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Date: 27 May 2007 14:50:28
From: Sandy
Subject: Orange jersey disease
Forces them to suck wheels until a GPM line.
Panaria, Eus/Eus - disgusting.
I almost changed my mind. After a Tinkoff guy pulled for about 5 minutes, a
Panaria rider took over - for 3 pedal strokes.
I'm amazed the bunch lets them off so easily.
--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR






 
Date: 27 May 2007 16:21:22
From: shane
Subject: Re: Orange jersey disease
Thanks Ryan,

Being in the pro tour means that you have to race in all of the pro
tour events. This
is supposed to be one of the benefits of being in the pro tour,
although It hasnt helped unibet.
The bad part is that since certain sponsors may have more national
interests, they will send a lesser squad to a race outside their
country, particularly in the case when pro tour events overlap. So in
the case of Euskaltel, they had to ride both the Giro and Volta a
Catalunya, so its obvious where their focus would be. Just like most
Italian teams wouldnt send their A squad to the Vuelta...

Of course there are exceptions to this rule, like the Tour de France,
big classics..




On May 27, 5:18 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <mPSdnYkllM68R8TbnZ2dnUVZ_rTin...@comcast.com>,
>
> Mark <remove.mandmlj.t...@remove.comcast.this.net> wrote:
> > shane wrote:
> > > Panaria is a wild card team (doing pretty well in this Giro though) so
> > > thats probably why
> > > they arent being being put to task.
>
> > > Euskaltel is a pro tour team, but barely, theyve barely had any
> > > results, and theyre only
> > > riding the Giro cos they are forced to,
>
> > How do you force someone to ride a grand tour? Get Didi Senft to chase
> > 'em with a pitchfork? Or are you saying the Basque country is even more
> > repressive than the former Eastern Bloc?
>
> > Mark J.
>
> It's part of their being-a-ProTour-team deal. But they have no
> expectations for any results. So they're phoning it in.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos




 
Date: 27 May 2007 08:38:00
From: shane
Subject: Re: Orange jersey disease
Panaria is a wild card team (doing pretty well in this Giro though) so
thats probably why
they arent being being put to task.

Euskaltel is a pro tour team, but barely, theyve barely had any
results, and theyre only
riding the Giro cos they are forced to, so I think they
are allowed to get away with it as well...


On May 27, 8:50 am, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr > wrote:
> Forces them to suck wheels until a GPM line.
> Panaria, Eus/Eus - disgusting.
> I almost changed my mind. After a Tinkoff guy pulled for about 5 minutes, a
> Panaria rider took over - for 3 pedal strokes.
> I'm amazed the bunch lets them off so easily.
> --
> Bonne route !
>
> Sandy
> Verneuil-sur-Seine FR




  
Date: 27 May 2007 12:21:04
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Orange jersey disease
shane wrote:
> Panaria is a wild card team (doing pretty well in this Giro though) so
> thats probably why
> they arent being being put to task.
>
> Euskaltel is a pro tour team, but barely, theyve barely had any
> results, and theyre only
> riding the Giro cos they are forced to,

How do you force someone to ride a grand tour? Get Didi Senft to chase
'em with a pitchfork? Or are you saying the Basque country is even more
repressive than the former Eastern Bloc?

Mark J.


   
Date: 27 May 2007 21:18:15
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Orange jersey disease
In article <mPSdnYkllM68R8TbnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@comcast.com >,
Mark <remove.mandmlj.this@remove.comcast.this.net > wrote:

> shane wrote:
> > Panaria is a wild card team (doing pretty well in this Giro though) so
> > thats probably why
> > they arent being being put to task.
> >
> > Euskaltel is a pro tour team, but barely, theyve barely had any
> > results, and theyre only
> > riding the Giro cos they are forced to,
>
> How do you force someone to ride a grand tour? Get Didi Senft to chase
> 'em with a pitchfork? Or are you saying the Basque country is even more
> repressive than the former Eastern Bloc?
>
> Mark J.

It's part of their being-a-ProTour-team deal. But they have no
expectations for any results. So they're phoning it in.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos