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Date: 10 Aug 2007 21:47:08
From: samson
Subject: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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That would be kind of a bummer.
S.
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 18:44:04
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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the other from usa were doped, so it's just sad and disgusting.
Trollin', trollin', trollin'...... seems like you bring this up in
every discussion, no matter what the topic.
Smokey
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 18:03:05
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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In article
<1186969444.568006.140700@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com >
,
Smokey <smokeystrodtman@hotmail.com > wrote:
> the other from usa were doped, so it's just sad and disgusting.
>
> Trollin', trollin', trollin'......
Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep them trawlers movin'
Rawhide!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope, and throw, and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide.
I've got their measure
They won't have any leisure
There's room on the shed for their hide.
CHORUS
Move 'em on, head 'em up
Head 'em up, move 'em on
Move 'em on, head 'em up
Rawhide
Count 'em out, ride 'em in,
Ride 'em in, count 'em out,
Count 'em out, ride 'em in
Rawhide!
--
Michael Press
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 18:47:43
From: test
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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"samson" <noone@noone.net > a écrit dans le message de news:
MPG.2126df239845ad599897ef@news-server.wi.rr.com...
> That would be kind of a bummer.
>
we don't care, it's not a big deal, we loved so much greg lemond because he
was clean and different, and the first american to win the tour, after him
the other from usa were doped, so it's just sad and disgusting
I like this video of Greg, it's seem an old age, and all the guy seems to
ride a little slow than now, but this day greg enter in the legeng.
Armstrong didn't do that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZY9287pYZM&NR=1
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 09:31:48
From: Scott
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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On Aug 11, 10:16 am, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@REMOVEsbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>
> > A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They don't
> > have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards tend to
> > get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French). They're
> > sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did very well!
>
> Well, if ASO does not settle with the UCI then the Pro-Tour won't be
> a factor.
>
> Wildcards for non-French teams happen based on spring results.
> Slipstream would have to show the colors at a classic or two to
> get in.
>
> Bob Schwartz
Nah,... they'll get in based on their super strong anti-doping stance.
Scott
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 15:41:34
From: Ro
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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samson <noone@noone.net > wrote:
>That would be kind of a bummer.
>
>S.
Why would it be a bummer??
No loss to the americans as far as i can see.
Let the frogs shit in their own nest as much s they like.
IMO
Ro
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Date: 10 Aug 2007 20:18:55
From: Carmine Clamenza
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
"samson" <noone@noone.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.2126df239845ad599897ef@news-server.wi.rr.com...
> That would be kind of a bummer.
>
> S.
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Date: 10 Aug 2007 22:24:34
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They don't
have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards tend to
get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French). They're
sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did very well!
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"Carmine Clamenza" <carmineclamenza@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:PU9vi.141$2Q5.94@newsfe03.lga...
> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>
>
> "samson" <noone@noone.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2126df239845ad599897ef@news-server.wi.rr.com...
>> That would be kind of a bummer.
>>
>> S.
>
>
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 12:00:33
From: Frank Drackman
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote in message
news:qKbvi.169$Qd6.24@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>
> A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They
> don't have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards
> tend to get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French).
> They're sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did
> very well!
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I bet
that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure future
viewers and revenue.
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 13:31:01
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Frank Drackman wrote:
>
> Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I bet
> that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure future
> viewers and revenue.
I'd rather see Eurosport America
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 23:32:00
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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>> Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I
>> bet that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure
>> future viewers and revenue.
>
> I'd rather see Eurosport America
You prefer David Duffield to Phil Liggett? Plus Eurosport has no equivalent
to Paul Sherwin (hope I'm not butchering the spellings) who's actually the
sharpest of any of them, in my opinion. Hearing him in person, you'd think
he's too smart to have been a bike racer.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 06:24:48
From: Steve McGinty
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:32:00 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<mikej1@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
>>> Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I
>>> bet that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure
>>> future viewers and revenue.
>>
>> I'd rather see Eurosport America
>
>You prefer David Duffield to Phil Liggett? Plus Eurosport has no equivalent
>to Paul Sherwin (hope I'm not butchering the spellings) who's actually the
>sharpest of any of them, in my opinion. Hearing him in person, you'd think
>he's too smart to have been a bike racer.
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
British Eurosport's A-team is now the excellent David Harmon with Sean
Kelly. DH is doing a great job in getting much more out of Kelly, who
seems more relaxed than when he was with Duffers.
