.20285803102007@news.telus.net... >> ³The last four months, Iıve been on a bike four times, all in charity >> events. But I run daily or go to the gym and go in a kayak or on a >> stand-up paddleboard. I think Iım in pretty good shape. Iıll probably be >> 5 pounds lighter for the [NY] marathon this year, 175 rather than 180. I >> rode the Tours at 165.² >> >> http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2007/10/03/sports/others >> ports/03lance.html&tntemail0=y > > Anyone else shocked he's only 15 pounds over his Tour weight? > > I mean, from what I know, he didn't even keep his Tour weight during the > off-season; 175 would have been a not-unreasonable weight for Lance in > October. I'd say maybe 5-6 lbs over his target weight in the "off season", as long as you don't get off the bike completely for more than a week or so. And I doubt those guys did, except to play beach volleyball and grab-ass while on holiday in Curacao or Aruba.
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