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Date: 09 Jul 2007 10:46:54
From: Brian Lafferty
Subject: Not Just Cycling
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http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 08:25:57
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Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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On Jul 9, 7:58 am, billb <wrbma...@msn.com > wrote:
> On Jul 9, 6:46 am, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote:
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> >http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
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> "Them too" is really lame and will never make anyone see cycling as
> relatively clean vis other sports. Further, the other sports cited are
> seen as having a skill component not attributed to cycling, which is
> seen as a pure fitness pursuit (drug-enhanced or otherwise).
>
> Barry Bonds doped but he still needed to have the hand/eye
> coordination to put the bat on the ball.
>
> Best,
> Bill Black
Except that there are also claims that HGH improves vision. As far as
getting the bat on the ball, Bonds is just outside of the all time top
200.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 16:42:41
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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> Except that there are also claims that HGH improves vision. As far as
> getting the bat on the ball, Bonds is just outside of the all time top
> 200.
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How do you judge "putting the bat on the ball"? 1 - strike-outs / at-bats? I doubt he's top anything meaningful in that metric.
Anyway:
http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_5.html
Dan
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 06:10:41
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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On Jul 9, 9:05 am, Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com >
wrote:
> billb <wrbma...@msn.com> writes:
> > On Jul 9, 6:46 am, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
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> > "Them too" is really lame and will never make anyone see cycling as
> > relatively clean vis other sports. Further, the other sports cited are
> > seen as having a skill component not attributed to cycling, which is
> > seen as a pure fitness pursuit (drug-enhanced or otherwise).
>
> > Barry Bonds doped but he still needed to have the hand/eye
> > coordination to put the bat on the ball.
>
> I agree entirely
>
> It takes absolutely no skill not possessed by a newborn infant to
> participate in a bike race at a reasonably high level
Especially when they're rolling downhill without even pedaling.
R
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 04:58:02
From: billb
Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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On Jul 9, 6:46 am, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com > wrote:
> http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
"Them too" is really lame and will never make anyone see cycling as
relatively clean vis other sports. Further, the other sports cited are
seen as having a skill component not attributed to cycling, which is
seen as a pure fitness pursuit (drug-enhanced or otherwise).
Barry Bonds doped but he still needed to have the hand/eye
coordination to put the bat on the ball.
Best,
Bill Black
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 15:24:11
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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in message <1183982282.935904.325520@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >, billb
('wrbmaine@msn.com') wrote:
> On Jul 9, 6:46 am, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
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> "Them too" is really lame and will never make anyone see cycling as
> relatively clean vis other sports. Further, the other sports cited are
> seen as having a skill component not attributed to cycling, which is
> seen as a pure fitness pursuit (drug-enhanced or otherwise).
Seen by whom? No-one who knows anything about bike racing thinks of it as
a 'pure fitness' sport. It's all about tactics. How did David Millar get
the spotty jersey yesterday? By his team getting him to the front at
exactly the right moment to take second place on the last climb. How did
Robbie McEwan win the stage yesterday? Fundamentally, by persuading all
the other sprint teams that he was out of contention.
Chess on wheels does demand a high level of fitness - if you aren't fit you
don't get to play. But you can be the fittest man in the peloton, and
you'll still win nothing but ITTs if you don't have a good team and a very
high degree of tactical insight. And you won't even win ITTs when there
are people like Cancellara about - fit, powerful, great bike handler, and
cunning as a fox.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; Our modern industrial economy takes a mountain covered with trees,
;; lakes, running streams and transforms it into a mountain of junk,
;; garbage, slime pits, and debris. -- Edward Abbey
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 15:05:30
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Not Just Cycling
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billb <wrbmaine@msn.com > writes:
> On Jul 9, 6:46 am, Brian Lafferty <blaffe...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2007/story/0,,2121797,00.html
>
> "Them too" is really lame and will never make anyone see cycling as
> relatively clean vis other sports. Further, the other sports cited are
> seen as having a skill component not attributed to cycling, which is
> seen as a pure fitness pursuit (drug-enhanced or otherwise).
>
> Barry Bonds doped but he still needed to have the hand/eye
> coordination to put the bat on the ball.
>
I agree entirely
It takes absolutely no skill not possessed by a newborn infant to
participate in a bike race at a reasonably high level
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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