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 08:00:07
From: Bob Martin
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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in 553208 20070819 072448 Steve McGinty <steve_dot_mcginty@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:32:00 -0700, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
><mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I
>>>> bet that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure
>>>> future viewers and revenue.
>>>
>>> I'd rather see Eurosport America
>>
>>You prefer David Duffield to Phil Liggett? Plus Eurosport has no equivalent
>>to Paul Sherwin (hope I'm not butchering the spellings) who's actually the
>>sharpest of any of them, in my opinion. Hearing him in person, you'd think
>>he's too smart to have been a bike racer.
>>
>>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>>
>British Eurosport's A-team is now the excellent David Harmon with Sean
>Kelly. DH is doing a great job in getting much more out of Kelly, who
>seems more relaxed than when he was with Duffers.
I don't think DH is a patch on DD.
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 16:31:47
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Steve McGinty wrote:
>>British Eurosport's A-team is now the excellent David Harmon with Sean
>>Kelly. DH is doing a great job in getting much more out of Kelly, who
>>seems more relaxed than when he was with Duffers.
Bob Martin wrote:
> I don't think DH is a patch on DD.
Depends where he puts the patch.
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Date: 14 Aug 2007 12:10:54
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> Doesn't Versus's broadcasting contract with the TDF expire in 2008? I
>>> bet that ASO would be excited to promote an USA based team to help secure
>>> future viewers and revenue.
>> I'd rather see Eurosport America
>
> You prefer David Duffield to Phil Liggett? Plus Eurosport has no equivalent
> to Paul Sherwin (hope I'm not butchering the spellings) who's actually the
> sharpest of any of them, in my opinion. Hearing him in person, you'd think
> he's too smart to have been a bike racer.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
It's Sherwen (you got Phil's name right) and yes he's got some
interesting comments from time to time - but I was referring to the
higher level of commitment to cycling that Eurosport would have over
OLN/Versus. More races, longer coverage, more live broadcasts,
interviews with riders and directors that might not speak English,
racing in the news, et c.
What did we get for Vuelta coverage last year - one hour on the Sunday
after the final stage?
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 11:16:54
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>
> A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They don't
> have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards tend to
> get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French). They're
> sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did very well!
Well, if ASO does not settle with the UCI then the Pro-Tour won't be
a factor.
Wildcards for non-French teams happen based on spring results.
Slipstream would have to show the colors at a classic or two to
get in.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 12:48:14
From: test
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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when the victory isn't romantic it doesn't count at all.
"Bob Schwartz" <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > a écrit dans le message de
news: Xhlvi.540$i75.338@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>>
>> A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They
>> don't have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards
>> tend to get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the
>> French). They're sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those
>> guys did very well!
>
> Well, if ASO does not settle with the UCI then the Pro-Tour won't be
> a factor.
>
> Wildcards for non-French teams happen based on spring results.
> Slipstream would have to show the colors at a classic or two to
> get in.
>
> Bob Schwartz
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Date: 12 Aug 2007 08:05:50
From: mal
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Like that date drug?
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Date: 13 Aug 2007 01:15:24
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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"mal" <malcolm1009@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:XO2dnYfi2vw6aiPbnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@comcast.com...
> Like that date drug?
Touché! The French ideal romance.
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 18:08:45
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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In article <Xhlvi.540$i75.338@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net >,
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote:
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> >> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
> >
> > A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They
> > don't
> > have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards tend to
> > get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French). They're
> > sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did very well!
>
> Well, if ASO does not settle with the UCI then the Pro-Tour won't be
> a factor.
>
> Wildcards for non-French teams happen based on spring results.
> Slipstream would have to show the colors at a classic or two to
> get in.
I'd say doing well at an ASO-run classic would be particularly helpful to their
cause.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:09:56
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Uhhh... what about Slipstream presented by Chipolte?
>
> A bit of a stretch at the moment (for them to be in the '08 TdF). They don't
> have an automatic (sorta) entry via the Pro-Tour, and the wildcards tend to
> get used up by the euro teams (especially, of course, the French). They're
> sure not going to take the place of Barloworld... those guys did very well!
They will take Astana's spot though.
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:59:50
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: No American team in the Tdf 2008?
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"Dan Gregory" <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > wrote in message
news:5i5n83F3ned7lU1@mid.individual.net...
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> They will take Astana's spot though.
Not until they gain enough backing to bribe themselves a Protour membership.
You don't think that Unibet and the like got their licenses from doing well
at the races?
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