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Date: 26 Jan 2007 13:59:42
From: ilan
Subject: Paris bike shops, the revenge

Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt. I asked my
wife to come along so that I wouldn't lose my cool before I could try
on the shoes, and I gave her instructions to prevent me from telling
them after that I was going to order them online, so that I could
return to the shop is a similar need arose. Well, it worked great, and
I now know exactly which size will fit me. My wife told me that the
owner wasn't that annoying but just plain retarded. This was confirmed
by his statement that Shimano road shoes are no good because they don't
allow you to use standard cleats (isn't it about 5 years since they
switched to Look spacing and since Armstrong used them to win the
Tour?). In case anyone still thinks I did something immoral, my wife
pointed out to me absolute proof that this is a totally unacceptable
shop that merits contempt: there is a sign near the entrance that
states that inflating tires is free for people who bought their bicycle
at the shop but 1.50 Euros (1.94 $US) for everyone else.

-ilan

Date: 26 Jan 2007 18:02:16
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

On Jan 26, 3:11 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 26, 4:59 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
> > all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
> > horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
> > carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
> > try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
> > previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt.dumbass,
>
> this reminds me of how as a disgruntled undergrad i peed in the physics
> students lounge.

Dumbass -

Nice one.

I did a similar thing once in high school. This redneck was always
trying to be a bully to everyone. One day when he wasn't at school, I
peed into his locker, surely inundating his gym clothes at the bottom.
The next day he wore them with no complaint. Everyone was laughing at
him and he didn't know why.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Date: 27 Jan 2007 01:30:04
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

In article <1169848782.316837.74280@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
> all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
> horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
> carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
> try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
> previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt. I asked my
> wife to come along so that I wouldn't lose my cool before I could try
> on the shoes, and I gave her instructions to prevent me from telling
> them after that I was going to order them online, so that I could
> return to the shop is a similar need arose. Well, it worked great, and
> I now know exactly which size will fit me. My wife told me that the
> owner wasn't that annoying but just plain retarded. This was confirmed
> by his statement that Shimano road shoes are no good because they don't
> allow you to use standard cleats (isn't it about 5 years since they
> switched to Look spacing and since Armstrong used them to win the
> Tour?).

The only Shimano cleat I can think of this applying to is the
essentially-defunct SPD-R design, which used two bolts in a North-South
line on the shoe.

This was preceded by Look-compatible road pedals (the notorious "Lance"
models) and succeeded by the SPD-SL, which is compatible with the Look
bolt pattern. They may have discontinued Look-compatible road shoes in
the brief SPD-R interregnum, but those days are as long gone as the days
of the Time 4-bolt pattern.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Date: 27 Jan 2007 11:24:59
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> the essentially-defunct SPD-R design

Except on the track. And on my shoes, because the still function fine.

--
E. Dronkert

Date: 27 Jan 2007 20:29:22
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

In article <45bb2882$0$334$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > the essentially-defunct SPD-R design
>
> Except on the track. And on my shoes, because the still function fine.

Fair enough. I had forgotten about the trackie thing, too.

But of course, none of this affects in the least the curious case of the
ignorant bike vendor.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Date: 26 Jan 2007 16:18:10
From: TomYoung
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

Date: 26 Jan 2007 15:11:13
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

On Jan 26, 4:59 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
> all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
> horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
> carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
> try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
> previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt.

dumbass,

this reminds me of how as a disgruntled undergrad i peed in the physics
students lounge.

Date: 26 Jan 2007 14:49:54
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

> Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
> all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
> horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
> carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
> try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
> previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt. I asked my
> wife to come along so that I wouldn't lose my cool before I could try
> on the shoes, and I gave her instructions to prevent me from telling
> them after that I was going to order them online, so that I could
> return to the shop is a similar need arose. Well, it worked great, and
> I now know exactly which size will fit me. My wife told me that the
> owner wasn't that annoying but just plain retarded. This was confirmed
> by his statement that Shimano road shoes are no good because they don't
> allow you to use standard cleats (isn't it about 5 years since they
> switched to Look spacing and since Armstrong used them to win the
> Tour?).

No matter how badly things go at that shop, it's still inexcusable, in my
humble opinion (as a bike shop owner, of course) to waste someone's time
trying things on, getting advice about something, whatever, knowing full
well ahead of time that you're not going to buy from them, no matter what.
Darwin should take care of the shop in time; situational ethics (excusing
your own bad things because they're bad) isn't called for.

No matter what.

> In case anyone still thinks I did something immoral, my wife
> pointed out to me absolute proof that this is a totally unacceptable
> shop that merits contempt: there is a sign near the entrance that
> states that inflating tires is free for people who bought their bicycle
> at the shop but 1.50 Euros (1.94 $US) for everyone else.

OMG. Maybe Darwin doesn't know Paris exists??? Yikes! I didn't think there
was *anything* you could say that would budge me from my prior position. But
this is really, really, really close. : >)

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Date: 26 Jan 2007 23:57:02
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

In article
<kAvuh.1462$4H1.699@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net >,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote:

> > Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
> > all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
> > horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
> > carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
> > try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
> > previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt. I asked my
> > wife to come along so that I wouldn't lose my cool before I could try
> > on the shoes, and I gave her instructions to prevent me from telling
> > them after that I was going to order them online, so that I could
> > return to the shop is a similar need arose. Well, it worked great, and
> > I now know exactly which size will fit me. My wife told me that the
> > owner wasn't that annoying but just plain retarded. This was confirmed
> > by his statement that Shimano road shoes are no good because they don't
> > allow you to use standard cleats (isn't it about 5 years since they
> > switched to Look spacing and since Armstrong used them to win the
> > Tour?).
>
> No matter how badly things go at that shop, it's still inexcusable, in my
> humble opinion (as a bike shop owner, of course) to waste someone's time
> trying things on, getting advice about something, whatever, knowing full
> well ahead of time that you're not going to buy from them, no matter what.
> Darwin should take care of the shop in time; situational ethics (excusing
> your own bad things because they're bad) isn't called for.
>
> No matter what.

This _is_ your Darwinism.

> > In case anyone still thinks I did something immoral, my wife
> > pointed out to me absolute proof that this is a totally unacceptable
> > shop that merits contempt: there is a sign near the entrance that
> > states that inflating tires is free for people who bought their bicycle
> > at the shop but 1.50 Euros (1.94 $US) for everyone else.
>
> OMG. Maybe Darwin doesn't know Paris exists??? Yikes! I didn't think there
> was *anything* you could say that would budge me from my prior position. But
> this is really, really, really close. :>)

--
Michael Press

Date: 26 Jan 2007 17:59:57
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Paris bike shops, the revenge

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:49:54 -0800, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
<MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote:

>> Well, it turns out horrible bike stores have a positive purpose after
>> all. I did a search and discovered that only Cycle Laurent, the most
>> horrible bike shop in Paris, was the only reasonably close bike shop
>> carrying the shoes I was interested in, so I decided to go there and
>> try them out, so I could later order them via internet. The abuse I
>> previously suffered there would relieve me of all guilt. I asked my
>> wife to come along so that I wouldn't lose my cool before I could try
>> on the shoes, and I gave her instructions to prevent me from telling
>> them after that I was going to order them online, so that I could
>> return to the shop is a similar need arose. Well, it worked great, and
>> I now know exactly which size will fit me. My wife told me that the
>> owner wasn't that annoying but just plain retarded. This was confirmed
>> by his statement that Shimano road shoes are no good because they don't
>> allow you to use standard cleats (isn't it about 5 years since they
>> switched to Look spacing and since Armstrong used them to win the
>> Tour?).
>
>No matter how badly things go at that shop, it's still inexcusable, in my
>humble opinion (as a bike shop owner, of course) to waste someone's time
>trying things on, getting advice about something, whatever, knowing full
>well ahead of time that you're not going to buy from them, no matter what.
>Darwin should take care of the shop in time; situational ethics (excusing
>your own bad things because they're bad) isn't called for.
>
>No matter what.
>
>> In case anyone still thinks I did something immoral, my wife
>> pointed out to me absolute proof that this is a totally unacceptable
>> shop that merits contempt: there is a sign near the entrance that
>> states that inflating tires is free for people who bought their bicycle
>> at the shop but 1.50 Euros (1.94 $US) for everyone else.
>
>OMG. Maybe Darwin doesn't know Paris exists??? Yikes! I didn't think there
>was *anything* you could say that would budge me from my prior position. But
>this is really, really, really close. :>)

Thanks for the laughs guys. Ilan, your wife sounds st, which
doesn't surprise.
--
JT
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